Thanks!

[Nutdotnet]

To everyone who gave honest and mature opinions, thanks, I appreciate you guys putting it in perspective.

To the others who think the internet is where you can talk down to people just because you can't see them...grow up.

 

[nakedfrog]

Kinda sounds like you DO care about the money.
Anyway, suck it up and get on with life.

 

[LS20]

since you are essentially the HR director, fire her and absorb her salary?

 

[Drako]

I thought HR people worked for free? j/k

But seriously, if it bugs you that much look for another job. If you like the job, don't let your ego get in the way, and just deal with it.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Kinda sounds like you DO care about the money.
Anyway, suck it up and get on with life.

I figured some people wouldn't be able to comprehend...

The money isn't what I care about...it's what the change in salary did to my perception of our department.

If I could choose between my old salary and feeling valued, and my new salary and feeling like this...I'd take the former in a heartbeat...and my new salary is significantly higher than my old.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: LS20
since you are essentially the HR director, fire her and absorb her salary?

Haha...RIGHT...it was the best way I could describe it since I take on my boss' HR duties while she is out, which is quite a bit.

 

[JoeKing]

wait for her to finish spinning up on all the processes then share with her more of the responsibilities. If you don't like that start actively searching for another job and resign after you've secured one.

something you're going to learn especially within the admin field, unfortunately exp > edu.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: JoeKing
wait for her to finish spinning up on all the processes then share with her more of the responsibilities. If you don't like that start actively searching for another job and resign after you've secured one.

something you're going to learn especially within the admin field, unfortunately exp > edu.

Yeah...you're right...just took me by complete surprise...I was under the impression (through discussions and all that) that I was on the fast-trak of actually taking over this department.

Now it feels like that was a load of BS...heck...

Yup...new job for me! Thanks man.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Kinda sounds like you DO care about the money.
Anyway, suck it up and get on with life.

I figured some people wouldn't be able to comprehend...

The money isn't what I care about...it's what the change in salary did to my perception of our department.

If I could choose between my old salary and feeling valued, and my new salary and feeling like this...I'd take the former in a heartbeat...and my new salary is significantly higher than my old.

And you felt valued because of the power? Effectively having the powers of a VP with only 2-3 years of experience? Are you doing the same thing you were doing before or not?

 

[MrPickins]

This is why it's a bad idea to know your coworkers' salaries.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Kinda sounds like you DO care about the money.
Anyway, suck it up and get on with life.

I figured some people wouldn't be able to comprehend...

The money isn't what I care about...it's what the change in salary did to my perception of our department.

If I could choose between my old salary and feeling valued, and my new salary and feeling like this...I'd take the former in a heartbeat...and my new salary is significantly higher than my old.

And you felt valued because of the power? Effectively having the powers of a VP with only 2-3 years of experience? Are you doing the same thing you were doing before or not?

In a nutshell...yes. Not all the same powers, but since we were the only two in the department, when she would go out of town, I'd assume her signing authority...for everything. People came to me when there was an HR problem that needed HER attention, so on and so forth. When we expanded into Admin I would be the acting-supervisor while she was out. I would take care of all the problems, leave requests, timesheets, so on and so forth.

So the "acting" role come out of necessity, but I think I did well enough to warrant it to be there, even after the change.

I don't know how my role is changing, if it is, it feels weird though because I don't feel like that #2.

So yes, I did feel valued because I was relied upon...now I don't feel like I'm needed.

 

[JoeKing]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: JoeKing
wait for her to finish spinning up on all the processes then share with her more of the responsibilities. If you don't like that start actively searching for another job and resign after you've secured one.

something you're going to learn especially within the admin field, unfortunately exp > edu.

Yeah...you're right...just took me by complete surprise...I was under the impression (through discussions and all that) that I was on the fast-trak of actually taking over this department.

Now it feels like that was a load of BS...heck...

Yup...new job for me! Thanks man.

on the other hand you can look at it like you are almost as valuable as someone with 10+ years in the HR field taking only 3 years to get there. If a VP slot is what you're hoping for you might want to hold onto the job.

As time goes on you'll be gaining experience on top of the degree you already have.

It's all about perspective. Is she acting any differently after the restructure? Do you just not like her?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Kinda sounds like you DO care about the money.
Anyway, suck it up and get on with life.

