Linflas
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Gibsons
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The smart play might be to let the other get involved and stay neutral. Maybe quietly support the opposition. If opportunity presents, swoop in late in the game and grab something from a very weakened opponent on whichever side.
Not that I see any of this actually happening.
BoomerD
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I, for one, wouldn't count on India being our allies in a World War, especially if it was against the Muslim nations of the Middle East. IFAIK, they have a fairly large Muslim population themselves, and being surrounded by Muslim nations, I don't think it would be in their best interests to ally with the USA in such an event.
As far as China...the benefit to them to side against the USA would have to greatly over-ride the benefit of having us as their number one customer.
Not only would they likely lose all commerce from the USA for a long time, we might default on all the monies we owe them...spoils of war and all that...
As far as China...the benefit to them to side against the USA would have to greatly over-ride the benefit of having us as their number one customer.
Not only would they likely lose all commerce from the USA for a long time, we might default on all the monies we owe them...spoils of war and all that...
BoomerD
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For quite a while, we weren't at war with the Nazis in Germany, and commerce is commerce...
BUT, here's a bit of info for you to chew on...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
There have been rumors and (squashed) stories for decades about the Republican party's ties in WWII to Nazi Germany. Business is business...right?
I can't think of any country that would want to start a war with US, Maybe North Korea, but obviously would get killed pretty easy. Russia has no strong reasons to go to war actually, probably less than China, since China is still Communist. Iran? Nah, they might train a few terrorists but won't try to go full out. But you can always count on Germany. Lol, just kidding 
What about brazil/Venezuela? No one talks much about those
What about brazil/Venezuela? No one talks much about those
destrekor
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I think this is a fairly accurate portrayal of how things will likely bring about a new World War.
It'll be small players, likely close in proximity to each other, and it'll swell to include far more neighbors, and they'll all bring their own baggage to the fight. The "he said this" and "they did that", where multiple states are essentially holding a bickering match about how to dish out blame and revenge.
And then states outside of the original region of conflict will jump at the chance to settle disputes with other states that are also either near or far from the original zone. Some states will undoubtedly see resources at risk, and those resources will always change with the times; a worldly commodity of some sort, be it real or idolized. And this causes the original pissing match to swell into something that has grown out of control, bringing new strains and problems no contender imagined.
Such is the way it will stay for a long time; when we are a world that is composed entirely of freedom-seeking individual entities, the global geopolitical arena will always look like a contest of power normally found in a highschool locker room.
If Israel invaded Iran I can't see anyone coming to the aid of Iran, so it wouldn't really be a world war.
Linflas
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Here is a bit of info for you to chew on. The post I responded to said:
You reply back with some links to a single bank that was suspected of some ties to Nazi Germany. If everything in the 2 links you provided are true and complete that does not mean that the United States sold "stuff" to the Nazis. In fact the United States took action against the bank and the only reason it gets such attention in some circles is because the name Prescott Bush is involved. So once again I ask for reputable sources showing that the United States was involved in trade with Germany during World War II. Not that trade that was taking place in 1932 but rather trade that was taking place while we were in a declared war with Germany that the United States government was aware of and approved of.
Modelworks
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After reading over some of the wikileaks cables I think the next war might occur with Pakistan and India. Lots of bad blood there and Pakistan keeps talking about due to their own inability to build a standing army they need more nukes to act as a deterrent to stay off India.
Modelworks
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Iran has a lot of supporters in Iraq. Not enough to raise an army but more than enough to bring Iraq back into chaos.
destrekor
Lifer
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The IDF (thanks to required conscription for all citizens, 2 years for female, 3 for male) has an active duty component of nearly 200,000, and a reserve component of roughly 500,000. And they have over 1 million in standby who are still fit for service should Israel make such a stroke of the pen.
[numbers pulled from wiki]
And all the service branches have top of the line (at the worst, fairly close to top) weapon systems and combat support tech.
They could invade and win fairly easily. Obliterate the masses, send the foot soldiers to take care of the rest.
Of course, this is all pending the ability to stop worrying about shit happening in their own borders, of which most of the active military is essentially dedicated to preserving what they already have and know within their borders.
Spreading thin the troops needed simply for home defense isn't a good idea, nor would it be to fight a war at home and one on your neighbor's land. Maybe that is what you were hinting at... but if they could use all their forces, against a conventional military... I'd put money on Israel every day.
I have no opinion of Israel as a country, but their military is not weak.
if it is a global war then we should offshore our armed forces, would make the share holders of america happy and you cant fight globalism
destrekor
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We should do this by demanding the U.N. outfit itself with a military arm. Militarizing the global government is basically the only route to bringing our civilization up one notch.
Not a global empire, but a global democratic conference. And the rule of majority decisions, and the single stipulation is that all military forces that are not necessary for domestic issues will thus be property of the entire world, to be used in essentially to ensure majority decisions are upheld (and likely, to squash the pestilent shits that piss off the majority).
Not a single throne, but one shared by whatever 50+ nations of the world constitute the majority of the Yes vote.
All decisions are decided for the entire world, one vote per nation, or maybe representative-style with the number of voters based on population. India and China at the top of the list, so you know I'm not saying this just because I like my status as an American.
brainhulk
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101217...5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawNua29yZWF3YXJuc3M-
if South Korea backs down, they officially need to turn in their man card
/popcorn
if South Korea backs down, they officially need to turn in their man card
/popcorn
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