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beatle

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Originally posted by: xmellyx
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: notfred
What are you eating?

It's more like what I'm wearing and the fact that despite dire predictions of utter physical ruin,eating complex carbs early in the day as part of a sensible diet has not slowed my progress in getting fit and trim:)

I'm telling ya, high-carbing is working for me!

That's good. :) Like Wingznut said, different plans work better for different people. Personally, I get ravenously hungry throughout the day if I eat high carb food, even stuff like pasta, potatoes and oatmeal (all complex).
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: beatle
Originally posted by: xmellyx
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: notfred
What are you eating?

It's more like what I'm wearing and the fact that despite dire predictions of utter physical ruin,eating complex carbs early in the day as part of a sensible diet has not slowed my progress in getting fit and trim:)

I'm telling ya, high-carbing is working for me!

That's good. :) Like Wingznut said, different plans work better for different people. Personally, I get ravenously hungry throughout the day if I eat high carb food, even stuff like pasta, potatoes and oatmeal (all complex).


I woke up in the middle of the night because I was starving,went to the fridge and binged on ...turkey:p
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: beatle
That's good. :) Like Wingznut said, different plans work better for different people. Personally, I get ravenously hungry throughout the day if I eat high carb food, even stuff like pasta, potatoes and oatmeal (all complex).
Same here... I would be starving by 11:00am (before I started low carb'ing.) Then I'd eat lunch and struggle to stay awake in the afternoon.

But with a lower carb plan, my energy level is higher and more consistant throughout the day, and I don't get hungry between meals. Even after I'm done losing the weight, I won't be returning to the typical diet. :)
 

yukichigai

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A low-carb diet is actually good for me since I have Attention Deficit Disorder. It keeps me really calm. Unfortunately I'm not as quick as I usually am.

The other bad thing about it is that after about 3 weeks of it I get severely constipated. Call me crazy, but I like it when I can poop.
 

Riprorin

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I've been doing my cardio after I put the kids to bed at 8:00 and I usually feel hungry at about 10:30. A glass of whey protein (chocolate) hits the spot.
 

Squisher

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Complex carbs can only make you healthy. Dark green veggies are best.

I try to keep my most carb loaded meals and my one piece of fruit to early in the day.



Right now I'm in a full court press to lose as much as I can in the next 5 weeks.
I've reduced the size of my meals and am doing 45 min. cardio every morning, weight training every other day.

I'm going on vacation March 13 and I know I'll be pigging out on a cruise.

 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Complex carbs can only make you healthy. Dark green veggies are best.

I try to keep my most carb loaded meals and my one piece of fruit to early in the day.



Right now I'm in a full court press to lose as much as I can in the next 5 weeks.
I've reduced the size of my meals and am doing 45 min. cardio every morning, weight training every other day.

I'm going on vacation March 13 and I know I'll be pigging out on a cruise.

Yeah,I'm really going to try to look at my diet with zero mercy and intensify my exercise plan,spring is coming soon and I would like to get noticed as looking good instead of being the invisble woman,at least once in awhile:)
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: godspeedx
The Atkin's Diet will get you thin, but not healthy.

You'll start to lose a lot of energy.
Odd... I actually have more energy... And no more energy swings. (i.e. I no longer get tired in the afternoon after lunch.)

Same thing here. I commute 14 miles a day on bike, lift weights, work 8 hrs and also take a class at a university. Energy seems OK and steady.
I used to fall asleep at work if I ate rice or pasta during lunch. I generally eat low carb cereal with low carb "milk" or eggs for breakfast, have some chicken or beef with low carb pasta and a salad for lunch, and maybe some seafood with vegetables or salad with a glass of wine for dinner. I guess it wouldn't make much difference if I had complex carb cereal instead of low carb cereal for breakfast, but I have no problem with low carb cereal, so why bother? Sometimes I have a small serving of roasted potatoes too. I do eat fruits once in a while, but stay away from sweet or sugar added fruits. I do have cake sometimes if it's a really big celebration. I try to not eat things that are too sugary though, maybe not eat the icing.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Don't expect to see big changes every week, otherwise you might be disappointed.
Unless you are midway through your first steroid cycle, don't expect to see big changes every week, otherwise you will be disappointed.

All calorie deficit diets (particularly with exercise) work . . . but few are healthy and sustainable. The Atkins as described in the majority of his books (and threads at ATOT) is neither healthy nor sustainable. It is possible to make an Atkins-derivative . . . closer to his most recent book . . . that is healthy and sustainable.

Yeah, yeah . . . so and so has been on the diet for 2 years, lost 50 pounds, has more energy, and an improved lipid profile. That's great except for so and so's colon looks like shag carpeting . . . amongst other health morbidity issues.
 

StageLeft

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Well the thing about Atkins, or most any other diet, is that a year from now that person will be fatter. One should not forget themselves when they suddenly lose weight; ie, it's not all fun and happiness from here on. It has to be sustained, and that's where most people fail.
 

tontod

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Well the thing about Atkins, or most any other diet, is that a year from now that person will be fatter. One should not forget themselves when they suddenly lose weight; ie, it's not all fun and happiness from here on. It has to be sustained, and that's where most people fail.


Its been a year since I've started atkins, and I've still kept my weight down.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: beatle
That's good. :) Like Wingznut said, different plans work better for different people. Personally, I get ravenously hungry throughout the day if I eat high carb food, even stuff like pasta, potatoes and oatmeal (all complex).
Same here... I would be starving by 11:00am (before I started low carb'ing.) Then I'd eat lunch and struggle to stay awake in the afternoon.