I figured some people wouldn't be able to comprehend...

The money isn't what I care about...it's what the change in salary did to my perception of our department.

If I could choose between my old salary and feeling valued, and my new salary and feeling like this...I'd take the former in a heartbeat...and my new salary is significantly higher than my old.

And you felt valued because of the power? Effectively having the powers of a VP with only 2-3 years of experience? Are you doing the same thing you were doing before or not?

In a nutshell...yes. Not all the same powers, but since we were the only two in the department, when she would go out of town, I'd assume her signing authority...for everything. People came to me when there was an HR problem that needed HER attention, so on and so forth. When we expanded into Admin I would be the acting-supervisor while she was out. I would take care of all the problems, leave requests, timesheets, so on and so forth.

So the "acting" role come out of necessity, but I think I did well enough to warrant it to be there, even after the change.

I don't know how my role is changing, if it is, it feels weird though because I don't feel like that #2.

So yes, I did feel valued because I was relied upon...now I don't feel like I'm needed.

So absolutely nothing has changed yet except titles and salaries, and you feel like you're no longer needed?

To me it sounds like you thought you were better than her because you had a college degree (even against her 10 years of experience) and your salary reinforced that.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: MrPickins
This is why it's a bad idea to know your coworkers' salaries.

Bad for companies, good for employees?

If you just go along with what they give you, they can get away with paying you less. Yes, sometimes finding out something sucks, but then knowing that I've been underpaid has boosted my salary before.

 

[MrWizzard]

Originally posted by: JoeKing
wait for her to finish spinning up on all the processes then share with her more of the responsibilities. If you don't like that start actively searching for another job and resign after you've secured one.

something you're going to learn especially within the admin field, unfortunately exp > edu.

Ding ding ding. That?s why it bugs me whenever I see someone toting their education around like it makes them better than someone who has been in the industry a while.

Don't get me wrong a good education is a good thing. Just not for everyone.

Nutdotnet don't feel bad about being paid less. I currently manage 7 people and all but 2 of them get paid more than me. I am on the track where it pays off in the long run.... like when I hit 30 or something.

 

[Doodoo]

I'd probably feel the same way if i were you. Not sure what you can do about it though. Its rough when someone you're training makes more than you.

Like MrPickins said...thats why its a bad idea to know your coworker's salaries...though everyone is always curious. I talked to a lady here that use to work in HR and she said that was the worse part of the job...knowing everyone's salary and then looking at her own.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: JoeKing

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: JoeKing
wait for her to finish spinning up on all the processes then share with her more of the responsibilities. If you don't like that start actively searching for another job and resign after you've secured one.

something you're going to learn especially within the admin field, unfortunately exp > edu.

Yeah...you're right...just took me by complete surprise...I was under the impression (through discussions and all that) that I was on the fast-trak of actually taking over this department.

Now it feels like that was a load of BS...heck...

Yup...new job for me! Thanks man.

on the other hand you can look at it like you are almost as valuable as someone with 10+ years in the HR field taking only 3 years to get there. If a VP slot is what you're hoping for you might want to hold onto the job.

As time goes on you'll be gaining experience on top of the degree you already have.

It's all about perspective. Is she acting any differently after the restructure? Do you just not like her?

This is a good point. Your frame of mind could be tricking you into thinking you got screwed when really it's nothing of the sort. You are obviously appreciated AND needed because you still have a job AND you got a raise. I'd be happy about that, but still somewhat disappointed by feeling like number 3. However, I would get over it and try to do a good job to prove I'm worth more, less experience or not. Don't quit.

 

[MrWizzard]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: MrPickins
This is why it's a bad idea to know your coworkers' salaries.

Bad for companies, good for employees?

If you just go along with what they give you, they can get away with paying you less. Yes, sometimes finding out something sucks, but then knowing that I've been underpaid has boosted my salary before.

I have yet to see when it has been good to know others salaries, because everyone will compare and think they are better than such and such person and then be unhappy with what they get paid. Single employees rarely know the whole story just their side of it.

 

[imported_Baloo]

OP, you are new to your field. Don't expect to move right to the top. Your boss's experience is far more valuable then you give credit. Nobody is shafting you here, you got promoted and a raise in spite of your lack of experience, so clearly they see value in you.

 

[MrPickins]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: MrPickins
This is why it's a bad idea to know your coworkers' salaries.

