The 3rd Folding@Home Holiday Season Race in December 2008

[rabrittain]

Per Sid's recommendations, I reconfigured the GPU and SMP clients one the one machine. Both cores are running at 100%. Everything looks good. The GPU is processing 1% of the wu every 8 1/2 minutes. I'm not sure about the SMP client. ... will continue to monitor my machines remotely from my ex-wife's house, and I'll let you know more in a while.

 

[Insidious]

Outstanding news :thumbsup:

The GPU client at 8.5 minutes per frame sounds fine. That's less than a day (1440 minutes in a day) for the WU. Now just see how the SMP is doing after a while.

I love it when a PC comes together!

-Sid

 

[rabrittain]

The SMP client has been working more than 1.5 hours and hasn't changed by 1% yet.

Should I have enabled the affinity changer?

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: rabrittain
The SMP client has been working more than 1.5 hours and hasn't changed by 1% yet.

Should I have enabled the affinity changer?

Affinity changer doesn't work with 1 Smp and 1 Gpu, only 2 Smp's will it work properly.

That means it's probably *hung* and it won't give you anything do to the cpu.
You could probably try to set Affinity manually and set the smp cores to 1 core and the Gpu to 1 core but With a dual core, I think your best bet is the Gpu by itself.

I did however get lucky with my E7200 rig as I got an Ati card and a smp to run at the same time. But the smp took quite a long time to complete as comaired so I yanked the Ati and just ran the smp alone with it and got better results.

I hope you can get it resolved to your liking...

 

[rabrittain]

OK -- I have enabled the affinity changer with "-configonly" -- how do I set it manually?

You are right. SMP is taking a long time. I'm going to watch it for a little while to see how it is doing.

Thanks Drsignguy!!!

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Maybe you'd like to run F@H GPU on this QUAD 9800 GX2 rig!? .

Speaking of Fastra, check out their GPU temps.
link

One of them gets up to 100C!!!!!

I'm wondering how they keep their GPUs running, at those temps, when my lowly 9600GSO apparently died at 96C for two weeks.

If they can sustain those temps, then what killed my GPU, if it wasn't heat?

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: rabrittain
OK -- I have enabled the affinity changer with "-configonly" -- how do I set it manually?

You are right. SMP is taking a long time. I'm going to watch it for a little while to see how it is doing.

Thanks Drsignguy!!!

If you use "ctrl-alt-del" keys and start task manager, go to processes and find all (4) Fahcore_a1.exe. right click on each 1 and manually set to core "0" and do the same to Fahcore_11.exe, which is the Gpu and set it to core 1.

 

[Insidious]

If you are setting affinities manually, you probably want to set two of the SMP processes to core 0 and two of them to core 1.

I recommend against that method because you have to manually re-set them everytime the client finishes a work unit.

The "affinity changer" is a utility that you download and do a one-time installation. It takes care of itself from then on. (the affinity settings with -configonly have been widely rumored to be useless) It is designed to help spread the load for a single SMP client on a dual core machine.

you can download and read about the affinity changer at this site

-Sid

 

[rabrittain]

The SMP client was too slow. I stopped both clients and restarted SMP with the -oneunit switch. It's at 97%. I'm going to try Sid's suggestion and download the single core client and run it with the GPU client. If that doesn't give me more ppd than SMP by itself, I'll go back to the SMP without the GPU.

 

[Drsignguy]

Sid is correct. But the only reason for the suggestion was to see if your client would at least start crunching and to see if any results would show up. It does suck that you have to change every time. I did try the affinity changer in the configuration section but it doesn't work. I wish it did.............:frown:

 

[MaskedAvenger]

Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Maybe you'd like to run F@H GPU on this QUAD 9800 GX2 rig!? .

Btw what ppd do you get on your 4850s?

Now I'm getting 4100 ppd on each 4850. Anyone know why the ppd numbers vary so much? I haven't done anything to the PC since early this morning?
Also, the 2nd card won't work unless it is hooked up to a monitor.
Anyone know how to fool Windows into thinking a monitor is there if it isn't. I'm thinking of using a spare KVM cord. Besides that, anyone have any ideas?

I wonder what that Fastra rig's ppd would be? 40k?

