The Assassination of JFK

[kylebisme]

Since people like to dismiss me for not being suckered by the official 9/11 conspiracy theory, I figured it would be interesting to see how many here are suckered by the lone gunman story of the JFK assassination. Based on the evidence I've seen, I've no doubt that the fatal shot came from the front, and hence can't rightly believe Oswald acted alone.

This documentary compiles much of the evidence I've based my conclusion on, and also provides some reasonable speculation into possible conspirators. So, for those who've never taken time to look at the evidence, I recommend watching that, and please feel free to ask questions in regard to anything presented in it.

By the way, for those of the herd mentality, polling consistently shows a wide majority of the population doesn't buy the offical story of JFK.

 

[irishScott]

Where's the option for: "Don't care, and will now find hookers and blow while you bitch about something you can't do anything about to other people who can't do anything about it."

You are dismissed.

 

[bamacre]

This guy has offered the best and most unbiased research I've seen on the subject...
http://www.youtube.com/user/bobharris77

His compilation starts here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkAc76n8q44

 

[glenn1]

I don't give a fvck about who killed JFK and care even less about your conspiracy theories about 9/11.

 

[boomerang]

1963 was a long, long time ago. Time to move on.

 

[First]

After getting pummeled with physics and math in your 9/11 thread you'd figure video evidence of JFK's assassination would be enough, but I guess that's why conspiracy theorists are laughing stocks.

 

[Genx87]

After getting pummeled with physics and math in your 9/11 thread you'd figure video evidence of JFK's assassination would be enough, but I guess that's why conspiracy theorists are laughing stocks.

Yeah hard to imagine a highly trained marine can utilize a weapon like he did. He had to have help right?

I blame two things on the rise of the online conspiracy nut community.

1. X-Files
2. Oliver Stone

These two works of fiction have somehow been made real in their brains.

 

[bamacre]

Yeah hard to imagine a highly trained marine can utilize a weapon like he did. He had to have help right?

I blame two things on the rise of the online conspiracy nut community.

1. X-Files
2. Oliver Stone

These two works of fiction have somehow been made real in their brains.

I think the JFK situation is a little more complex than you imply, and I imagine most people don't give the official story much merit.

The 9/11 situation is fairly different though. There's plenty of readily-available evidence to debunk the conspiracy theories.

As for the OP, I don't see how the two events are related at all.

 

[jman19]

Do we really need another kylebisme nutter thread?

 

[Danube]

I recall seeing a documentary with Lee H Oswald's brother in it. His brother said Oswald always wanted to be famous - to make a big impact. That how a lot of losers get drawn to communism - they want to feel important.

I think Oswald acted alone but I'm sure he had "sponsors". An ex GI turned commie doesn't live in USSR and then "Opps".. shot the president by coincidence.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

I recall seeing a documentary with Lee H Oswald's brother in it. His brother said Oswald always wanted to be famous - to make a big impact. That how a lot of losers get drawn to communism - they want to feel important.

It's the same reason a lot of losers get drawn to conspiracy theories. They like to believe they have special knowledge and that makes them feel important; not to mention that so many truthers are essentially paranoid-delusional types.

 

[First]

I think the JFK situation is a little more complex than you imply, and I imagine most people don't give the official story much merit.

The 9/11 situation is fairly different though. There's plenty of readily-available evidence to debunk the conspiracy theories.

As for the OP, I don't see how the two events are related at all.

The JFK assassination isn't particularly confusing, though. We've seen that, decades later, no one in on the supposed conspiracy has come forward, the physics themselves are actually quite readily explainable given the location of the JFK head shot, and the actual evidence behind everything from a mob hit to a 2nd gunman simply don't exist.

 

[bamacre]

The JFK assassination isn't particularly confusing, though. We've seen that, decades later, no one in on the supposed conspiracy has come forward, the physics themselves are actually quite readily explainable given the location of the JFK head shot, and the actual evidence behind everything from a mob hit to a 2nd gunman simply don't exist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination

I'd say it's not as simple as you may be implying. As for "no one has come forward," that's not 100% true. Carlos Marcello supposedly admitted to having JFK killed, but of course, there's no conclusive evidence he was telling the truth. Ford apparently also admitted that the CIA hid and/or destroyed evidence involving the assassination.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Yet another joke thread by kylebisme, nothing more to see here.

 

[First]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination

I'd say it's not as simple as you may be implying. As for "no one has come forward," that's not 100% true. Carlos Marcello supposedly admitted to having JFK killed, but of course, there's no conclusive evidence he was telling the truth. Ford apparently also admitted that the CIA hid and/or destroyed evidence involving the assassination.