But with a lower carb plan, my energy level is higher and more consistant throughout the day, and I don't get hungry between meals. Even after I'm done losing the weight, I won't be returning to the typical diet. :)

How you can be hungry after eating oatmeal amazes me. Oatmeal fills me up for a quite a while. Oh well.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: godspeedx
The Atkin's Diet will get you thin, but not healthy.

You'll start to lose a lot of energy.
Odd... I actually have more energy... And no more energy swings. (i.e. I no longer get tired in the afternoon after lunch.)

*ahem*Would you not think that you have more energy because of the many lbs of fat you have lost?
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: godspeedx
The Atkin's Diet will get you thin, but not healthy.

You'll start to lose a lot of energy.
Odd... I actually have more energy... And no more energy swings. (i.e. I no longer get tired in the afternoon after lunch.)

*ahem*Would you not think that you have more energy because of the many lbs of fat you have lost?
The energy gain started within 10 days of me starting the plan. I went 90 days "eating whatever I want and exercising" (ended up gaining 12 lbs back) and found that the energy swings were back. It just feels much better (to me) to be on a low carb plan.

(NOTE: When I say "eat whatever I want", I was still cutting out the vast majority of sugars, with the exception of the occasional mocha. ;) )

 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: godspeedx
The Atkin's Diet will get you thin, but not healthy.

You'll start to lose a lot of energy.
Odd... I actually have more energy... And no more energy swings. (i.e. I no longer get tired in the afternoon after lunch.)

*ahem*Would you not think that you have more energy because of the many lbs of fat you have lost?
The energy gain started within 10 days of me starting the plan. I went 90 days "eating whatever I want and exercising" (ended up gaining 12 lbs back) and found that the energy swings were back. It just feels much better (to me) to be on a low carb plan.

(NOTE: When I say "eat whatever I want", I was still cutting out the vast majority of sugars, with the exception of the occasional mocha. ;) )

Ahh, well in that case I guess it wasn't the weight loss.
 

SuperTool

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My main problem with Atkins is that it's really expensive diet.
As soon as I finish buying new clothes for one size, It's time to buy new ones. ;)
I started at size 40 jeans, then I had to buy size 38, then 36, and now even those feel lose, so I'll have to buy size 34 pretty soon. :D
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
My main problem with Atkins is that it's really expensive diet.
As soon as I finish buying new clothes for one size, It's time to buy new ones. ;)
I started at size 40 jeans, then I had to buy size 38, then 36, and now even those feel lose, so I'll have to buy size 34 pretty soon. :D

I'm wearing size small's, 4's and the occasional 5 depending on the cut of the item.I'm starting to have trouble finding clothing that's small enough to fit without falling off me that's long enough in the leg/arm area.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: SuperTool
My main problem with Atkins is that it's really expensive diet.
As soon as I finish buying new clothes for one size, It's time to buy new ones. ;)
I started at size 40 jeans, then I had to buy size 38, then 36, and now even those feel lose, so I'll have to buy size 34 pretty soon. :D

Yup, 34 -> 30 for me. I bought some 32s that are way loose now.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: yukichigai
A low-carb diet is actually good for me since I have Attention Deficit Disorder. It keeps me really calm. Unfortunately I'm not as quick as I usually am.

The other bad thing about it is that after about 3 weeks of it I get severely constipated. Call me crazy, but I like it when I can poop.
Take some Metamucil.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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I applaud everyone that's dropped significant weight on Atkins (or derivations thereof). It takes a lot of willpower to change your eating habits and even moreso to sustain those changes over time. For those that were approaching morbid obesity (fat enough to affect your health) . . . the majority of effective weight loss diets are beneficial. But virtually all good diets preach the same mantra about changing unhealthy habits (smoking, caffeine, sedentary, processed foods, simple carbs, excess alcohol). It is quite easy to do all of the above, eat a 50-60% carb diet, lose weight, be healthy, AND feel quite happy about it.

Atkins . . . like most other weight loss diets . . . is quite effective as described. But it is not particularly healthy or sustainable . . . for the majority of people. It is possible to make an Atkins-derived diet that's quite healthy . . . essentially most of Atkins' last book. But those recommendations are scarcely different from what most enlightened nutrition experts have been describing for years . . . they just lacked marketing.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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netscape on fatty fish
Mom was right! Fish IS brain food. Eating fatty fish regularly, such as wild salmon, tuna, herring, mackerel, and bluefish, will help you keep your mind working now and actually reduce your future risk for cognitive impairment, according to researchers in The Netherlands. But beware: The study also found that those who eat foods high in cholesterol and saturated fat have an increased risk of cognitive impairment during middle age, reports Ivanhoe Newswire.

The study: From 1995 to 2000, 1,613 men and women between the ages of 45 to 70 years old underwent a series of cognitive tests and completed food questionnaires about their diets. The researchers were looking for a correlation between the risk for cognitive problems and the amount of fatty fish with omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids that was consumed.

The results: Those who ate more fatty fish and omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids had a reduced risk of cognitive problems. But the researchers also realized that people who consumed the most dietary cholesterol were more likely to have an increased problem with memory and flexibility. Plus, researchers say the higher their saturated fat intake, the higher the increase in the risk of impaired memory, speed, and flexibility, reports Ivanhoe Newswire.

What still remains to be proven is whether changing our diets to include more fish with omega-3 fatty acids will actually reduce neurodegenerative disorders, but this study does indicate there is an association between the two. Someday, your doctor may tell you: Eat wild salmon. Prevent dementia.

The study findings were published in the journal Neurology.

There's ample evidence for omega-3 from fish sources and how substituting omega-3 AND/OR monounsaturated fats for saturated AND polyunsaturated fats correlates with good outcomes in cardiovascular and mental health. That's a nuance that rarely appears in the Atkins-approved menu at TGIF or Subway.