THE BEST!!! Deal In Home Audio 5 Speaker Surrounds. Fluance.

[ExplodingBoy]

Expensive cables are a waste of money. It's all a marketing ploy to squeeze more money out of an uninformed public. Standard speaker wire works fine. You will not be able to detect a difference between it and the so-called "high-end" wire. Buy something cheap and spend your extra money on a nice subwoofer.

I'm also planning to buy a set of Fluances but like a previous poster am having trouble deciding between the two models. Prolly go with the more expensive ones... I already have a 12" 150W Audiosource sub that works great.

 

[dpham00]

Originally posted by: dakels
What cables do you folks use? I won't have enough on my older 12 guage reel to wire this so I was thinking of ordering some 12 guage oxygen free shielded cables from cablestogo.com. I haven't tried their speaker cable yet but 12 guage oxygen free shielded cabling at under 90 cents a foot seems great to me. Especially considering I have bought some S-Video and RCA cables off them and was really impressed for the money. I am really liking cablestogo. They have alot of great budget cabling thats awesome to me for the price/performance.

partsexpress has 12 AWG OFC for $.34/ft. really tho, i think the lead wires in these speakers are 16 or 18 AWG, so there's no real point buying a thick gauge with these speakers.

 

[hevnsnt]

money burning a hole in my pocket has been spent.. Thanks!

 

['BARtMAN']

anyone know how these compare to ascend acoustics or NHTs? Fluance is really cheap, I've herd tons of people raving about the ascends, and some for the NHTs... I haven't herd of fluance till I saw this thread pop up in hotdeals...

 

[ScottS]

Well, I'm one step closer to jumping on getting a set of these puppies. I've been wanting to upgrade my stereo system for a while - and I snagged the first part of it today. Picked up a Pioneer 811S open box at Circuit City for $180 - $50 GC. $130 plus tax out of my pocket for a 7.1 channel unit ! Not as good as the $125 Yamaha 5550 I "almost" had - they ran out of stock on that refurb deal at ubid and cancelled my order.
Now to set aside some green for a set of these - I'm leaning toward the SX units. I'll probably round it out with an Acoustic Research 8" or 10" sub. They have gotten pretty good reviews for their price at epinions.com and audioreview.com.
By waiting for good deals to come along, I will probably have cut the cost of a home theater system to less than half what I would have paid in the past, and have a nicer system to boot. You gotta love these forums !

 

[dakels]

Originally posted by: dpham00

Originally posted by: dakels
What cables do you folks use? I won't have enough on my older 12 guage reel to wire this so I was thinking of ordering some 12 guage oxygen free shielded cables from cablestogo.com. I haven't tried their speaker cable yet but 12 guage oxygen free shielded cabling at under 90 cents a foot seems great to me. Especially considering I have bought some S-Video and RCA cables off them and was really impressed for the money. I am really liking cablestogo. They have alot of great budget cabling thats awesome to me for the price/performance.

partsexpress has 12 AWG OFC for $.34/ft. really tho, i think the lead wires in these speakers are 16 or 18 AWG, so there's no real point buying a thick gauge with these speakers.

Agreed like I said in a few PM's with someone:
Its true most cases the premium speaker wire is not at all necesary, almost a gimmick. and I know the wire is probably overkill for my needs but I like to be better safe then sorry. As long as my impedance is better then my speakers ratings, I am good to go. I doubt I'll need great cable with the Fluance speakers but its not the quality (That I probably wont see on those speakers) that interests me, its the shielding. This is going on a computer, so near alot of computer equipment and also around the walls a little. Thats why I wanted heavy shielded cables. I'd like to be safe with the heavy sheilding so I have the option of making 50 foot cables for the rear sats. I'd have to run the wire for those rear sats around the wall. I may also want to run some of these speakers out to a 3rd floor deck. Not sure what I want to do with them.

 

[Scee]

Ahab97: There usually isn't much of a heat issue with the polyfil mod as long and you don't totaly pack the sub, which you shouldn't do anyway.

Any yes, anything more the 12 gauge is probably overkill.

and to whoever was asking... NHT's are known for extreme accuracy (I don't think they sound terribly bright though); if you have cheap gear they will show it much more than Fluance.

 

[AAjax]

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
get JBL'S. Cant beat em

Damn skippy

 

[Ahab97]

Originally posted by: Scee
Ahab97: There usually isn't much of a heat issue with the polyfil mod as long and you don't totaly pack the sub, which you shouldn't do anyway.

OK cool. Thanks for the 411.

 

[dpham00]

Originally posted by: dakels

Originally posted by: dpham00

Originally posted by: dakels
What cables do you folks use? I won't have enough on my older 12 guage reel to wire this so I was thinking of ordering some 12 guage oxygen free shielded cables from cablestogo.com. I haven't tried their speaker cable yet but 12 guage oxygen free shielded cabling at under 90 cents a foot seems great to me. Especially considering I have bought some S-Video and RCA cables off them and was really impressed for the money. I am really liking cablestogo. They have alot of great budget cabling thats awesome to me for the price/performance.

partsexpress has 12 AWG OFC for $.34/ft. really tho, i think the lead wires in these speakers are 16 or 18 AWG, so there's no real point buying a thick gauge with these speakers.

