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I'm not a huge fan of the whole life + whatever copyright scheme we have now, but I do recognize the value of some limited protection time. Also, fuck these tech companies that like to operate on a break the rules now, try to wiggle out of consequences later model. And that's effectively what they've done in training their large language models - fed in copyrighted works so that their company could later make money on their LLM. That's just about the worst way to be violating a copyright - it's not Joe Schmo illegally downloading an MP3. It's Joe Schmo Inc illegally downloading all the MP3s and books and whatnot for commercial use to create what will be an extremely valuable hallucination machine.

"We mugged so many people, we just can't figure out how to pay the money back, so maybe we should just keep it all"
 
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This dutch documentary from VPRO tegenlicht (In English) is about the AI bubble.
An interview with the Chinese economist Andy Xie who is known about predicting bubbles.
Like for example the mortgage bubble and the internet bubble, explains how again a bubble is forming : The AI bubble.
Many entrepreneurs and many investors in the Western world and in the asian world invest large amounts of money into potential AI products. And that is not going to hold up.
When is the AI bubble going to collapse...

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‘America’s idea of winning is to create a God. That God will live in San Francisco. And the God works for America,’ explains the Chinese economist Andy Xie
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This dutch documentary from VPRO tegenlicht (In English) is about the AI bubble.
An interview with the Chinese economist Andy Xie who is known about predicting bubbles.
Like for example the mortgage bubble and the internet bubble, explains how again a bubble is forming : The AI bubble.
Many entrepreneurs and many investors in the Western world and in the asian world invest large amounts of money into potential AI products. And that is not going to hold up.
When is the AI bubble going to collapse...

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‘America’s idea of winning is to create a God. That God will live in San Francisco. And the God works for America,’ explains the Chinese economist Andy Xie
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The only real use IA has is to the army. To generate tactics to erradicate opponents... yeah, making it as a weapon of destruction
 

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pmv

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No way would I rely on Chat GPT (or any of the others) for anything important.

The _only_ thing I'd be happy to use AI for is entertainment (visual art, and pretty sure it has a lot of potential for on-the-fly content generation for things like open-world video games)

People say "don't google your symptoms" but I have never found any problem when actually searching for primary, or at least reputable, sources.

Indeed I correctly diagnosed an elderly relative's TGA incident within a day of witnessing it, via Google (it took the actual medical professionals a further two years and two MRIs to come to the exact same conclusion, after initially entirely misdiagnosing it as a TIA).

Someone I know (prone to health anxiety) decided they had cancer, because ChatGPT told them their symptoms indicated that - when looking at the actual hits searches turned up made it very clear there were multiple other less serious possible causes (as it turned out).
 
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The only real use IA has is to the army. To generate tactics to erradicate opponents... yeah, making it as a weapon of destruction
AI can be handy, but what i noticed is that in the beginning period of Google before AI , the search results were more accurate and less filtered , less censored.
AI will present the user what others find convenient. Control of the population.

Since we have so much human smartphone drones blindly following influencers...
It is all gone down the drain.
 

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AI can be handy, but what i noticed is that in the beginning period of Google before AI , the search results were more accurate and less filtered , less censored.
AI will present the user what others find convenient. Control of the population.

Since we have so much human smartphone drones blindly following influencers...
It is all gone down the drain.
The issue is that AI can be bypassed and can screw the algorithm, if they tries to "correct" that, is no longer an AI, but just a filter like the Chinese.
 

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The gift that keeps on giving!




Schmuckerberg stockpiling AI super-talent.


 
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No way would I rely on Chat GPT (or any of the others) for anything important.

The _only_ thing I'd be happy to use AI for is entertainment (visual art, and pretty sure it has a lot of potential for on-the-fly content generation for things like open-world video games)

People say "don't google your symptoms" but I have never found any problem when actually searching for primary, or at least reputable, sources.

Indeed I correctly diagnosed an elderly relative's TGA incident within a day of witnessing it, via Google (it took the actual medical professionals a further two years and two MRIs to come to the exact same conclusion, after initially entirely misdiagnosing it as a TIA).

Someone I know (prone to health anxiety) decided they had cancer, because ChatGPT told them their symptoms indicated that - when looking at the actual hits searches turned up made it very clear there were multiple other less serious possible causes (as it turned out).

I say this VERY GENERICALLY, but older, non-technical social media users are (generally) no longer able to discern AI-generated content. I've seen this in family members, friends, and clients. In some ways, AI will be a plague on this generation due to misinformation. These video generations below are now turnkey operations:


 
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Been diving more into using ChatGPT to create custom interfaces, such as a live spinnable continuous ping app that can display downed endpoints in red at-a-glance as a fun dashboard. Feels like owning a genie LOL