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The BEST riddle!

blahblah99

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You are travelling in a deep, dark forest when, suddenly, on a dark, stormy night, you are captured by the kind-but-not-so-bright forest people. They keep looking at you and saying to each other, "It be a smart person!

You are marched to their village and seated in the square. Before you are blindfolded, you notice two other lucky souls seated in chairs facing you. Then you are told that the forest people king is about to die. He previously sent messengers throughout the land seeking the 3 smartest people. You are one, and two others have also been found. He now gives you all a task to see which one is the wisest.
He tells you, "I have seated you in a triangle so that each of you faces the other two. While you are blindfolded I will paint a dot on each of your foreheads. Each dot will be red or green so that there can be any combination of red and green dots, for example, 1 red and 2 greens, or all red, etc. When I remove the blindfolds each of you must raise your hand if you see _any_ green dots, i.e. 1 or 2 dots. As soon as you have figured out what color your own dot is, tell me how you knew."

So he paints a green dot on all three foreheads. When the blindfolds are removed, all three hands go up. After a long pause, the wisest person, (that's you!) say, "Your highness, I have a green dot. The reason I know this is that..."

How did you know?

Extra credit: assume there are 4 people and all have green dots... can our hero figure it out now?

Note: please don't write, "I knew because I saw that two other hands were up!" or "I guessed!," or, "I saw the reflection in their eyes!" or "I recognized the smell of the paint!" or "The other people's eyes were looking at me when they raised their hands" or "3 green dots are the only fair test" or any other such drivel! If any of those kinds of answers were correct, it would be a terrible riddle!
 
Because nobody else said anything therefore they saw two greens as well as yourself. If your paint was red one or the other would be able to deduce theirs was green simply because everybody put their hands up so everybody saw green
 
I think, not sure, but I think it has to do with the explanation of how the chairs were set up. It mentions that the two are seated in chairs facing you, not facing each other or facing between each other. If not, then please fix your post accordingly.
 
Originally posted by: Mnementh
Because nobody else said anything therefore they saw two greens as well as yourself. If your paint was red one or the other would be able to deduce theirs was green simply because everybody put their hands up so everybody saw green
Arrgghh, my brain glanced across than answer but it slipped away. (I could feel it, so annoying) Yeah, makes sense.
 
Originally posted by: yukichigai
I think, not sure, but I think it has to do with the explanation of how the chairs were set up. It mentions that the two are seated in chairs facing you, not facing each other or facing between each other. If not, then please fix your post accordingly.

I think thats it.
 
Originally posted by: yukichigai
I think, not sure, but I think it has to do with the explanation of how the chairs were set up. It mentions that the two are seated in chairs facing you, not facing each other or facing between each other. If not, then please fix your post accordingly.

it doesn't matter as long as you can see both other people.

The pertinent fact is the 2 smartest people in the world + you. You know that smart people would realise that if they saw one red and one green dot but everybody put their hand up that their own dot would be green. So therefore if everybody puts their hands up and you can see two green dots but nobody has said anything then you know your dot must also be green, because if it was red one of the others would have said theirs was green.

Edit: of course the smartest people in the world would also realise this heh so you'd better just be quick or trusting that they are in fact smart enough to realise heh
 
Originally posted by: Mnementh
Originally posted by: yukichigai
I think, not sure, but I think it has to do with the explanation of how the chairs were set up. It mentions that the two are seated in chairs facing you, not facing each other or facing between each other. If not, then please fix your post accordingly.

it doesn't matter as long as you can see both other people.

The pertinent fact is the 2 smartest people in the world + you. You know that smart people would realise that if they saw one red and one green dot but everybody put their hand up that their own dot would be green. So therefore if everybody puts their hands up and you can see two green dots but nobody has said anything then you know your dot must also be green, because if it was red one of the others would have said theirs was green.

correct.

in other words...in the situation where everyone has a green dot (but obviously you don't know your own), then the only way you'll know that you have a green dot is to just know that if there were any red dots, someone would have spoken up immediately (given that they're the smartest in the world).
 
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