The Bible Code -- Do You Believe??

[Josh]

I was bored last night before going to bed and I saw an odd book laying around titled "The Bible Code" by Michael Drosnin. I read through most of it and couldn't help but wonder if this was the truth; had the Bible actually predicted things that were going to happen in the future? It seemed to have. Describing events to an exact time/location/person. Then today, I went on a search to find if the Bible Code had actually written about one of the biggest events in our nation's history - 9/11. Eerily, it did.

Read the above and below links for some interesting stuff and tell me if you believe or not - could God actually have written about everything that was going to happen on Earth in His book? Scary stuff.

? Scientific proof the Bible Code "exists"
? The many different entries in the Bible Code

 

[edmicman]

i thought nostradamus already predicted everything that was going to happen....at least thats what the papers say in the supermarket line

 

[Gunslinger08]

No.

 

[Gunslinger08]

His nose runs on you.

Oh noes! I might get the aids!

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

His nose runs on you.

Oh noes! I might get the aids!

Hah, you should read some of this stuff before you judge though. It's pretty weird, mathematicians who have no relation to religion, don't support any religion, don't even like religion even say that something is up. You gotta admit it's kinda weird.

 

[Gunslinger08]

It's possible to draw patterns and find what you want to find from anything. I could have predicted the JFK assassination from The Cat in the Hat if I tried hard enough.

 

[Analog]

Maybe the true question would be, what will it predict? Many of these future seeing things are always resolved AFTER the event occurred. Almost as if people will piece together whatever they can to make it fit an event that already happened.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Maybe the true question would be, what will it predict? Many of these future seeing things are always resolved AFTER the event occurred. Almost as if people will piece together whatever they can to make it fit an event that already happened.

My point exactly.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Maybe the true question would be, what will it predict? Many of these future seeing things are always resolved AFTER the event occurred. Almost as if people will piece together whatever they can to make it fit an event that already happened.

Actually, the book that I read last night by Michael Drosnin predicted a few things before they happened. He predicted that a few leaders in Israel would be assassinated and warned them before time to be more wary. He knew the exact day when it would happen as well, it was kind of spooky. I mean yes, coulda been a "rare coincidence" but the Bible Code as Drosnin or whomever read it predicted quite a few other things before they happened.

The way the code is read it's hard to see things before they happen because they have to search for certain words. I mean it's not likely that they were just all of a sudden going to think (example) "I better search for the word plane and world trade center and 9/11". No, they obviously wouldn't of expected that to happen - but after it did it was clearly in the Bible. All about what had happened...

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Maybe the true question would be, what will it predict? Many of these future seeing things are always resolved AFTER the event occurred. Almost as if people will piece together whatever they can to make it fit an event that already happened.

Actually, the book that I read last night by Michael Drosnin predicted a few things before they happened. He predicted that a few leaders in Israel would be assassinated and warned them before time to be more wary. He knew the exact day when it would happen as well, it was kind of spooky. I mean yes, coulda been a "rare coincidence" but the Bible Code as Drosnin or whomever read it predicted quite a few other things before they happened.

Or maybe the people who killed the leaders also read the book?

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Maybe the true question would be, what will it predict? Many of these future seeing things are always resolved AFTER the event occurred. Almost as if people will piece together whatever they can to make it fit an event that already happened.

Actually, the book that I read last night by Michael Drosnin predicted a few things before they happened. He predicted that a few leaders in Israel would be assassinated and warned them before time to be more wary. He knew the exact day when it would happen as well, it was kind of spooky. I mean yes, coulda been a "rare coincidence" but the Bible Code as Drosnin or whomever read it predicted quite a few other things before they happened.

Or maybe the people who killed the leaders also read the book?

You know the book was published after that

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Maybe the true question would be, what will it predict? Many of these future seeing things are always resolved AFTER the event occurred. Almost as if people will piece together whatever they can to make it fit an event that already happened.

Actually, the book that I read last night by Michael Drosnin predicted a few things before they happened. He predicted that a few leaders in Israel would be assassinated and warned them before time to be more wary. He knew the exact day when it would happen as well, it was kind of spooky. I mean yes, coulda been a "rare coincidence" but the Bible Code as Drosnin or whomever read it predicted quite a few other things before they happened.

The way the code is read it's hard to see things before they happen because they have to search for certain words. I mean it's not likely that they were just all of a sudden going to think (example) "I better search for the word plane and world trade center and 9/11". No, they obviously wouldn't of expected that to happen - but after it did it was clearly in the Bible. All about what had happened...

Very true.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Haha, so, he predicted it before it happened, but published it after it happened... hm...

And he warned the people, but they got killed, so the only people who could corroborate his warnings are dead...

I think you know where this is leading.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Haha, so, he predicted it before it happened, but published it after it happened... hm...

And he warned the people, but they got killed, so the only people who could corroborate his warnings are dead...

I think you know where this is leading.