Agreed like I said in a few PM's with someone:
Its true most cases the premium speaker wire is not at all necesary, almost a gimmick. and I know the wire is probably overkill for my needs but I like to be better safe then sorry. As long as my impedance is better then my speakers ratings, I am good to go. I doubt I'll need great cable with the Fluance speakers but its not the quality (That I probably wont see on those speakers) that interests me, its the shielding. This is going on a computer, so near alot of computer equipment and also around the walls a little. Thats why I wanted heavy shielded cables. I'd like to be safe with the heavy sheilding so I have the option of making 50 foot cables for the rear sats. I'd have to run the wire for those rear sats around the wall. I may also want to run some of these speakers out to a 3rd floor deck. Not sure what I want to do with them.

i don't think all speaker cables are designed to go thru walls. the in wall ones usually have a jacket over the wire pair.

 

[XCLAN]

Originally posted by: 'BARtMAN'
anyone know how these compare to ascend acoustics or NHTs? Fluance is really cheap, I've herd tons of people raving about the ascends, and some for the NHTs... I haven't herd of fluance till I saw this thread pop up in hotdeals...

NHTS would be very nice speakers but at a much greater cost.

 

[VudooCrush]

Got my Fluance speakers on Monday, got the reciever today! If you live in an apartment and don't wanna get kicked out, don't buy a sub! I will have to keep these down as it is. Well, here's the deal. I have spent a good chunk of money today just on cable.. I also bought a couple of the ceiling or wall mounts so I can hang the bookshelfs. Right now I've just had the center and the main left and right running.. So far so good. I had everything wired, carefully and neatly put everything back in the entertainment center and no sound.. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I would have thought the cable with the red line on it would go to the red inlet. Nope.. Of course it can't be that simple. Any retard can figure out that red goes into black and vice versa.. rrriiiiggghhttt. ( laugh it up ) . So after spending about an hour thinking it was some stupid setting on my reciever my wife said to change it.. Of course for the first 15 minutes I just ignored her.. ( what do women know right? ) . damn.. she was right. I bought some more cables, they have +'s on them instead of nothing.. this makes more sense. I will add to this hopefully tomorrow night after the rear's are rockin..

-Josh

 

[Thump553]

VudooCrush I don't think switching red and black really solved your problem. You must have solved somehow accidentally, or worse, it is an intermittent problem that will resurface. You were right, red usually does go to red, black to black, but this is a matter of custom. Actually the red and black wires are identical. The important thing is not to hook them up out of phase (one speaker with red going to positive terminal, one with red to negative terminal). That is the whole reason for the color coding.

But even if your speakers are wired up out of phase, they will still work, they just won't sound very good. So I'm mystified at your situation-but I'm still putting my money on something wrong with the receiver-either a setting is wrong (tape monitor circuit engaged? Speaker A switch turned off? Wrong input channel? Wrong speaker setup selection?) or a defect there.

 

[ICXRa]

Originally posted by: dpham00

Originally posted by: dakels

Originally posted by: dpham00

Originally posted by: dakels
What cables do you folks use? I won't have enough on my older 12 guage reel to wire this so I was thinking of ordering some 12 guage oxygen free shielded cables from cablestogo.com. I haven't tried their speaker cable yet but 12 guage oxygen free shielded cabling at under 90 cents a foot seems great to me. Especially considering I have bought some S-Video and RCA cables off them and was really impressed for the money. I am really liking cablestogo. They have alot of great budget cabling thats awesome to me for the price/performance.

partsexpress has 12 AWG OFC for $.34/ft. really tho, i think the lead wires in these speakers are 16 or 18 AWG, so there's no real point buying a thick gauge with these speakers.

Agreed like I said in a few PM's with someone:
Its true most cases the premium speaker wire is not at all necesary, almost a gimmick. and I know the wire is probably overkill for my needs but I like to be better safe then sorry. As long as my impedance is better then my speakers ratings, I am good to go. I doubt I'll need great cable with the Fluance speakers but its not the quality (That I probably wont see on those speakers) that interests me, its the shielding. This is going on a computer, so near alot of computer equipment and also around the walls a little. Thats why I wanted heavy shielded cables. I'd like to be safe with the heavy sheilding so I have the option of making 50 foot cables for the rear sats. I'd have to run the wire for those rear sats around the wall. I may also want to run some of these speakers out to a 3rd floor deck. Not sure what I want to do with them.

i don't think all speaker cables are designed to go thru walls. the in wall ones usually have a jacket over the wire pair.

Yep, this is the cable (only in white) that dakels is referring to though so he should be fine.

