The 2008 Contractor Awards

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Gibson486

Lifer
Aug 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Originally posted by: roguerower
I can see the residential fuck ups happening, but any of those commercial ones would have been spotted and corrected ASAP. Even a new field engineer out of college (soon to be me) would scratch their head and know that something isn't quite right... let's build it anyway!

fixed.

yup. I deal with contractors everday. I am not surprised by some of these pics at all.....some of the sh!t contractors try to pull is just unbelieveable. You cannot leave anythign up to interpetation. If you do, you get those results.

You'd think that the field engineer would stop it or get it fixed. Nope. The problem lies in the bid process. If the contractor can convince a judge that the bid documents did not spec "blah blah blah", so they did "blah blah bump", the company who did the engineering will be in the wrong and they will foot the bill. I have seen this happen on numerous occasions. It doe snot matter if it is even common sense. Those bid documents are legal documents. The contractor jumps up for joy and screams "change order" while the engineering form says, "I am not footing that", and they just leave the project as is and make their quick buck.
 

Sea Moose

Diamond Member
May 12, 2009
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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Originally posted by: roguerower
I can see the residential fuck ups happening, but any of those commercial ones would have been spotted and corrected ASAP. Even a new field engineer out of college (soon to be me) would scratch their head and know that something isn't quite right... let's build it anyway!

fixed.

yup. I deal with contractors everday. I am not surprised by some of these pics at all.....some of the sh!t contractors try to pull is just unbelieveable. You cannot leave anythign up to interpetation. If you do, you get those results.

You'd think that the field engineer would stop it or get it fixed. Nope. The problem lies in the bid process. If the contractor can convince a judge that the bid documents did not spec "blah blah blah", so they did "blah blah bump", the company who did the engineering will be in the wrong and they will foot the bill. I have seen this happen on numerous occasions. It doe snot matter if it is even common sense. Those bid documents are legal documents. The contractor jumps up for joy and screams "change order" while the engineering form says, "I am not footing that", and they just leave the project as is and make their quick buck.

If work is done according to the plan, its the designer/draftsman/architect/engineers fault

if the work is not carried out according to plan, its the contractors fault.

I have found flaws in building plans before, and i got told off by a snobby architect that i was wrong rah rah rah, i did the work and lo and behold... It was wrong, i kept a copy of the plan to prove i was not at fault. The architect lost the job.