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The 980 performance prediction poll

How fast will the 980 be relative to the 780 ti? (prediction)

  • Significantly Faster than 780 ti >30%

  • Faster than a 780 ti 15-30%

  • Slightly faster than a 780 ti 5-15%

  • Roughly the SAME (+/- 5%)

  • Bit Slower <15%

  • Slower 15-30%

  • Much slower 30%

  • Other

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wand3r3r

wand3r3r

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Where do you think the 980 performance will be relative to the 780 ti?

It will be fun to compare where we are presuming it lands, and where it lands once it does. (Public so we can look back 🙂 )

My thoughts at this point, based on the rumors so far:

I haven't read all the rumors, but I suspect it will beat the 780 ti, if only slightly. If it doesn't it isn't worthy of the x80 moniker imo. I also predict that it won't disrupt the GPU price/performance scale very much (only on the NV side which are very out of line atm anyway), I'd even go as far as to guess that it might not even disrupt the 290/x value (around it but not significantly better value).

I'm guessing $500, and slightly faster than the 780 ti. Since the 780 ti is around the $600 mark, it's not going to be a market changing card with the 290x hitting $430ish. I presume it will consume less power based on maxwell 750 (& hype perf/w), although it will also be limited by a 256 bit bus it comes with tradeoffs at 4k. I guess 4GB will be standard by now, and likely fast ram to compensate for the small bus. The 4k battle will probably be closer with the 295x2 having actual competition with these in sli.
 
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wand3r3r - I don't thinks we've seen a "Ti" card in the upper-end before the 780 Ti, so there's no real precedent to go on. The 560 Ti was slightly faster than the 470, the 660 Ti was a bit faster than the 570, but the 750 Ti was not faster than the 660.

I'm actually going to bet, based on the lack of competition from AMD, that the 980 (if that's what it's called) will be the same speed as the 780 Ti, and will cost $600. That would place it right in between the 780 and 780 Ti in current retail prices, and would bring with it much higher performance per watt. That's all Nvidia needs to do to keep its lead. And 4GB of VRAM really is critical. If it doesn't have that it's not an upgrade.

By the way, my educated guess is that the 780 Ti is not having any trouble outselling the 290X - hence the lack of urgency on Nvidia's end. Remember the 780 came out at $650, so $600 would be a price drop for the high end.
 
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Keysplayr said:
I don't recall the 560Ti being faster than a 470 though. Unless my memory is failing me. hehe.
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wand3r3r said:
Where do you think the 980 performance will be relative to the 780 ti?

It will be fun to compare where we are presuming it lands, and where it lands once it does. (Public so we can look back 🙂 )

My thoughts at this point, based on the rumors so far:

I haven't read all the rumors, but I suspect it will beat the 780 ti, if only slightly. If it doesn't it isn't worthy of the x80 moniker imo. I also predict that it won't disrupt the GPU price/performance scale very much (only on the NV side which are very out of line atm anyway), I'd even go as far as to guess that it might not even disrupt the 290/x value (around it but not significantly better value).

I'm guessing $500, and slightly faster than the 780 ti. Since the 780 ti is around the $600 mark, it's not going to be a market changing card with the 290x hitting $430ish. I presume it will consume less power based on maxwell 750 (& hype perf/w), although it will also be limited by a 256 bit bus it comes with tradeoffs at 4k. I guess 4GB will be standard by now, and likely fast ram to compensate for the small bus. The 4k battle will probably be closer with the 295x2 having actual competition with these in sli.
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Didn't we already have one of these? Are we getting a Mulligan and can now revise our early predictions? 😀
 
I really am thinking it will come close to 780Ti or maybe +5%, but am really hoping of course I am wrong and its the 25% some are saying or higher then I would most likely be a buyer. I would like to have Shadow Play back and will very possibly get a G Sync 144hz gaming monitor, so I am pulling for the 25% or higher. I also just have a hard believing imo that FS is going to work well vs G-sync and is one reason I hoping on the performance of the 980 but hope I am wrong on FS.
 
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My think is GTX 980 as fast as Titan and GTX 970 as fast as GTX 780. Power consumption is 980=680 and 970=670(This on 28nm).
 
I will be disappointed with anything less than a 30% increase. They need to quickly get to the point of a single GPU being 4k capable.
 
Jumpem said:
I will be disappointed with anything less than a 30% increase. They need to quickly get to the point of a single GPU being 4k capable.
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I will too, but reality is that it's just not going to happen with the current situation. Neither company is going to release a 400mm^2 die that is going to outperform the 780 TI by 30%.
 
tviceman said:
I will too, but reality is that it's just not going to happen with the current situation. Neither company is going to release a 400mm^2 die that is going to outperform the 780 TI by 30%.
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I think nvidia certainty could with the profits and demands they have from the professional sector.
 
They could beat the 780 Ti by 30% either by putting more SMMs in or by raising clock speed. But that would mean
a) higher TDP and possibly decreased efficiency
b) worse scaling due to lack of bandwidth (assuming they stick with 256 bit)
c) less distance to GM200

Especially c) is important if NV wants to sell a Titan 2 that deserves its name for $999
 
boxleitnerb said:
They could beat the 780 Ti by 30% either by putting more SMMs in or by raising clock speed. But that would mean
a) higher TDP and possibly decreased efficiency
b) worse scaling due to lack of bandwidth (assuming they stick with 256 bit)
c) less distance to GM200

Especially c) is important if NV wants to sell a Titan 2 that deserves its name for $999
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So are you saying it could be 30% faster if they wanted it to. I doubt that. Even if it's possible at max O/C, they don't release cards maxed out.

The one bench we've seen has it about even with the 780 non ti. It's only one bench and could be a bit faster, but likely not too much. Unless they were sandbagging with an under clocked ES? Which I suppose is possible.
 
3DVagabond said:
So are you saying it could be 30% faster if they wanted it to. I doubt that. Even if it's possible at max O/C, they don't release cards maxed out.

The one bench we've seen has it about even with the 780 non ti. It's only one bench and could be a bit faster, but likely not too much. Unless they were sandbagging with an under clocked ES? Which I suppose is possible.
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And do you know what SKU that was? No, and neither does anyone. Could be the GTX 970.
Latest leaks point to 780 Ti +10%, at least in Firestrike Extreme. 18% OC and tada, you're there. But NV won't do that because they don't need to cannibalize their own (future) lineup and because every IHV only brings as much performance to the table as is needed to slightly beat the competition.
 
boxleitnerb said:
And do you know what SKU that was? No, and neither does anyone. Could be the GTX 970.
Latest leaks point to 780 Ti +10%, at least in Firestrike Extreme. 18% OC and tada, you're there. But NV won't do that because they don't need to cannibalize their own (future) lineup and because every IHV only brings as much performance to the table as is needed to slightly beat the competition.
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18% O/c is not an unusual amt. Just because it can O/c to be X% faster doesn't mean nVidia held back not setting the clocks that high. Like I said, Maybe @ max O/C it might be 30% faster, but that's not what the poll is asking. We can always O/C 780ti's too.
 
The question should be how big do you think it will be?

That is what will determine performance.

It's still 28nm so the performance will all be down to architecture improvements.

If its like Gk104 mid-range, ~300mm2, it wouldn't be faster than the 780ti.
 
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