His fathers genes were messed up allowing his father to time travel and his fathers offspring also had this. He would time travel into the past by focusing on specific events of his childhood. He would then travel through while suffering some sort of extreme brain reconstruction / hemmoraging of the part of his brain that contained memories. This is at least how I remember it although I could be wrong.
His fathers genes were messed up allowing his father to time travel and his fathers offspring also had this. He would time travel into the past by focusing on specific events of his childhood. He would then travel through while suffering some sort of extreme brain reconstruction / hemmoraging of the part of his brain that contained memories. This is at least how I remember it although I could be wrong.
I saw the theatrical version first and the director's cut second. The director's cut is crap. Is it even possible for a fetus to have memory or even understand the concept of suicide?
I found it a good movie to watch. It was a bit different than other psychological thriller scenarios and kept my attention till the end. I loved the extras too about the "Chaos theory" and the "time travel"
Does Netflix have a different version of the disc? Since a store bought copy has both versions, you just flip the disc over, why wouldn't the rental have the same thing?
You know what should have happened, he should have gone all the way back to when he was a fetus, and the clash of all that knowledge in an undeveloped brain should have caused him to die.
Fingolfin269
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Director's Cut > Theatrical
The theatrical ending was your typical Hollywood ending. It would be like changing the ending to Donnie Darko in order to make simple minded people happy.
The theatrical ending was your typical Hollywood ending. It would be like changing the ending to Donnie Darko in order to make simple minded people happy.
HardcoreRobot
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do you guys actually think he was time travelling the whole time? i was under the assumption that it really was all in his head. there are complications regarding the butterfly effect and how the things he changes only affects himself and the few core people around him, when in reality changing actions in the past could have HUGE consequences.
Another thing, did anyone notice that in all the different time periods he (or his mom) drives the SAME car in the same condition it was shown when he was a little boy. Either this is a directorial oversight or another clue that he is just piecing these realities together in his mind (and having to reuse the same props/people). Hegets into trouble when something goes wrong in his false reality and his mind tries to escape that too.
Eventually the only way his mind can stay at peace is to kick the girl out of it.
This does not really gel with the DC ending, which suggests that he can kill himself to end it all. I didnt watch this version, so I dont know if there is any way my theory can fit.
Another thing, did anyone notice that in all the different time periods he (or his mom) drives the SAME car in the same condition it was shown when he was a little boy. Either this is a directorial oversight or another clue that he is just piecing these realities together in his mind (and having to reuse the same props/people). Hegets into trouble when something goes wrong in his false reality and his mind tries to escape that too.
Eventually the only way his mind can stay at peace is to kick the girl out of it.
This does not really gel with the DC ending, which suggests that he can kill himself to end it all. I didnt watch this version, so I dont know if there is any way my theory can fit.
Are you saying he saw his entire life and 10 different versions of it as an 8 year old boy and then told the girl that he doesn't like her as a result? that doesn't make sense.
See, it has to go through a normal timeline. His 'pre-timetravel' timeline has blackouts. Blackouts that he can't remember or understand. They don't even seem to be logical and at the time no one can understand them. But as the timeline continues and he learns about the time travel ability that has plagued his father, he fills these black outs with the necessary events that must occur. In the end, he destroys the entire time line that includes black outs by destroying the singular event that led to them starting.
But in the theatrical ending, you are left realizing that he will still be plagued with his fathers problem. The second something goes really wrong in his life, he is going to re-innitiate the blackouts.
HardcoreRobot
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Yes, I am saying that he was institutionalized at a young age and proceeded to slip into lifelong false realities to try to cope. I dont see how this makes any less sense than TIME TRAVELING! Especially time traveling with such PREDICTABLE results. He goes back to fix something, which he does, but also breaks something else at the same time. The reality of it is, his changing something in the past could alter the entire future - not just the clothes/attitudes of his core group of friends and family.
Fingolfin269
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Here's a scientific theory for you. No director would trust Ashton Kutcher to pull off something so confusing.
Lol. I just think if he was institutionalized at a young age, he would create whole realities (ie: minus the unexplainable blackouts). Plus it would be somewhat anti-climactic. Another one of those "suprise it was all a dream" type movies.
Real time travel makes it more 'fun' as a movie...
Yea exactly, I think the changes that were present in the movie were somewhat logical. In one life he became an extremely smart student, in another he was a frat boy. In one his mother was on her death bed. I mean, I thought they showed rather decent cause and affect, some of which was to the extent of irrational (the brother being a convict / the mother on her death bed). In back 2 the future he almost macked on his mom, obviously that would have had some pretty freaking adverse affects to the present.
clamum
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Just watched the Director's Cut last night and I liked it better than the theatrical version. Harsh ending, the guy ends up killing himself just before she gives birth! Good movie, although the girl's brother's dialogue when he was a kid was kind of dumb (his swearing seemed stupid/forced). There's a few things that didn't make sense but overall it was an enjoyable movie although the ending was pretty sad.
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Just finished watching the movie, I really liked it. I saw whatever version it is where he tells her he hates her and they end up not knowing each other.
Here's a question, I'm thinking maybe I just don't have my head around this part of it yet...it seemed throughout whenever he'd go back and change something, when he came out of it there were times when he was getting brain scans. And it seemed that everytime it was getting worse, regardless of whether his life was better or not. Am I right in assuming that once he decides to pick the final "life" to live, his brain is in really bad shape? Or was that only when he'd come back and have some serious issues in his own life?
Here's a question, I'm thinking maybe I just don't have my head around this part of it yet...it seemed throughout whenever he'd go back and change something, when he came out of it there were times when he was getting brain scans. And it seemed that everytime it was getting worse, regardless of whether his life was better or not. Am I right in assuming that once he decides to pick the final "life" to live, his brain is in really bad shape? Or was that only when he'd come back and have some serious issues in his own life?
clamum
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I think the reason the brain scans were getting progressively worse was because he went back and changed things, his brain filled in all the memories from that period on, in a matter of seconds. That's why his nose would bleed and the scans showed damage to his brain.
Don't forget the 2 other alternate endings... a total of 4 endings on the DVD.
It's under infinifilm > All Access Pass > Infinifilm Features > Deleted / Alternate Scenes
Not much but they are different
It's under infinifilm > All Access Pass > Infinifilm Features > Deleted / Alternate Scenes
Not much but they are different
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