The Buck stops at Obama's desk.

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monovillage

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So two weeks ago Romney has a good night and Obama a bad one and conservatives are just full of glee while liberals are head-shaking and blaming the president for his crap performance.

When Obama has a good night and Romney falls short... oh the wailing about unfairness and the gnashing of teeth.

Next Monday is going to be entertaining if this continues.

Did you forget all the lefties complaining about Lehrer ? Even after Lehrer gave the president more time then Romney ?
 

jackstar7

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Did you forget all the lefties complaining about Lehrer ? Even after Lehrer gave the president more time then Romney ?

They were complaining because he was a terrible moderator, not because he was somehow screwing over the president. The president screwed himself in the first debate.

So yeah... not the same thing.
 

Todd33

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Lehrer just didn't do his job, mainly time management. Spending 15 minutes on one question, he was a push over.
 

peonyu

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I'm confused about the Libya hang up on the right, is that all they have? Some guy bum rushed a building and killed a few people and somehow Obama is to blame. Or was it how he referenced it? Why does that matter? I thought the election was all about jobs? You don't really want Mitt to talk about foreign policy do you? He screws that up at every chance.


Somebody screwed up with Libya, maybe it wasn't Obama but jesus christ they had hardly any security at that embassy at all. Who is the moron who thought it would be a good idea to have almost no security in a war torn-allahakbar-fanatical muslim nation ? Whoever it was I doubt it was Obama who personally made the decision, but ultimately he is the top boss of the US military so the ball stops at his foot.

Also our Egyptian embassy personal were given guns but denied ammo...Who is the idiot making those decisions ?
 
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umbrella39

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They were complaining because he was a terrible moderator, not because he was somehow screwing over the president. The president screwed himself in the first debate.

So yeah... not the same thing.

I don't even know why you guys bother replying to this stuck on fucktard shills posts any more... They reek of intellectually dishonest bullshit parroting... Hit rewind and play if you want to hear what he has to offer.
 
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Todd33

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Somebody screwed up with Libya, maybe it wasn't Obama but jesus christ they had hardly any security at that embassy at all. Who is the moron who thought it would be a good idea to have almost no security in a war torn-allahakbar-fanatical muslim nation ? Whoever it was I doubt it was Obama who personally made the decision, but ultimately he is the top boss of the US military so the ball stops at his foot.

Also our Egyptian embassy personal were given guns but denied ammo...Who is the idiot making those decisions ?

To your fist point, hindsight is 20/20. Shit happens, making it a political point during an election is just reaching for straws. It won't work.

Your second point is just wrong.

The Ambassador did not impose restrictions on weapons or weapons status on the Marine Corps Embassy Security Group (MCESG) detachment. The MCESG Marines in Cairo were allowed to have live ammunition in their weapons. The Ambassador and Regional Security Officer have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. Reports of Marin

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/egypt-embassy-marines-live-ammo
 

Screech

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Somebody screwed up with Libya, maybe it wasn't Obama but jesus christ they had hardly any security at that embassy at all. Who is the moron who thought it would be a good idea to have almost no security in a war torn-allahakbar-fanatical muslim nation ? Whoever it was I doubt it was Obama who personally made the decision, but ultimately he is the top boss of the US military so the ball stops at his foot.

Also our Egyptian embassy personal were given guns but denied ammo...Who is the idiot making those decisions ?

technicality but it wasn't an embassy in libya that was attacked -- it was a consulate.

As I posted elsewhere I still think this "attack" on Obama is full of fail. Here's why:

9/11 -- attack kills thousands of americans causing party A, in office at the time, to use that to argue for their own reelection against party B for about eight years.

9/11 -- attack kills 4 americans causing party A, not in office at the time, to use that to argue for their election to replace party B.

Yeah......uh, no.
 

peonyu

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To your fist point, hindsight is 20/20. Shit happens, making it a political point during an election is just reaching for straws. It won't work.

Your second point is just wrong.


Hindsight would be 20/20 if our embassy [or consulate] in the UK was attacked, thats understandable since the odds of that happening are next to nil.

The issue here is incompetence, jaws dropped when it was uncovered we had hardly any security at that consulate. Its incompetence, muslim nations do not like the USA and they also tend to have large numbers of extremists [as we have seen], and sure enough that building came under attack [shocking..not].

If Obama wants to take the blame then so be it, but he is also admitting he is incompetent by doing so. A 10 year old would know better than to staff a building over there with US personal and little security. Its a face palm moment all around.
 

NoStateofMind

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Todd33

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A 10 year old would know better than to staff a building over there with US personal and little security. Its a face palm moment all around.

Then I expect everyone outside the administration to have documents pointing out this elementary fact. You yourself must have wrote your congressman more than once, it was so obvious.

We have people and property all over the world, you expect the President to be responsible for all of it all the time. Funny stuff. More politicizing, nothing of substance here. Move along.

I guess the same folks feigning outrage were blaming Bush for 9/11. Come on he got a brief called "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US", where was the airport security?! Those guys got on the plane with box cutters!
 

werepossum

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Somebody screwed up with Libya, maybe it wasn't Obama but jesus christ they had hardly any security at that embassy at all. Who is the moron who thought it would be a good idea to have almost no security in a war torn-allahakbar-fanatical muslim nation ? Whoever it was I doubt it was Obama who personally made the decision, but ultimately he is the top boss of the US military so the ball stops at his foot.

Also our Egyptian embassy personal were given guns but denied ammo...Who is the idiot making those decisions ?
Your first point is spot-on; it's simply insane to have nothing but a few hired locals in a nation that has just experienced an Islamic revolution. Or ANY Muslim country.

I suspect your second point is an urban myth and at most they were not allowed to load - although I'm laughing my ass off at those "proving" that point with the Mother Jones rag. Who knows more about the military and foreign policy than a bunch of commie stoners, right?
 

shortylickens

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Romney's got a plan. He's all about jobs and small business. Yeah, right. Jobs in foreign lands and selling small businesses to the highest bidder. He ACTUALLY tried to say he was magically going to get businesses to offer flexible hours to women who had lives outside of their jobs. I'll take lies about third world piss ant countries over lies about jobs and Americans any day.

And this right here folks, is why America fails.

Way too many people honestly believe its better to have one lying bum over another.