The $4 million dollar teacher.

[Mai72]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...9780253571520.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

Interesting article. American teachers are always complaining that they don't get paid enough. Maybe it's because of the unions.

The hagwon system is a free market. You either adapt or you die. This system will make you a better teacher because of the pressure they put on educators to retain students. The market is fierce. In Seoul there are approximately 3-4 schools on every block, and they all compete for the same students. It's most definitely a dog eat dog environment.

What really struck me about this article was this line:

Nearly three of every four South Korean kids participate in the private market. In 2012, their parents spent more than $17 billion on these services. That is more than the $15 billion spent by Americans on videogames that year, according to the NPD Group, a research firm.

I think this is sad. :'(

 

[zinfamous]

Nearly three of every four South Korean kids participate in the private market. In 2012, their parents spent more than $17 billion on these services. That is more than the $15 billion spent by Americans on videogames that year, according to the NPD Group, a research firm.

what's the point of comparing those numbers? How much did American Parents spend on elite private schools last year, and how much did Koreans spend on video games? and uh...per capita costs, maybe?

Further, how many hours did Koreans waste sitting in internet cafes playing Starcraft or DoTA while pissing in jars? :hmm:

 

[HamburgerBoy]

inb4 white people say "Yeah, but we're creative!!!!!!"

 

[Mai72]

what's the point of comparing those numbers? How much did American Parents spend on elite private schools last year, and how much did Koreans spend on video games? and uh...per capita costs, maybe?

Further, how many hours did Koreans waste sitting in internet cafes playing Starcraft or DoTA while pissing in jars? :hmm:

Lol... True. I either see them on their smart phones playing games, or they are hanging around one of the many cyber cafes in my area.

😛

 

[KLin]

The entire game market is estimated at approximately $5 billion dollars annually, or about $100 per resident, which is more than three times what Americans spend.

http://geography.about.com/od/culturalgeography/a/South-Korea-Computer-Gaming-Culture.htm

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry#cite_note-5


We wouldn't expect a media outlet to actually do an apples to apples comparison now, would we?

 

[Mai72]

http://geography.about.com/od/culturalgeography/a/South-Korea-Computer-Gaming-Culture.htm

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry#cite_note-5

South Korean pro gamers date super models!!?? 😱

I do know that they game a lot, and gaming addiction is a huge problem here. I see it every time I take the subway. Everyone is glued to their smartphones.
No one says hi. Hell, they don't even look at you.

 

[Puppies04]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...9780253571520.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

Interesting article. American teachers are always complaining that they don't get paid enough. Maybe it's because of the unions.

The hagwon system is a free market. You either adapt or you die. This system will make you a better teacher because of the pressure they put on educators to retain students. The market is fierce. In Seoul there are approximately 3-4 schools on every block, and they all compete for the same students. It's most definitely a dog eat dog environment.

What really struck me about this article was this line:



I think this is sad. :'(

It's a people eat dog environment aswell 😀

 

[mugs]

3-4 schools on every block? Ok.

 

[styrafoam]

3-4 schools on every block? Ok.

Weird, but somewhat true evidently.

These people make teaching at a hagwon a situation to be avoided at all costs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8XAch40z8E (corny video blogger link)


OP, we have fly by night schools here in the USA, but they are mostly technical/vocational "universities" so you can probably get a job teaching how to order korean take out at one of them if you need to in the near future. If the school goes under, its because YOU didn't teach hard enough.

 

[neonfiremanqtip]

delete pls

 

[TallBill]

what's the point of comparing those numbers? How much did American Parents spend on elite private schools last year, and how much did Koreans spend on video games? and uh...per capita costs, maybe?

Further, how many hours did Koreans waste sitting in internet cafes playing Starcraft or DoTA while pissing in jars? :hmm:

Lol seriously, what a garbage statistic.

 

[Murloc]

I think it's sad that korean kids are not allowed to have a life and despite of all this, korea isn't that more developed or happy than the rest of the first world. So what's the point?

 

[Exterous]

Interesting article. American teachers are always complaining that they don't get paid enough. Maybe it's because of the unions.

The hagwon system is a free market. You either adapt or you die. This system will make you a better teacher because of the pressure they put on educators to retain students. The market is fierce. In Seoul there are approximately 3-4 schools on every block, and they all compete for the same students. It's most definitely a dog eat dog environment.

There is far more wrong with our education system than unions. Changing our schools to a free market without some pretty drastic foundation changes (like school funding and political meddling) would be disastrous.

inb4 white people say "Yeah, but we're creative!!!!!!"