That's pretty thin, especially after 50 years, yes?

And Ford? As in POTUS?

 

[kylebisme]

I think the JFK situation is a little more complex than you imply, and I imagine most people don't give the official story much merit.

No need to imagine, as there are plenty of professional polling results to prove as much, such as this, and this, and this.

The 9/11 situation is fairly different though. There's plenty of readily-available evidence to debunk the conspiracy theories.

As for the OP, I don't see how the two events are related at all.

There's plenty of readily-available evidence to debunk the official stories for both, but much of our society is dismissive of or even downright hostile to acknowledging anything of the sort, as can be seen in the responses to the topic of the assassination of JFK here. As for 9/11, if you are interested in seeing the evidence which contradicts the cover-up of that, this presentation would be a good place to start.

Anyway, I thank you for the videos you linked, he brings up some evidence I hadn't seen before, and offers some respectable analysis as well. I part ways with him when he gets to the Zapruder film though, this video does well to explain why.

 

[bamacre]

That's pretty thin, especially after 50 years, yes?

I suppose you could say that.

And Ford? As in POTUS?

Yeah.

 

[kylebisme]

Ford's admission:

The reason some things appeared to be suspicious was possibly because there were people who apparently did have things to hide. It came out later there was a government-sanctioned plot to kill Fidel Castro. There seemed to also have been a scramble to cover that up which did interfere marginally with our investigation, as I testified to the HSCA (House Select Committee on Assassinations). It was really more of a problem for the CIA. JFK's assassination and our investigation into it put certain classified and potentially embarrassing operations in danger of being exposed. Their reaction was to hide or destroy some information, which can easily be misinterpreted as collusion in JFK's assassination.

Granted, he still defended the lone gunman story, though his argument at the beginning of that section is telling of the mentality by which he did:

It is impossible to prove there weren’t any other shots or gunmen to those who insist otherwise (inherent when trying to prove any negative). It becomes far more complex to prove there were no plans of conspiracy. If conspiracy fanatics will claim every piece of hard evidence – including the President’s body, the home movies, the audio, the bullets, the X-rays, even bystanders – has been altered or forged, then it is hardly worth my time to debate it here.

But of course he can't rightly debate the guy who took the early photos showing a small entrance wound in the front and a large exit wound in the back, only to see his photos come back altered, or the Parkland hospital staff who reported the same wounds, and he can't rightly dismiss them as "conspiracy fanatics" either. So such people are simply ignored.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Ford's admission:


Granted, he still defended the lone gunman story, though his argument at the beginning of that section is telling of the mentality by which he did:


But of course he can't rightly debate the guy who took the early photos showing a small entrance wound in the front and a large exit wound in the back, only to see his photos come back altered, or the Parkland hospital staff who reported the same wounds, and he can't rightly dismiss them as "conspiracy fanatics" either. So such people are simply ignored.

you are arguing your conspiracy theory on the TONE of Ford's voice. WOW you are seriously desperate for attention.

 

[kylebisme]

I said nothing about Ford's voice. You are delusional.

 

[Leon]

ZOG / Illuminati / Aliens / Bush family are all responsible. Google it to find the truth!

Leon

 

[ShawnD1]

ZOG / Illuminati / Aliens / Bush family are all responsible. Google it to find the truth!

I asked it "who killed jfk?" and it didn't work
It works if you google for "what is the answer to life the universe and everything"
Actually try this.


Ignoring all of the investigations that concluded he acted alone, it seems reasonable Oswald acted alone. He was a very troubled boy. He moved around a lot as a kid, he was in foster care for a while, he was very delusional, he defected the soviet union then defected back to the US. As stated in Beavis and Butthead's book, one way to get famous quickly is to kill lots of unimportant people or to kill one very important person

That book was called Huh Huh For Hollywood and it was awesome. You should buy this book.
http://www.amazon.com/Huh-Hollywood-.../dp/067100655X

 

[3chordcharlie]

1963 was a long, long time ago. Time to move on.

The Kennedy killings, especially taken together, were a pretty significant turning point in 20th century western politics. And it is in living memory for people who are still only in their 50s. It's not as distant as you think.

 

[Druidx]

Looking forward with great expectation to your next conspiracy poll
Which one will it be......
Is there a new world order?
Did a UFO crash in Roswell in 1947?
Was the moon landing a fake?
Is Elvis still alive?

LOL

 

[Nemesis 1]

We have the tapes No need to vote for incident, Anyone who hasn't the eyes to see what happened will vote wrong. But denying your eyes in this case is blindness. The sheep will alsways follow the leader.