Fingolfin269
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Oh, I definately agree. I just wonder how our opinions of certain people might change if we saw them on TV every day. People like Moore and Franken in particular.
Oh, I definately agree. I just wonder how our opinions of certain people might change if we saw them on TV every day. People like Moore and Franken in particular.
I do not think that O'Reily is doing anything different than say Dan Rather. All news show take what they want out of an interview and then pick and choose and carefully edit it to make their point of view. If you think otherwise you are very naive.
Naive? Yup Ive heard Dan rather interupt, yell, scream, b!tch, moan, and cut off people everyday. I mean it was funny the other day when Rather screamed at his Whitehouse corespondent to "Shut Up, Shut up" over and over.
Rather is a journalist, O'reily is an actor, and a bad one
The no spin zone is pure spin. He had Bernie Ward on first and last time too. Showed a clip of the WMD debate where it said there was no evidence of WMD, no ties between Iraq and Al Quaeda, but some tenuous connections. Ward thought, hey maybe this guy does shoot straight. O'Reily stopped the show and had the part about no connection edited out then proceeded to talk to Ward. He got going about being a no spin zone and Ward pointed to how he had just edited reality to edit out facts that contradicted his view. That part of the Ward interview was also edited out of what got broadcasts. O'Reily is a fraud.
Don Vito Corleone
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This is why I take issue with O'Reilly. I think he's intellectually dishonest, in that he purports to be unbiased, although he clearly isn't. David Cole's piece is a perfect example of O'Reilly's version of a "no-spin zone." If this were untrue, I'd expect O'Reilly would sue for defamation, but my gut tells me we will never see that happen.
Not to mention, DonVito, that Fox News has got memos leaked or discovered that show them to be nothing but a propaganda organ for the Bush Reich.
kylebisme
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i am admitting nothing of the sort. however, it seems that you are adminting that you have an uninformed and irrational hatered for Moore, eh? well, you probably don't realise you admint it; but if you actually take the time to find out the quote from Moore as well as the question it was a responce too and when it took place, you will see how absolutely absurd you comment is.
Fingolfin269
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Did the guy say it was okay to pirate SOME thing? How could I say its okay if you pirate my friend's cd but it's not okay for you to pirate my own?
Even if he flat out said, 'You have my permission to pirate my movie' it still wouldn't make it okay because he only speaks for himself and not for the studio or the distribution company or the theaters, etc.
Moore's statement was about his books/movies/etc. in general. He didn't care if someone downloaded the movie or shared a DVD. He sees it as sharing. That covers Fahrenheit 9/11.
kylebisme
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not true, conjur. it was in responce to a question about people downloading bowling for columbine and he said:
so he obviously isnt telling people to rip his future films like Farenheit 9/11 from the theater, and he isn't suggesting that people should download his work and add it to their personal connection; but, unlike the coperations and the copy right laws they push, he isn't against file shareing.
so he obviously isnt telling people to rip his future films like Farenheit 9/11 from the theater, and he isn't suggesting that people should download his work and add it to their personal connection; but, unlike the coperations and the copy right laws they push, he isn't against file shareing.
0roo0roo
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yup, it was his work that revealed the lies of oreily. funniest one of course the one where oreily keeps claiming awards he did not win
and then when caught, doesn't apologize, just keeps lying that booktv vid is great.. course its all in frankens book too. franken might be like the right in that he sticks to his guns with blinders on, but atleast he's ussually fighting with facts.Your quote is a modification of what he said.
For example, the part of your quote:
He really said:
That's directly from his video interview.
kylebisme
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ah sure enough, here is a torrent of the clip: http://66.90.75.92/suprnova//torrents/2055/Michael%20Moore%20About%20Filesharing-avi.torrent
i suppose i should have known better than to take the quote from some right wing propaganda site, but it was the most compleate version (although obviously not intierly correct) of the quote i could find. regardless, my point was that he did not advocate people ripping his movie from theaters and distributing it over the net, but he doesn't have anything agaisnt file sharing in its most benign sense.
i suppose i should have known better than to take the quote from some right wing propaganda site, but it was the most compleate version (although obviously not intierly correct) of the quote i could find. regardless, my point was that he did not advocate people ripping his movie from theaters and distributing it over the net, but he doesn't have anything agaisnt file sharing in its most benign sense.
I'll give you that last point but I still reserve the right to slap you upside the head with a dead fish for relying on a right-wing site for an accurate quote of Michael Moore.
kylebisme
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well it was like looking for a needle in a haystack, check this out:
606 results for the propagandized "made this film because I want the world, to change"
4 results for the correct "make these books and movies and TV shows because I"
rather a sad state of affairs, eh?
606 results for the propagandized "made this film because I want the world, to change"
4 results for the correct "make these books and movies and TV shows because I"
rather a sad state of affairs, eh?
Michael Moore quote
Insert into Republican propaganda generator......
Output propaganda suggestions:
1. Blame Clinton. (this is hard coded as #1)
2. New quote: "While a member of the Director's Guild of America, I invented file sharing."
Insert into Republican propaganda generator......
Output propaganda suggestions:
1. Blame Clinton. (this is hard coded as #1)
2. New quote: "While a member of the Director's Guild of America, I invented file sharing."
decriminlization of marajana, ending the death penalty, and being compleatly oposed to amnisty for illegal imagrents are just three of the major points that prove this theory wrong.
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