 

[Assimilator1]

MaskedAvenger
Yea personally I would never use any auto-overclocking program, the only 1 that ever found that worked was ATItool's auto overclocking, however that hasn't been updated in over a year so doesn't support newer cards. Although you can still use the fury cube to test manual overclocks (which is want you want to do if you want to over clock GPUs).
Btw different WUs give different ppd, but WUs of the same project should be near enough the same, I think! .

Re Fahmon ,not AFAIK, would be handy though!
Re FASTRA's rig, & the rest ,it's got 8 GPUs remember

Also, the 2nd card won't work unless it is hooked up to a monitor.
Won't work at all?, maybe some power saving feature?

VirtualLarry
Yea they let their GPUs get very hot! :Q
Btw if you read the whole lot you'll see they ran it with the side pannel off to bring temps down to just over 90C, but that's still toasty!.

rabrittain
I think the idea is you just ditch affin changer with a dual core rig.

Sid
I thought affin changer was primarily for 2xSMP on quad core rigs?

 

[Insidious]

Originally posted by: Assimilator1
MaskedAvenger
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Sid
I thought affin changer was primarily for 2xSMP on quad core rigs?

I did too for a long time. Recently, I was asked about it, and went back to the site to read up.

On a quad rig it only helps if you have 2 SMPs running (this is what I mistakenly was repeating as "it's only for 2 SMPs on a quad")

As it turns out, it is for 1 SMP on a dual or 2 SMPs on a quad.

I know I told a lot of people wrong in past posts... hoping for forgivness.

-Sid

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: MaskedAvenger
Also, the 2nd card won't work unless it is hooked up to a monitor.
Anyone know how to fool Windows into thinking a monitor is there if it isn't. I'm thinking of using a spare KVM cord. Besides that, anyone have any ideas?

Look at my quad-GPU rig thread, and google for "VGA dummy".

 

[rabrittain]

OK -- On the one machine I'm using a GPU client and a uniprocessor client. It seems to be working.

Is there a way to get FAHMON to report on the uniprocessor client. I shared the folder that it installed to, and I added the client, but it never reported anything. It just said "N/A". I waited a couple of hours. Nothing ever happened.



edit: 12/24/2008 ~2135 pst -- OK -- I found the correct folder for FAH x86 and FahMon.

Yea!!

 

[Insidious]

:thumbsup:

-Sid

MERRY CHRISTMAS :beer:

 

[biodoc]

Udate: 9AM EST:

3880560___Folders
3804921___TAS

Folders in the lead by 75,639!!

VERY impressive performance Folders!!:beer:

Merry Christmas all!:beer::beer:

 

[rabrittain]

So ... my goal with the gpu was to raise my ppd. It didn't work. The gpu and the uniprocessor together don't put out as much as smp.

When the current wu's are done I'm changing back to smp.

I learned a lot. If I had 2 graphics cards, it would be better. But every now and then I like to play a game -- so it would pain me not to have the graphics cards in crossfire mode. It's something to consider though. -- maybe next year.

 

[Assimilator1]

Happy Christmas all

Originally posted by: Insidious

Originally posted by: Assimilator1
MaskedAvenger
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Sid
I thought affin changer was primarily for 2xSMP on quad core rigs?

I did too for a long time. Recently, I was asked about it, and went back to the site to read up.

On a quad rig it only helps if you have 2 SMPs running (this is what I mistakenly was repeating as "it's only for 2 SMPs on a quad")

As it turns out, it is for 1 SMP on a dual or 2 SMPs on a quad.

I know I told a lot of people wrong in past posts... hoping for forgivness.

-Sid

Will a :beer: do instead?

 

[petrusbroder]

Sorry folks, too little time for new stats - I'll do them tomorrow.

 

[MaskedAvenger]

Merry Christmas, fellow folders!

This looks to be my best folding day ever, thanks to the advice from you all!

 

[biodoc]

Originally posted by: MaskedAvenger
Merry Christmas, fellow folders!

This looks to be my best folding day ever, thanks to the advice from you all!

Wow, your production really is impressive now!

Congrats!:beer:

Now it will be even more difficult for TAS to make a comeback!

