The Big Bang blows atheism sky high

[WelshBloke]

Ever work at a rest home and see people point, raise their arms and claim they see their relatives?

Dementia. How does that work?

 

[lxskllr]

Dementia. How does that work?

A miracle! Praise Alzheimers!

 

[Ichinisan]

Derp! Derp! Ramble ramble. DERP!

 

[Dresdenboy]

A miracle! Praise Alzheimers!

This was a case of confirmation bias.

 

[sdifox]

True there have been many atrocities in the name of what is called the lord our savior. I mean look at witchcraft and the Spanish inquisition. This doesn't change the overall core belief in intelligent design. People will always have a meager little brain that constantly needs developed.

Get with it or turn to dust I say. Like I said. I have read and seen many things that support what I believe to be intelligent design. No damn secular is going to change my mind. I simply refuse to live life going down the wrong path to nothing but a dead end when I see intelligent design everyday.

Perhaps when you and everyone else gets older. Perhaps when you are in the rest home. Who knows.

Ever work at a rest home and see people point, raise their arms and claim they see their relatives? I have. And I visit a rest home often. My mom works there.

Seeing dead relatives doesn't even fit the Christian faith dummy. You are only supposed to see them after you die or the Rupture. Assuming they were good.

 

[zinfamous]

For a guy that flaunts his..."command" of history, he really should investigate the history of the pledge of allegiance.

It might upset him, but then the consideration of challenging one's baseless assumptions and doing the work to get there will keep JC in his little bubble.

For a guy that is terrified of the government in his head and in his pants, he sure has an alarming dedication to big government programs like the pledge of allegiance.

sad--the one who fears the government the most is also the one who is weakest to its influence.

The problem, JC, is that your binary thinking has interpreted this "Attack" against the pledge as one against your religion. That is only a teeny tiny kernel of the issue. But, again, you should do your own research and please show your work. I'll get you started: Why does someone like you defend something that requires you to pledge your unfettered allegiance to a system that you make no secret of distrusting and even hating?

 

[Jeff7]

Except bacteria from meteorites found in the antarctic.

You mean this one?

So far, it looks like it's inconclusive. They look like bacteria we know and love, though much smaller.
But people also see rabbits in clouds.

 

[soulcougher73]

You better go back and study history. The people that came here, came here to escape religious prosecution to worship as they pleased. And believe me, they weren't even like the Mennonites you see today. Far, far worse.

Think you just answered your own question. "worship as they please", not "worship as I see fit".. Which is what they were fleeing from.

 

[soulcougher73]

True there have been many atrocities in the name of what is called the lord our savior. I mean look at witchcraft and the Spanish inquisition. This doesn't change the overall core belief in intelligent design. People will always have a meager little brain that constantly needs developed.

Get with it or turn to dust I say. Like I said. I have read and seen many things that support what I believe to be intelligent design. No damn secular is going to change my mind. I simply refuse to live life going down the wrong path to nothing but a dead end when I see intelligent design everyday.

Perhaps when you and everyone else gets older. Perhaps when you are in the rest home. Who knows.

Ever work at a rest home and see people point, raise their arms and claim they see their relatives? I have. And I visit a rest home often. My mom works there.

You can follow whatever path you want, just keep your religion to yourself and church.

 

[Ruptga]

You better go back and study history. The people that came here, came here to escape religious prosecution to worship as they pleased. And believe me, they weren't even like the Mennonites you see today. Far, far worse.

Because the founding fathers were also Puritans that came over on the Mayflower. Yeah, that's a thing that actually happened. The Deism ruse was a distraction, so they could set up a mighty Puritan country without attracting the attention of a liberal conspiracy. Otherwise the liberals would have gotten wind and overthrown our legitimate government using foreign aid and military advisors in a long insurgency. Aren't you glad our founders didn't let that happen?

Fucking dementia, how does it work?

ftfy

 

[Schmide]

It's no wonder why so many foreigners like Obama. I mean after all, Obama attended a church with a Quasi-pastor Jeremiah Wright.

Nutter and a racist!!!