Well, we are somewhat but no where near what Finland has achieved. The system could be a very good indicator of what a hybrid system could achieve but the implementation has failed.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...9780253571520.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

Interesting article. American teachers are always complaining that they don't get paid enough. Maybe it's because of the unions.

The hagwon system is a free market. You either adapt or you die. This system will make you a better teacher because of the pressure they put on educators to retain students. The market is fierce. In Seoul there are approximately 3-4 schools on every block, and they all compete for the same students. It's most definitely a dog eat dog environment.

What really struck me about this article was this line:

Nearly three of every four South Korean kids participate in the private market. In 2012, their parents spent more than $17 billion on these services. That is more than the $15 billion spent by Americans on videogames that year, according to the NPD Group, a research firm.

I think this is sad. :'(

How is private education and video games a direct comparison when comparing two counties for their private educational efforts? How much does the USA spend on private education. Now that is an appropriate comparison.

Also, $15 Billion spent on a much, much larger population. NPD can go screw itself, and maybe find one of these schools to learn how to go get screwed. 🙂

 

[Dari]

Funny how they all come here to attend our universities and stay here to work at our companies. Truth is, our free-market system is simply better.

 

[RossMAN]

Weird, but somewhat true evidently.

These people make teaching at a hagwon a situation to be avoided at all costs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8XAch40z8E (corny video blogger link)


OP, we have fly by night schools here in the USA, but they are mostly technical/vocational "universities" so you can probably get a job teaching how to order korean take out at one of them if you need to in the near future. If the school goes under, its because YOU didn't teach hard enough.

LOL at this related video.

 

[olds]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100...9780253571520.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

Interesting article. American teachers are always complaining that they don't get paid enough. Maybe it's because of the unions.

The hagwon system is a free market. You either adapt or you die. This system will make you a better teacher because of the pressure they put on educators to retain students. The market is fierce. In Seoul there are approximately 3-4 schools on every block, and they all compete for the same students. It's most definitely a dog eat dog environment.

What really struck me about this article was this line:



I think this is sad. :'(

I see what you did there

 

[Udgnim]

The country now has a 93% high-school graduation rate, compared with 77% in the U.S.

only 93% graduation rate?

 

[DrPizza]

There are huge cultural differences between the US and Korea, especially in the importance that people see in education, and the difference in how much parents will push their kids to succeed. It would be a dream to have an entire classroom of students whose parents forced them to study, and who all also wanted to learn, because they know it's the only way they're getting into the next level of education.

Does Korea have a lot of students who go home at 3pm, and have no adult supervision at all in the evening, because the kids are in a one parent household, and that parent is at a minimum wage job? (The list of things like this goes on, but I won't.)

 

[Dari]

There are huge cultural differences between the US and Korea, especially in the importance that people see in education, and the difference in how much parents will push their kids to succeed. It would be a dream to have an entire classroom of students whose parents forced them to study, and who all also wanted to learn, because they know it's the only way they're getting into the next level of education.

Does Korea have a lot of students who go home at 3pm, and have no adult supervision at all in the evening, because the kids are in a one parent household, and that parent is at a minimum wage job? (The list of things like this goes on, but I won't.)

It's not as great as it sounds. Parents and children invest a lot of time and money into education only to find out that not everyone is destined to get the best jobs or career. All that money 'wasted' can lead to very angry parents and suicidal kids. As a solution, South Korea is trying to de-emphasize education and make it socially ok to only have a high school degree.

 

[mikegg]

what's the point of comparing those numbers? How much did American Parents spend on elite private schools last year, and how much did Koreans spend on video games? and uh...per capita costs, maybe?

Further, how many hours did Koreans waste sitting in internet cafes playing Starcraft or DoTA while pissing in jars? :hmm:

Not many. Most Koreans I know have never played Starcraft.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Florida has better pay than North Carolina.

 

[Fenixgoon]

There are huge cultural differences between the US and Korea, especially in the importance that people see in education, and the difference in how much parents will push their kids to succeed. It would be a dream to have an entire classroom of students whose parents forced them to study, and who all also wanted to learn, because they know it's the only way they're getting into the next level of education.

Does Korea have a lot of students who go home at 3pm, and have no adult supervision at all in the evening, because the kids are in a one parent household, and that parent is at a minimum wage job? (The list of things like this goes on, but I won't.)

this.

You can't just make a school perform better by thowing lots of money at it. You need to change the culture of the kids and parents of kids (as far as culture/importance of education)

 

[sdifox]

Let's pretend for the moment there is a direct correlation between performance and pay.

What do you think is better? 1 4M dollar teacher or 4,000 100k teachers?

 

[BladeVenom]

Americans spend $591 billion on education, of course that's government education.