 

[petrusbroder]

The teams' stats as of December 26, 20:15 UTC:

The Folders
ppd __________ points ________ ppd __________ points _________ points _______ points _________ Name
at start _______ at start ______ Dec.26 ________ Dec. 26 ________ in Dec. _____ past 3 days ______________
_____ 0 _____ _ 134 846 ______ 3 708 _______ _ 220 835 _______ 85 989 ________ 12 304 _______ [TA]Assimilator1
__1 175 ____ __ 333 011 _____ __ 876 _______ _ 348 112 _______ 15 101 _________ 1 674 _______ Alyyx
__4 271 _____ 1 902 475 ______ 6 860 _______ 2 064 800 ______ 162 325 ________ 23 026 _______ Cutthroat
___ 824 _____ __ 13 343 ______ 1 997 _______ __ 42 354 _______ 29 011 ________ 10 656 _______ dmo = DLiRium
__5 870 ____ __ 836 014 _____ 19 397 _______ 1 237 001 ______ 400 987 ________ 58 266 _______ Drsignguy
__5 907 _____ 1 159 774 ______ 5 106 _______ 1 310 446 ______ 150 672 ________ 17 910 _______ Foxery
_65 769 ____ 15 196 034 _____ 73 351 ______ 16 822 509 __ __ 1 626 475 _______ 239 397 _______ Gravity
_14 646 _____ 2 137 843 _____ 14 994 _______ 2 508 294 ______ 370 451 ________ 47 541 _______ jonesthewine
__3 855 ____ __ 701 617 ______ 3 743 _______ _ 810 282 ______ 108 665 ________ 12 812 _______ m1ldslide1
_17 671 _____ 1 953 799 _____ 22 137 _______ 2 449 303 ______ 495 504 ________ 81 104 _______ MaskedAvenger = mike9o
_____ 0 ____ __ 629 388 _____ ____ 0 _______ _ 635 775 ________ 6 387 _________ ___ 0 _______ paulnt04 = PCTC2
__5 382 _____ 1 730 509 _____ 13 290 _______ 2 083 888 ______ 353 379 ________ 33 888 _______ Pokey_TA
___ 239 _____ __ 13 862 _____ __ 984 _______ __ 29 683 _______ 15 821 _________ 3 655 _______ TA_andy
___ 957 _____ __ 12 657 ______ 2 036 _______ __ 57 069 _______ 44 412 _________ 6 913 _______ theAnimal
_____ 0 _____ ___ ___ 0 _____ ___ 32 _______ ___ 7 704 ________ 7 704 _________ _ 225 _______ winr
__5 510 _____ __ 34 764 ______ 8 629 _______ _ 283 203 ______ 248 439 ________ 30 756 _______ VirtualLarry
132 076 ____ 26 789 936 ____ 177 140 ______ 30 911 258 __ __ 4 121 322 _______ 580 127 _______ Sum for the Folders


TaAm AnandTech Sentinels (TAS)
ppd __________ points ________ ppd __________ points _________ points _______ points _________ Name
at start _______ at start ______ Dec.26 ________ Dec. 26 ________ in Dec. _____ past 3 days ______________
___ 274 _____ __ 33 556 _____ __ 250 _______ __ 53 163 _______ 19 607 _________ ___ 0 _______ Baldurs_Gate
_13 522 _____ 1 531 760 _____ 30 034 _______ 2 227 704 ______ 695 944 ________ 96 168 _______ biodoc
_____ 0 _____ ___ ___ 0 ______ 3 273 _______ __ 84 472 _______ 84 472 ________ 11 922 _______ Chocobo_Navy
__2 856 _____ 2 562 004 ______ 2 715 _______ 2 636 595 _______ 74 591 _________ 8 040 _______ GLeeM
__3 874 _____ 2 480 959 ______ 3 710 _______ 2 571 048 _______ 90 089 ________ 10 351 _______ Hurricane Andrew
_28 657 _____ 6 099 931 _____ 25 299 _______ 6 805 331 ______ 705 400 ________ 82 392 _______ Insidious
_10 971 _____ 2 018 284 _____ 13 508 _______ 2 358 070 ______ 339 786 ________ 43 010 _______ Lightstar
_52 968 ____ 12 408 074 _____ 71 920 ______ 13 992 622 __ __ 1 584 548 _______ 228 253 _______ Markfw900
__3 566 ____ __ 943 946 ______ 4 185 _______ 1 049 034 ______ 105 088 ________ 13 434 _______ Neurodog
_____ 0 _____ __ 25 758 ______ 1 939 _______ __ 65 730 _______ 39 972 _________ 4 452 _______ rabrittain
___ 949 ____ __ 446 828 ______ 1 627 _______ _ 488 607 _______ 41 779 _________ 3 853 _______ TAS-petrusbroder
__1 728 ____ __ 482 339 ______ 2 994 _______ _ 534 625 _______ 52 286 ________ 11 427 _______ Tom_Philippart
__6 773 _____ 2 082 441 ______ 7 472 _______ 2 278 121 ______ 195 680 ________ 23 828 _______ TurtleBlue
126 138 ____ 31 115 880 ____ 168 926 ______ 35 145 122 __ __ 4 029 242 _______ 537 130 _______ Sum for TAS