 

[IronWing]

You better go back and study history. The people that came here, came here to escape religious prosecution to worship as they pleased. And believe me, they weren't even like the Mennonites you see today. Far, far worse.

If you are talking about the Pilgrims, they came here to set up a puritanical theocracy after getting their obnoxious, regicidal asses thrown out of every respectable nation in Europe. Not that there's anything wrong with regicide but the Pilgrims were major dicks about everything. "Hurray, we're free to do as we please! Let's hang us some witches!"

 

[sandorski]

If you are talking about the Pilgrims, they came here to set up a puritanical theocracy after getting their obnoxious, regicidal asses thrown out of every respectable nation in Europe. Not that there's anything wrong with regicide but the Pilgrims were major dicks about everything. "Hurray, we're free to do as we please! Let's hang us some witches!"

The Natives probably should have let them starve. Their Pagan beliefs were not that way though.

 

[skyking]

The Natives probably should have let them starve. Their Pagan beliefs were not that way though.

Apparently some of that special "only found in the bible" morality ran ahead of the pilgrims and got to the natives, somehow. Only possible explanation.

 

[John Connor]

If you are talking about the Pilgrims, they came here to set up a puritanical theocracy after getting their obnoxious, regicidal asses thrown out of every respectable nation in Europe. Not that there's anything wrong with regicide but the Pilgrims were major dicks about everything. "Hurray, we're free to do as we please! Let's hang us some witches!"

Did I not just get done saying they were worse than Mennonites? And I could have sworn I mentioned witches and the Spanish inquisition.

Please make sure you read my posts, stop, think and then post a prudent comment.

 

[darkswordsman17]

you'll never convince binary thinkers otherwise. 2 paths = Gawd or Hell/sin.

This kind of argument works well among the indoctrinated. It's simple and effective. Anything that requires more thinking = hell.

I think you're actually giving them too much credit, they're not even binary, as you see they think they are on the correct path. You actually hit it right on the head, they actually can't even fathom what's beyond their own paths, as they're simply not capable of actual thought on that level and so they just dismiss it and justify doing so in their usual ways. No matter what horrible shit they think and do, they are still righteous just because they believe in God. There is only one path in their minds and they are on it.

This isn't true of all Christians/religious people, its just certain ones, that I think pretty much everyone has had experience with and can be seen very clearly in the OP and some other posters on here.

And also you can tell the intellectual dishonesty in their arguments. Notice how everything is a "culture war" now? Yet they're the peaceful ones and its Muslims and atheists that are the warmongers? Nevermind the millenia of them literally waging wars and committing atrocities in their lord's name.

 

[zinfamous]

I think you're actually giving them too much credit, they're not even binary, as you see they think they are on the correct path. You actually hit it right on the head, they actually can't even fathom what's beyond their own paths, as they're simply not capable of actual thought on that level and so they just dismiss it and justify doing so in their usual ways. No matter what horrible shit they think and do, they are still righteous just because they believe in God. There is only one path in their minds and they are on it.

This isn't true of all Christians/religious people, its just certain ones, that I think pretty much everyone has had experience with and can be seen very clearly in the OP and some other posters on here.

And also you can tell the intellectual dishonesty in their arguments. Notice how everything is a "culture war" now? Yet they're the peaceful ones and its Muslims and atheists that are the warmongers? Nevermind the millenia of them literally waging wars and committing atrocities in their lord's name.

Because God will forgive me my horrible deeds. It's a seductive and poisonous belief to hold. And I agree that there are some truly good and honorable Christians and religious people out there, but so much of the face today is cuntwagons like Pat Robertson and Robert Tilton and Jerry Falwell and all their spawn doing pure, unabahsed evil and thievery in the name of God. ...and they fucking know it. ...godblessthem, I say, because they have found their niche robbing the gullible (though I'd never defend those like Robertson that commit pure evil in the process--funding the murder of homosexuals and all that).

...at least, I don't have much pity for those so easily swindled. Sucks that some legitimately good people get hosed in this way, but all of the tools are available to learn and challenge oneself in the value of these donations, so there is no one to blame but themselves.

