That "I" before "E", except after "C" rule is pretty null and void.

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I don't even think of that rule when spelling, I normally just think back into my memory banks. :)
If I'm on the computer, I'll just go to Dictionary.com or something, but most of the time I remember.
 

zugzoog

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There is nothing like teaching your child how to speak to reveal some of the idiotic exceptions in the English language. This is one of them.

A couple of the other bugbears are plurals (why do not all plurals end in s (or es) eg. fish) and the adjective "-ed" (why is it " I caught the ball" instead of "I catched the ball"?).

English needs an overhaul, but on the bright side at least we don't have gender based nouns like the romantic languages.

 

Injury

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Or you could just learn to spell without rhymes to help you. That works pretty well.
 

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English really is a bastard language. Historically it's a mix of latin, germanic, celtic and french.

It has so little consistency compared to latin based languages. I've always sucked at English in grade school but I did so well in Spanish because it, like math, was pretty much consistent in verb conjugations. The only thing that was annoying was feminine/masculine words. That's just as random as English.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Oh thank god, I thought I was just insane. :(
:thumbsup:

Likewise. As some one who can't spell, I often fall back on that rule in some feeble effort to create words. It usually leaves me more fvcked than when I started.
 

Psyber

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Originally posted by: mjrand
Here's the full rule.

Use i before e except after c or when sounded like a as in neighbor or weigh; and except seize and seizure and also leisure, weird, height, and either, forfeit, and neither.

That rhyme is supposed to help us remember spelling? What helps us remember the long frickin rhyme itself?
 

thesurge

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Originally posted by: mjrand
Here's the full rule.

Use i before e except after c or when sounded like a as in neighbor or weigh; and except seize and seizure and also leisure, weird, height, and either, forfeit, and neither.

What about seismic? and prescient? and society? and conscience?
 

jalaram

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This is the internet. Nobody is expected to spell correctly. ATOT is proof of that.

 

Kev

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It's I before E, expect after C or when sounding like ay as in neighbor and weigh. And on weekends, and holidays, and all throughout May, and you'll always be wrong, no matter what you say!

Doh, someone beat me to it, but screwed up the quote, so I win.
 

Tiamat

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Originally posted by: mjrand
Here's the full rule.

Use i before e except after c or when sounded like a as in neighbor or weigh; and except seize and seizure and also leisure, weird, height, and either, forfeit, and neither.

Sweet. :thumbsup:
 

thesurge

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Originally posted by: Tiamat
Originally posted by: mjrand
Here's the full rule.

Use i before e except after c or when sounded like a as in neighbor or weigh; and except seize and seizure and also leisure, weird, height, and either, forfeit, and neither.

Sweet. :thumbsup:

There are so many though, you probably type them everyday:

sovereign, foreign... protein.
 

JustAnAverageGuy

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Originally posted by: mjrand
Here's the full rule.

Use i before e except after c or when sounded like a as in neighbor or weigh; and except seize and seizure and also leisure, weird, height, and either, forfeit, and neither.

Explain SCIENCE
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: Kev
It's I before E, expect after C or when sounding like ay as in neighbor and weigh. And on weekends, and holidays, and all throughout May, and you'll always be wrong, no matter what you say!

Doh, someone beat me to it, but screwed up the quote, so I win.

Haha - oh wait that was me... :(

hey, but at least I saw him live last week! :D

Brian, what's the plural of Moose?

MOOSEN!
 

Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: Maetryx
Weird Science

yeah, those two always pissed me off because they don't follow the rule or any of the odd exceptions listed after