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so, after the very disappointing Civ 5 (where it's pointless to capture cities, you will *have* to raze them, thus incurring a near-permanent hate from that leader, so basically a permanent state of war), and the ridiculous Civ 6 one-unit-per-tile-max bullshit, i have gone back aaaaaaall the way to the best Civ - Civilization 4 Beyond The Sword.
You get Civ 4, Civ 4 BtS, Civ 4 .. uh something you dont want to play, and Civ 4 something that really sucks, all bundled in one cheap £11 pack (obv depends on when you buy it, it's at $20 now). Count them, FOUR games of which you will only play one, FOUR !
Basically you got your classic Civ 2 game, with some pretty darn big modifiers; Cities grow much more easily. You can build a shitton of units from any city you like, pretty much. Instead - and, im not saying it's a good thing - the game limits you on your expansion by ... just .. limiting your expansion. Each new city after X cities becomes a big money loser, so, uh, yeah, it's not really as straightofrward as Civ 2, but, if you want you Civ fix, this will do. All that needs doing is that you get past your Civ preconceptions; a city built in the desert won't have enough food, tis city cannot afford this many defenders, roads are an all-powerful solution to every problem, you know, BASIC civ stuff.
So yeah, you can't mess with a classic and expect to not f* it up, but hey, it's Civ 4, it's got better AI, it does its turns faster, and you get all dem pretty colours, n stuff.
I suggest immediately disabling the Mr Spok (yup, Leonard Mthf* Nimoy himself) spoken lines because they are so bad, they can haunt you forever, and then just havin a go atit. it's fairly easy when you realize that you can just spam Praetorians with 8! attack strength and rekk everyone else in the iron age, but the game really shines when you get to huge ass civilizations spanning half of the globe. I'm currently playing a Marathon (very slow, huge extra number of turns) game on a Huge, Earth-based map with the Womans (harr harr, Monthy Python joke), have just gotten off from fighting a war with the silly Chinese, who are bigger and stronger in production, but they take foreeeeeeever to just walk from their side of the map to mine. I made the Egyptian queen my B*** (vassal state) so they both watch my back and guarantee they will not attack me, and i got to Astronomy way before anyone else so i'm just colonizing just about all of north AND south america before my big, WW2, tanks-based steamroll of everyone else.
(playing Noble difficulty)
TLDR - Civ 4 is pretty good.
You get Civ 4, Civ 4 BtS, Civ 4 .. uh something you dont want to play, and Civ 4 something that really sucks, all bundled in one cheap £11 pack (obv depends on when you buy it, it's at $20 now). Count them, FOUR games of which you will only play one, FOUR !
Basically you got your classic Civ 2 game, with some pretty darn big modifiers; Cities grow much more easily. You can build a shitton of units from any city you like, pretty much. Instead - and, im not saying it's a good thing - the game limits you on your expansion by ... just .. limiting your expansion. Each new city after X cities becomes a big money loser, so, uh, yeah, it's not really as straightofrward as Civ 2, but, if you want you Civ fix, this will do. All that needs doing is that you get past your Civ preconceptions; a city built in the desert won't have enough food, tis city cannot afford this many defenders, roads are an all-powerful solution to every problem, you know, BASIC civ stuff.
So yeah, you can't mess with a classic and expect to not f* it up, but hey, it's Civ 4, it's got better AI, it does its turns faster, and you get all dem pretty colours, n stuff.
I suggest immediately disabling the Mr Spok (yup, Leonard Mthf* Nimoy himself) spoken lines because they are so bad, they can haunt you forever, and then just havin a go atit. it's fairly easy when you realize that you can just spam Praetorians with 8! attack strength and rekk everyone else in the iron age, but the game really shines when you get to huge ass civilizations spanning half of the globe. I'm currently playing a Marathon (very slow, huge extra number of turns) game on a Huge, Earth-based map with the Womans (harr harr, Monthy Python joke), have just gotten off from fighting a war with the silly Chinese, who are bigger and stronger in production, but they take foreeeeeeever to just walk from their side of the map to mine. I made the Egyptian queen my B*** (vassal state) so they both watch my back and guarantee they will not attack me, and i got to Astronomy way before anyone else so i'm just colonizing just about all of north AND south america before my big, WW2, tanks-based steamroll of everyone else.
(playing Noble difficulty)
TLDR - Civ 4 is pretty good.