 

[ExplodingBoy]

Anyone got a link with more info on the polyfill subwoofer mod? Like detailed instructions ... ;-)

About not getting any sound until you switched the wires ... yeah the other poster is right, when speakers are hooked up out of phase you should still get sound. It will just sound not quite right. I wonder if you had some kind of short that got coincedentally corrected when you switched the wires. Other possibility is that Tape-2 Monitor feature the other poster mentioned. On my receiver if you hit that button the sound gets turned off until you hit it again. I guess it's usefull back in the days of dubbing tapes but nowadays it's just annoying.

 

[ICXRa]

Here are some for the Sony SAWM40.

 

[huesmann]

What exactly is the purpose of filling the sub box with Polyfill?

 

[ICXRa]

To tighten up the bass and make it less boomy.

 

[a2k]

If you're looking for an amazing value in speakers, you should check out Norh. They are a Thai-based company that sells direct over the Internet. They use very high quailty dirvers (Vifa, ScanSpeak) and have beautiful hand-made cabinets that will remind you of B&W's Nautilis.

I've got a 5 channel set-up with a pair of their 5.1's and three 4.0's The system is amazing and the 5.1's running in stereo hold their own against speakers 5x the price. The clarity, detail, and staging are breathtaking. I've never heard Fluance speakers, but I highly recommend you check Norh out as an alternative.

Plus, the company was started by a former Sun Microsystems employee and is now employee owned so you don't have to worry that they get their low prices by mistreating their employees.

-a2k

 

[ICXRa]

Man those are some funky looking speakers.

 

[Ahab97]

do you have your rears mounted on pedestals or something?

I guess I need to learn to think "outside the box"... heh

Edit: WHOA mama! For the 5 speaker setup you described it's $950!

5.1 Video System - 1 pair 5.1, 1 pair 4.0, single 4.0 center 950.00

I'm sure they sound great, but... dang!

 

[a2k]

Originally posted by: Ahab97
do you have your rears mounted on pedestals or something?

I guess I need to learn to think "outside the box"... heh

Edit: WHOA mama! For the 5 speaker setup you described it's $950!

5.1 Video System - 1 pair 5.1, 1 pair 4.0, single 4.0 center 950.00

I'm sure they sound great, but... dang!

People either love the way Norhs look or hate them. The design makes them deeper than most speakers, which does make placing the rears a little tough. The 4.0's are a lot smaller than the 5.1's and sound almost as good. I've never heard anything that sounded anywhere near as good for the price ($400). The 3.0, which people rave about, can be had for $150 a pair.

They often run specials on speakers on the news page of their site.

I really don't know how they compare to Fluance. I do know how they compare to my dad's $2000 Dunlaveys. Very similar, probably because they have the same drivers.

 

[ICXRa]

Originally posted by: a2k

Originally posted by: Ahab97
do you have your rears mounted on pedestals or something?

I guess I need to learn to think "outside the box"... heh

Edit: WHOA mama! For the 5 speaker setup you described it's $950!

5.1 Video System - 1 pair 5.1, 1 pair 4.0, single 4.0 center 950.00

I'm sure they sound great, but... dang!

People either love the way Norhs look or hate them. The design makes them deeper than most speakers, which does make placing the rears a little tough. The 4.0's are a lot smaller than the 5.1's and sound almost as good. I've never heard anything that sounded anywhere near as good for the price ($400). The 3.0, which people rave about, can be had for $150 a pair.

They often run specials on speakers on the news page of their site.

I really don't know how they compare to Fluance. I do know how they compare to my dad's $2000 Dunlaveys. Very similar, probably because they have the same drivers.

If they sound that good then $950 is a really good price for that speaker setup. I have a pair of Bose 501 series III that are way old, early 80's at best that sold for $375 each back then. NO these are not the same speakers most people associate with the "no hi's no lows must be Bose" statement.

 

[dakels]

Originally posted by: Scee
Ahab97: There usually isn't much of a heat issue with the polyfil mod as long and you don't totaly pack the sub, which you shouldn't do anyway.

Any yes, anything more the 12 gauge is probably overkill.

and to whoever was asking... NHT's are known for extreme accuracy (I don't think they sound terribly bright though); if you have cheap gear they will show it much more than Fluance.

I like NHT's. I forget which ones I used to use but I enjoyed the bright sound. Its been a while since I had those, reminds me of my Grado headphones. aaah... what would I do without my grados... If only I could get that clarity of sound in speakers without paying $5,000.

 

[dakels]

BTW I just wanted to add that I am really getting into this low to mid volume but full sound of 5.1 or other surround style speakers. There is something really great about the enveloping sound that surround gives you. I'm all for the advancement of surround recordings. I can't wait till most CDs come recorded and mastered in surround sound so you hear the specific sounds/instruments coming from different zones. I'll take a cheapo set of 5.1's over a more expensive 2 speaker set any day. I find it is also less affected by bad room acoustics too. I used to walk around looking for acoustical sweet spots but with surround you dont need to as much. But I still do know where my acoustical sweet spots are so I can play own instruments in there. Nothing like hearing a good acoustic guitar reverberating in a nice acoustical sweet spot you find.