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Moonbeam

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So when someone shoves poo through your letterbox, it's not them you hate for doing it, it's yourself? IMO this is completely absurd.

My first impulse was to answer like this:

OK, so you get five points for the one instance in the universe where it's not true.

But then I read and decided to somewhat modify this:

Virtually all hatred of poo is hand-me-down hatred from tensions generated over potty training and the ridicule and humiliation one will inevitably get if one has any accidents especially at school? I suspect that's true.

When a person is in the market for something to blame for their lot in life, they may not realize they're shopping around for the most convenient thing to fixate on, but whatever opinions they consume in their environment, and because hate of the fear of uncontrolled shitting in ones pants has been sufficiently pervasive, they're still a target? I wonder if hatred of being called a poo poo head is a convenient one because loss of bowl control isn't sufficiently widespread (at least in my experience): it means that someone who hates it is unlikely to be called out for actively themselves pooping in say the street, so they can stir that pot in seclusion, pun intended. It would be natural, then, to contend, that a random incident of somebody shoving shit through your door could awaken all these old fears, and as we all well know, we hate what we fear.

And by the way, poo poo head, don't challenge what I say. I don't like being told I am wrong. It always makes me feel all the other times in my life when I was told there is something wrong with me. There is nothing wrong with me, asshole, there is something wrong with you.

And one more thing.... Why the fuck would you hate somebody who hands you free fertilizer? I gleefully pay for that at the garden store because I get a gross of beautiful roses per bag. You realize, I hope, "that your entire experience of your reality takes place entirely inside your head. So any emotion you feel towards an external object is actually a reaction to what that object means to you.", right?
 

Vic

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So when someone shoves poo through your letterbox, it's not them you hate for doing it, it's yourself? IMO this is completely absurd.
Reality is real (once again IMO). Your perception of reality is not. That occurs entirely inside your head. Hate, like all emotions, is a form of perception. If you hate someone or something, what you're actually hating is what that person or thing means to you.
 

mikeymikec

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My first impulse was to answer like this:

OK, so you get five points for the one instance in the universe where it's not true.

But then I read and decided to somewhat modify this:

Virtually all hatred of poo is hand-me-down hatred from tensions generated over potty training and the ridicule and humiliation one will inevitably get if one has any accidents especially at school? I suspect that's true.

When a person is in the market for something to blame for their lot in life, they may not realize they're shopping around for the most convenient thing to fixate on, but whatever opinions they consume in their environment, and because hate of the fear of uncontrolled shitting in ones pants has been sufficiently pervasive, they're still a target? I wonder if hatred of being called a poo poo head is a convenient one because loss of bowl control isn't sufficiently widespread (at least in my experience): it means that someone who hates it is unlikely to be called out for actively themselves pooping in say the street, so they can stir that pot in seclusion, pun intended. It would be natural, then, to contend, that a random incident of somebody shoving shit through your door could awaken all these old fears, and as we all well know, we hate what we fear.

And by the way, poo poo head, don't challenge what I say. I don't like being told I am wrong. It always makes me feel all the other times in my life when I was told there is something wrong with me. There is nothing wrong with me, asshole, there is something wrong with you.

And one more thing.... Why the fuck would you hate somebody who hands you free fertilizer? I gleefully pay for that at the garden store because I get a gross of beautiful roses per bag. You realize, I hope, "that your entire experience of your reality takes place entirely inside your head. So any emotion you feel towards an external object is actually a reaction to what that object means to you.", right?

I think we're talking at cross-purposes and I think there's a misunderstanding involved.

Is it a known thing in the US that for example non-white people get poo shoved through their letterboxes (do you guys even have letterboxes in your doors or is it that stereotypical letterbox at the end of the drive?) by white supremacist types? Or is that a thing that only happens in the UK? I've heard of other things been shoved through letterboxes that are likely to cause danger to life and limb.
 

Moonbeam

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I think we're talking at cross-purposes and I think there's a misunderstanding involved.

Is it a known thing in the US that for example non-white people get poo shoved through their letterboxes (do you guys even have letterboxes in your doors or is it that stereotypical letterbox at the end of the drive?) by white supremacist types? Or is that a thing that only happens in the UK? I've heard of other things been shoved through letterboxes that are likely to cause danger to life and limb.
When I do that, I put it in wax paper and a paper bag, light it on fire in front of the door and ring the bell.
 

realibrad

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Reality is real (once again IMO). Your perception of reality is not. That occurs entirely inside your head. Hate, like all emotions, is a form of perception. If you hate someone or something, what you're actually hating is what that person or thing means to you.

Can you not dislike something because of the negative traits of that thing, and not the meaning?

Hate is the conclusion of the dislike side of the spectrum that is like and dislike. I can dislike not living, not because of how I value death, but because how much I value life. So saying that I hate something because of how I value that thing seems flawed.
 
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What...is going on here? Moonbeam waxing philosophical using poo analogies and people seriously partaking in the discourse? I mean, granted its like the total opposite of what the conservatives on here do, which is to wax moronic on serious topics, effectively pooing on discourse. But still kinda weird.
 

realibrad

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What...is going on here? Moonbeam waxing philosophical using poo analogies and people seriously partaking in the discourse? I mean, granted its like the total opposite of what the conservatives on here do, which is to wax moronic on serious topics, effectively pooing on discourse. But still kinda weird.

If you view what is said and take the abstraction of the analogies, you can have a valid debate/discussion.

The problem will happen once someone comes in and gets stuck on the face value and calls out people because that person does not understand.

So, feel free to fling some poo if you would like.