BoberFett
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No, sadly. Regardless of political party or ideology, the only people who run for public office are those you don't want there.
Sometimes I think we'd be better off if we simply drafted people into office. A totally random lottery with the option to decline. If they accept then they serve a single term and get a decent salary for life. Then ban all other forms of income or gifts so they can't be paid off.
BoberFett
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And the link I offered does the same. Look at all that money flowing to the Democrats. If you choose to believe that you and your team are above propaganda then you're an idiot.
First
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This is funny coming from a loser, who is continually played. No but seriously Boober, sucking off the gov't teet via unemployment while simultaneously pimping libertarian ideology? The ironing is too thick.
Both parties spend a lot of money on elections, no doubt. Repubs generally outspend Dems, too. But that's not the point. A very few extremely wealthy and reactionary people fund the message machine of the Right in a way not even approached in progressive circles.
It's why repubs have that famous discipline and solidarity. The current crop of repub congress critters have been groomed and winnowed out of a much broader field by how well they can spout the party line, how well they'll accept party discipline and ideology, the latter coming directly from their think tanks. First you have to sing in the choir before you become a soloist, and the choir is always there, backing you up.
Figure it out. Who pays for the creation of the pitch and the framing you've bought into so fervently? How is it that Righties all seem to jump on the same bandwagon at the same time, and how that bandwagon can shift directions so seamlessly with no stragglers?
And the way it's done, of course, is through both ownership and manipulation of the media. Anybody who followed the whole Terry Schiavo circus should be able to recognize that- the story made the nightly national news for months.
Contrast that with Democrats, whose level of organization and message shaping is truly pitiful in comparison. Why? because they don't put nearly as much money into it.
BoberFett
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How is that double dip looking? And I'm talking about the economy you perv, not you going back for seconds on LegendKillers man-gravy.
IndyColtsFan
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MotF, let me go ahead and save Craig the trouble and berate you for him:
"It is your centrist bias that causes you to have this incorrect view of my position."
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nick1985
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Also, MotF, you need to start reading Rachel Maddow links from MSNBC like Craig to become "enlightened" like him.
IndyColtsFan
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I walked by a guy's desk yesterday and saw a Paul Krugman book and immediately thought of Craig since it is in his sig.
nick1985
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IndyColtsFan
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Hmmm, you might have a point -- I HAVE always wondered about this particular guy. Craig, are you a java programmer by chance?
bamacre
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I'm truly shocked that he would own a small business. I thought he was a janitor for the RIAA.
IndyColtsFan
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Ah yes, his carefully chosen, rarely used, totally not an insult judgment... that gets passed on everyone who disagrees with him!
Rich people using their vast wealth to influence American politics. What an astonishing revelation.
It's also been recently discovered that the sky is blue.
It's also been recently discovered that the sky is blue.
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Quite good since we're nowhere near a double dip, but thanks for asking this weird question.
EDIT: Haha, just saw that you've been bumping my double dip comment in that thread. rofl, you know nothing's happened and nothing could possibly happen to prove that since I made it right, and you're only going to look stupid when I bump that shit when you're wrong. But who we kidding, one way or the other you aren't gonna make a prediction since you bitch out every chance you get.
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I think they should be able to push their agenda as much as they want, just as you are free to push yours. If their ideas have merit, people will agree with them. I don't see anyone joining the Tea Party (or any other) at gunpoint, so what's the problem? Let me know when coercion is going on. Otherwise, you're just complaining that stupid people are influenced by ideologists, which is hardly anything new or limited to libertarians.
Lemon law
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Colleges, Universities, and media are staffed by people of all political views. But to make it to the top in any of those endeavors take a combination of intellect and creativity in another field quite separate from politics.
And when most of the top people in those fields tend to be mostly left wing as a sideline, it somewhat says, smart and creative people on the cutting edge of society and technology are left wing because they realize its the correct choice for good governance.
As Non Prof John then admits, the only way the right wingers can compete is to artificially fund stink tanks to try to compete with phony ideas. Mass marketing of stupidity which the R's are somewhat good at.
Worse yet, when the radical right of the GOP finally had all three branches of government in the period between 2001-2007, and the R's could finally put those stink tank ideas into action, we got so many poison pills of bad governance that a complete economic collapse of the economy was inevitable.
And now fast forward towards to 11/2010, and non Prof John's stink tanks still have not learned where they went wrong nor have they come up with a single good idea.
Thump553
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The reporter who wrote this article was interviewed on NPR earlier today. She said she had also done an article on George Seros where she likewise criticized him. One significant difference between Seros and the brothers is that Seros had a transparent organization, freely admitted what he spent his money on and sat down with her for several days to answer all her questions. The brothers, on the other hand, treat their contributions and political efforts as top secret and refused to answer any and all questions, basically a bunker mentality in my view.
BTW the brothers own the second largest private company in the US, which owns, among other things, Georgia Pacific. No more Brawny paper towels or other GP products for me, thank you-I have no desire to help fund their secretive manipulations.
BTW the brothers own the second largest private company in the US, which owns, among other things, Georgia Pacific. No more Brawny paper towels or other GP products for me, thank you-I have no desire to help fund their secretive manipulations.
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