 

[Orvogg]

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/j...-eventually-catch-gods-word?hl=1&noRedirect=1


What's say you? Are you, the atheist so bold to proclaim that you know the writer of all these books?

This is simply a matter of reversed causality. We exist in the only universe that could produce us, the universe does not exist simply to create us. Anyone thinking otherwise grossly overstate the importance of humanity in the grand scheme of things.

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[John Connor]

But of course you're right. But of course I'm wrong. Add some fucking substance noob.


I'm not some "ultra-Christian" or anything. Did no one hear me speak in my YouTube video? All I'm saying is that consider the possibility of intelligent design. I explained already why I feel there is the possibility of intelligent design, even in my video.

Look, there is a rhyme and a reason for everything. Everything has a form of balance. Our ecosystem works together in perfect harmony. This is not randomness or something from nothing. Common sense tells me this. Everything has a purpose. We are here to learn. This is school. What if I learned everything there was to learn, invented everything there was to invent and cured every disease there was to cure? Then what? Eat, sleep, fuck and just live? Even in heaven (if you believe in it) you are learning. I've read you learn faster in this world then the next.

By the time you have reached this sentence your heart will have beat about 60 times coursing through 60,000 miles of arteries, veins, and capillaries. How is this randomness? What or who set the ball rolling?

 

[Ichinisan]

... Our ecosystem works together in perfect harmony. This is not randomness or something from nothing.

"Harmony?"

 

[William Gaatjes]

Because nothing can live in a vacuum.

True, but it has not have to be the case as long when the environment is not a true vacuum. Extremophiles have proven that what seems inhabitable for most lifeforms, is possible when the atoms are a bit re- arranged. But it seems life favors energetic environments. When it comes to really cold. Radiation is needed. When it get really cold and there is no high energy em radiation to power the reactions of the enzymes, it just is not possible. A meteorite in space can be a perfect habitat for microorganisms as long as it is orbiting near a star. And i do remember the cute little tardigrades being able to survive outer space temperatures for a short while. I do wonder if there exist bacteria that can survive outer space. Turning into some kind of microbial cyst or endospore until more a favorable environment is encountered. I read that many life forms exist that once turned into a microbial cyst or endospore, can survive millions of years without water, food and air. As soon as there is a combination of water (or maybe even just hydrogen and oxygen) and radiation, these tiny critters come to life again.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endospore


I do wish that a select group of religious people should stop fearing science and instead embrace it to come closer to God.
It would increase the respect for life and one and other.

 

[John Connor]

"Harmony?"

Yeah, the orderly fashion of things....

 

[William Gaatjes]

Maybe our planet was pollinated with endospores inside the blown away chunks from the several large meteorites that crashed into earth. And that microbial life combined with (microbial) life that already existed here on earth. Could very well be that life on this planet may be older than we think, older than the solar system. Maybe it originated from the solar system around the second generation star that was the birth mother for our sun and solar system. Highly unlikely, that life could form just after when the first generation stars formed. It seems that there was not enough of all the needed elements around to form life. Would be just hydrogen isotopes.

It is all very interesting to wonder about. It is certainly not impossible.

 

[IronWing]

Look, 1 there is a rhyme and a reason for everything. 2 Everything has a form of balance. 3 Our ecosystem works together in perfect harmony. This is not randomness or something from nothing. Common sense tells me this. 4 Everything has a purpose. 5 We are here to learn. This is school. What if I learned everything there was to learn, invented everything there was to invent and cured every disease there was to cure? Then what? Eat, sleep, fuck and just live? Even in heaven (if you believe in it) you are learning. I've read you learn faster in this world then the next.

By the time you have reached this sentence your heart will have beat about 60 times coursing through 60,000 miles of arteries, veins, and capillaries. How is this randomness? What or who set the ball rolling?

Five bald assertions in a single post.

 

[Ichinisan]

Yeah, the orderly fashion of things....

Everything trying to eat each other and compete for resources is "harmony?" It's kinda like the opposite of harmony.