Difference between the Racing teams:
Day 1 ____ ______ 62 029 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 2 ____ ______ 10 423 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 3 ____ ______ 46 068 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 4 ____ ______ 23 849 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 5+6 ________ 42 885 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 7+8 ________ 65 377 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 9+10 _______ 17 732 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 11 ___ ______ 51 673 points ________ TAS wins this day!
Day 12+13 ______ 10 353 points ________ TAS wins the 2 days! Lightstar was moved to The Folders team
Day 14+15 ______ 10 568 points ________ TAS wins the 2 days! Lightstar was moved back to TAS team, Foxery and MaskedAvenger joined The Folders
Day 16-18 __ ____-77 471 points ________ The Folders win the 3 days!
Day 19-20 __ _____ 7 671 points ________ TAS wins the 2 days!
Day 21-23 __ ____-23 925 points ________ The Folders win the 2 days!
Day 24-26 __ ____-42 997 points ________ The Folders win the 3 days!
Difference: ______ 92 080 points ________ The Folders in the lead.

In the past 3 days the two teams produced 1 117 257 points! Well done!
In December, the two teams produced 8 150 564 points!


Individual production stats:
Production _______ Name - Team
1 626 475 ________ Gravity - The Folders
1 584 548 ________ Mark_F_Williams - TAS
_ 705 400 ________ Insidious - TAS
_ 695 944 ________ biodoc - TAS
_ 495 504 ________ MaskedAvenger - The Folders
_ 400 987 ________ Drsignguy - The Folders
_ 370 451 ________ jonesthewine - The Folders
_ 353 379 ________ Pokey_TA - The Folders
_ 339 786 ________ Lightstar_dj - The Folders
_ 248 439 ________ VirtualLarry - The Folders
_ 195 680 ________ TurtleBlue - TAS
_ 162 325 ________ Cutthroat - The Folders
_ 150 672 ________ Foxery - The Folders
_ 108 665 ________ m1ldslide1 - The Folders
_ 105 088 ________ Neurodog - TAS
__ 90 089 ________ Hurricane_Andrew - TAS
__ 85 989 ________ [TA]Assimilator1 - The Folders
__ 84 472 ________ Chocobo_Navy - TAS
__ 74 591 ________ GLeeM - TAS
__ 52 286 ________ Tom_Philippart - TAS
__ 44 412 ________ theAnimal - The Folders
__ 41 779 ________ TAS-petrusbroder - TAS
__ 39 972 ________ rabrittain - TAS
__ 29 011 ________ dmo - The Folders
__ 19 607 ________ Baldurs_Gate - TAS
__ 15 821 ________ TA_andy - The Folders
__ 15 101 ________ Alyx - The Folders
___ 7 704 ________ winr - The Folders
___ 6 387 ________ PCTC2 - The Folders
8 150 564 ________ All The TeAm Folders

 

[Markfw]

Thanks for the stats peter !

I sure am having bad luck, UPS lost my new 9800 GTX+ card, and Fedex still hasn't delivered my 260 card !

 

[Assimilator1]

Gutted!

Thanks for the stats Petrus

__ 85 989 ________ [TA]Assimilator1 - The Folders
__ 84 472 ________ Chocobo_Navy - TAS

Ooo just keeping ahead of you FMC