Bad for companies, good for employees?

If you just go along with what they give you, they can get away with paying you less. Yes, sometimes finding out something sucks, but then knowing that I've been underpaid has boosted my salary before.

It almost always stirs up problems for both sides in my experience.

Edit: Pretty much what MrWizzard explained.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: JoeKing

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: JoeKing
wait for her to finish spinning up on all the processes then share with her more of the responsibilities. If you don't like that start actively searching for another job and resign after you've secured one.

something you're going to learn especially within the admin field, unfortunately exp > edu.

Yeah...you're right...just took me by complete surprise...I was under the impression (through discussions and all that) that I was on the fast-trak of actually taking over this department.

Now it feels like that was a load of BS...heck...

Yup...new job for me! Thanks man.

on the other hand you can look at it like you are almost as valuable as someone with 10+ years in the HR field taking only 3 years to get there. If a VP slot is what you're hoping for you might want to hold onto the job.

As time goes on you'll be gaining experience on top of the degree you already have.

It's all about perspective. Is she acting any differently after the restructure? Do you just not like her?

yeap. only way to look at it.


i can understand her getting a higher pay. she has been there 10 years (loyalty bonus) and knows her job. you have been there 3 years but a degree.

to me the 10 years is much better.



if you really do not like it quit. though i think it would be a bad decision.

 

[Chryso]

Are you making more or less than you were before?

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Kinda sounds like you DO care about the money.
Anyway, suck it up and get on with life.

I figured some people wouldn't be able to comprehend...

The money isn't what I care about...it's what the change in salary did to my perception of our department.

If I could choose between my old salary and feeling valued, and my new salary and feeling like this...I'd take the former in a heartbeat...and my new salary is significantly higher than my old.

And you felt valued because of the power? Effectively having the powers of a VP with only 2-3 years of experience? Are you doing the same thing you were doing before or not?

In a nutshell...yes. Not all the same powers, but since we were the only two in the department, when she would go out of town, I'd assume her signing authority...for everything. People came to me when there was an HR problem that needed HER attention, so on and so forth. When we expanded into Admin I would be the acting-supervisor while she was out. I would take care of all the problems, leave requests, timesheets, so on and so forth.

So the "acting" role come out of necessity, but I think I did well enough to warrant it to be there, even after the change.

I don't know how my role is changing, if it is, it feels weird though because I don't feel like that #2.

So yes, I did feel valued because I was relied upon...now I don't feel like I'm needed.

So absolutely nothing has changed yet except titles and salaries, and you feel like you're no longer needed?

To me it sounds like you thought you were better than her because you had a college degree (even against her 10 years of experience) and your salary reinforced that.

Nope, you're wrong. My education doesn't amount to much vs. her 10 yrs HR xperience.

I am "better" than her in THIS job because THIS is my job...and has been for the past 2 years. My title may have changed but my duties have not. Her title AND duties changed. She was brought up to my level and over it.

So yes, I feel I am better than her at doing this job, but it's nothing negative against her, it's because I've been doing THIS job for much longer....

My co-worker and I get along great.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: Doodoo
I'd probably feel the same way if i were you. Not sure what you can do about it though. Its rough when someone you're training makes more than you.

Like MrPickins said...thats why its a bad idea to know your coworker's salaries...though everyone is always curious. I talked to a lady here that use to work in HR and she said that was the worse part of the job...knowing everyone's salary and then looking at her own.

Yup...that's the trouble with working in HR...even if our boss didn't tell us the change we would have found out...we see everyone's wage information.

 

[teclis1023]

I think it's perfectly fine to feel that you've been undercut, and to feel that you're valued less. Whether this is the reality or not is a completely different story, but it's your feelings we're talking about here.

As for moving to a different job, would you be able to reap the same amount of money at another job? In the long term, would you be happier, or do you think that your dissatisfaction is temporary?

Moving to another job is a serious thing, but one that is appropriate if you truly feel horrible about this. If you are able to secure a different job for more money, then it might be worth it, but I wouldn't go to a different job if you're going to take a pay cut, or remain the same. Your reputation as an employee is also at stake here.

The question is - is this a good company to work for? You were promoted, which seems promising, and you're relatively high up on the food chain, which is also quite nice. Resigning out of protest seems a bit petty, but you have to do what you feel is right.