"The Blue States are losers states"

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Mai72

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if they bringing their liberal ideas with them,its not.

"they bringing?"

It's not about liberal ideas. When the people from the blue states start migrating south the cost of living will go up. They start demanding better schools, which is good but it puts a lot of strain on the infrastructure. Teachers start demanding more pay. In turn, the police and firemen start demanding more pay. Property taxes increase.

I work in a special needs schools. It's very expensive to take care of children who can't make it in a public educational setting. Administrators make $150k-250k a year. Teachers in my school make $80k a year.

Oh, when more people start migrating south the roads will need more maintenance. That's expensive. Then the wealthy start eyeing up those sweet rural areas in states like Texas, Mississippi and Arkansas. Money talks. The poor are forced to move while the rich buy up all that sweet sweet land. You see... We in the North East are just like locust.
 

nageov3t

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seems like you're cherry-picking to use growth as the metric and not base income.

the richer areas in the country (ie: blue states for the most part) have less room for growth than a state where the median income might be $30k/year.

it's a lot easier to get 50% growth from $30k to $45k than $100k to $150k.
 
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BonzaiDuck

Lifer
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All of this is a wasted effort.

Clearly there is a cabal attempting to establish a one world government (in actuality a corpocracy or being implemented via corpocracy). (In fact, it is openly stated.)

The public in general, if it would actually stop to look & think, would understand it under such names as New World Order & Agenda 2030.

The major precepts of the initiatives are not mysterious & are quite delineated and includes:

- One world government
- Sustainability (population reduction & consolidation , control of food production, etc.)
- Climate control

The spin that it takes involves all these wars, shift to a surveillance civilization, shift to a purely digital currency, planetary aerosol praying, massive regulation, consolidation of population into cities (particularly high rises), transition to a robotic/AI work force, etc.

It has a Marxist/Orwellian look & feel..

If the transition seems to be being thwarted by Trump, then it is merely a pause of the inexorable.

I generally tend to look at Marx from two sides. "Capital" was simply a scholarly discussion of history to explain a theory of class struggle. It was intended as a response to Adam Smith's "Wealth of Nations." 50 years before Marx published the tome, Madison mentioned the phenomenon in Federalist Papers. Other historians pointed to it in their histories of the ancients.

The disaster of Marx was the Manifesto. Oddly, Marx despised labor unions. Who else does that?

As for Orwell, it appears that some aspects of his 1984 "newspeak" apply in our so-called mixed economy with pluralistic media, but particularly I point the flashlight on Breitbart-Bannon and Humpty-Trumpty. Or you could trace it back to WMDs in Iraq and a terrorist under every American bed.

The latest fairy-tale I heard today was his assessment about the AF-1 contract. $2.9 billion over the next 4 years and a current contract of $175 million suddenly blossoms into Donnie-boy's fast and furious "Truth" of $4 billion.

The real truth can be found in how defense contracts have been either re-arranged or strong-armed depending on the man (is he, now?) in the White House, his political orientation, whether existing contracts are in Red or Blue states. Boeing also has a lot of business with China, and Washington is a very Blue state.

Now about "the Fooo-cher." Look for writings or video-taped presentations by a man named Kaplan who had been an editor at Atlantic Monthly. The term he applied to an emergence of mega-cities was "high-tech capitalistic feudalism." He predicted cyber-warfare between the megalopolises, but we're seeing cyber-warfare between nation-states at the moment. However, his positive* vision of the future seems to emerge from our rural-urban political demography. [* Positive as in "positive" versus "normative." Positive is an observation of simply the way things are or might be without an ideal; Normative is a statement of an ideal for how things should be.]
 

Mai72

Lifer
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You can also move to countries like Thailand and live like a king.

Just watch out for the ladyboys. :)
 

Jhhnn

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You can also move to countries like Thailand and live like a king.

Just watch out for the ladyboys. :)

In which case you're offshoring your income, obviously. That'll create jobs, I'm sure.
 

HamburgerBoy

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Ah, Thatcher. The same lady that sold out public infrastructure to private corporations.

And when it comes to money running out, it's not socialism's fault. That's due to the peddling of trickle-down economics propaganda. Tax the people, give some back, and the rest to the rich. The rich keep their money, whilst the people are taxed again.

Rinse and repeat, and suddenly there's no money for the populace, so socialism cannot function, as the rich were given all the welfare.

Bloated government never leads to efficiency problems or runaway spending. It is always sustainable as long as you tax the rich enough. Illinois just needs to raise taxes a bit more. Everyone knows this.