Yes. Right down the tubes with people assuming what they want to believe instead of looking at it objectively. I'm not even going to bother with a rebuttle to your nonsense.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Haha, so, he predicted it before it happened, but published it after it happened... hm...

And he warned the people, but they got killed, so the only people who could corroborate his warnings are dead...

I think you know where this is leading.

No, obviously he wouldn't be able to warn the leaders themselves...that would be like sending a memo to President Bush and hoping he reads it. He sent a warning or whatever you want to call it to the leaders' secretaries and right-hand people and in the book they have corroborated his warnings. Also if I sent a letter to President Bush telling him to "beware the Ides of March" you think he'll give half a crap? No, people look at everything from two-sides and some things you just can't or won't want to believe.

Joshsquall, you should read the book before making points my friend

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Haha, so, he predicted it before it happened, but published it after it happened... hm...

And he warned the people, but they got killed, so the only people who could corroborate his warnings are dead...

I think you know where this is leading.

No, obviously he wouldn't be able to warn the leaders themselves...that would be like sending a memo to President Bush and hoping he reads it. He sent a warning or whatever you want to call it to the leaders' secretaries and right-hand people and in the book they have corroborated his warnings. Also if I sent a letter to President Bush telling him to "beware the Ides of March" you think he'll give half a crap? No, people look at everything from two-sides and some things you just can't or won't want to believe.

Joshsquall, you should read the book before making points my friend

Awesome. Very nicely done.

:beer:

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Haha, so, he predicted it before it happened, but published it after it happened... hm...

And he warned the people, but they got killed, so the only people who could corroborate his warnings are dead...

I think you know where this is leading.

Yes. Right down the tubes with people assuming what they want to believe instead of looking at it objectively. I'm not even going to bother with a rebuttle to your nonsense.

Nonsense? I'm only being logical. In hindsight our vision is perfect. We think we knew things were going to happen after they have already occurred.

True, I don't believe in psychics and prophecies, but I have logical reasons to back it up. Prophecy is intentionally vague when issued beforehand, or is just relayed after the events have already transpired.

To believe in the accuracy and legitimacy of prophecy is to believe in fatalism, which just isn't logical.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
No.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Haha, so, he predicted it before it happened, but published it after it happened... hm...

And he warned the people, but they got killed, so the only people who could corroborate his warnings are dead...

I think you know where this is leading.

No, obviously he wouldn't be able to warn the leaders themselves...that would be like sending a memo to President Bush and hoping he reads it. He sent a warning or whatever you want to call it to the leaders' secretaries and right-hand people and in the book they have corroborated his warnings. Also if I sent a letter to President Bush telling him to "beware the Ides of March" you think he'll give half a crap? No, people look at everything from two-sides and some things you just can't or won't want to believe.

Joshsquall, you should read the book before making points my friend

But then I'd have to dig up the thread in 2 weeks. This is so much more fun.

 

[Josh]

True, I don't believe in psychics and prophecies, but I have logical reasons to back it up. Prophecy is intentionally vague when issued beforehand, or is just relayed after the events have already transpired.

How was it vague when the "prophecy" that was told in the Bible about the assassination of one Israeli leader told the exact date & location - right down to the street - of what would happen?

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: Josh

True, I don't believe in psychics and prophecies, but I have logical reasons to back it up. Prophecy is intentionally vague when issued beforehand, or is just relayed after the events have already transpired.

How was it vague when the "prophecy" that was told in the Bible about the assassination of one Israeli leader told the exact date & location - right down to the street - of what would happen?

Quote?

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: Josh

True, I don't believe in psychics and prophecies, but I have logical reasons to back it up. Prophecy is intentionally vague when issued beforehand, or is just relayed after the events have already transpired.

How was it vague when the "prophecy" that was told in the Bible about the assassination of one Israeli leader told the exact date & location - right down to the street - of what would happen?

Quote?

Right after I take a shower, I'll scan through the book and quote exactly what it says (this why I suggested you get a copy for yourself )

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Josh

True, I don't believe in psychics and prophecies, but I have logical reasons to back it up. Prophecy is intentionally vague when issued beforehand, or is just relayed after the events have already transpired.

How was it vague when the "prophecy" that was told in the Bible about the assassination of one Israeli leader told the exact date & location - right down to the street - of what would happen?

Prophecy is given with the requirement that faith must be used in order to see the prophecy for what it really is instead of coincidence. Some prophecies are vague. Some prophecies are exact. It depends.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Mathematician David Thomas did an ELS on Genesis and found the words "code" and "bogus" close together not once but 60 times.

Ah, this stuff cracks me up.

 

[Gunslinger08]

After reading about 10 pages on this thing from supporters and skeptics, I have even less faith in it. The entire system that the ELS uses is just dumb. It's basically like trying to find any possible connections between any phrases that you want.. the statistics that they come up with are grossly inflated. They also only show up in one specific version of the bible, and only in the book of Genesis.The findings are random, coincidences occur.