Thanks, Obama! Its your fault for creating Donald Trump!

compuwiz1

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You can be assured the Trump phenomenon is based upon electorate outrage at the Obama administration, as well as the rest of the establishment, where both parties pretty much did what Obama wanted. 2014 mid terms resulted in the GOP controlling both houses of congress and it was as though nothing changed. Hell yeah, it's time for a shake up.
 

HamburgerBoy

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I don't see how you can blame Obama for Trump. Sanders, maybe; he's the protest vote for the Democrats. Trump is the product of isolationist, anti-immigration Republicans being ignored over the last couple decades.
 

ivwshane

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Yep! Trump simply didn't exist politically until Obama was elected!

/s
 

woolfe9998

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I rather like Jindal's theory, that we elect the opposite of the current sitting POTUS. Which means that if we are foolish enough to elect basically any of the current GOP nominees, at least we can console ourselves knowing the next POTUS after that will probably one of the greatest we've ever had.
 

SP33Demon

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I don't see how you can blame Obama for Trump. Sanders, maybe; he's the protest vote for the Democrats. Trump is the product of isolationist, anti-immigration Republicans being ignored over the last couple decades.
Don't forget a majority who has been terrorized by PC people who support affirmative action. They are fed up with the BS and you should be too.
 

ivwshane

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Don't forget a majority who has been terrorized by PC people who support affirmative action. They are fed up with the BS and you should be too.

I don't think you know what the word terrorized means. Then again, I don't think you know what a lot of things mean.
 

lopri

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If the Duck loses, will it be Obama's fault? If the Duck wins, will Obama be credited?

These people are analytically challenged and conflate two different things.

And this is a pure comedy.

“I believe that voters tend to act in open-seat presidential elections to correct for the perceived deficiencies of the incumbent,” argues Jindal, “After seven years of the cool, weak and endlessly nuanced ‘no drama Obama,’ voters are looking for a strong leader who speaks in short, declarative sentences.”

So they resent that Obama is cool-headed. As if they would have loved Obama if he were hot-headed, hah.
 

trenchfoot

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Obama's fault? I knew this, I knew it all along. But then, I would rather describe his creating Trump as a beneficial thing, an enormous credit to him, as it were.

Why, if it weren't for all of the Repub pundits and power brokers who financed and promulgated the wildly successful (expensive) hate and fear filled propaganda campaign against Obama, who of course, was the inspiration of and for such a thorough indoctrination process, we'd all be that much less aware of how efficiently they (the shadow gov't) are at running the country via not so discretely but generously so, dispensing cash, threats and lies.

Obama, through the inspired and elegantly deployed campaign to discredit and malign him, spawned the will and desire of a certain demographic to unpredictably heed the call of the conditioning process they were so willing to get addicted to in such a perfectly hateful way.

This response, this wickedly inspired declaration of war against Obama and his horde of muslim commie gun grabbing baby-aborting insurrectionists needed a leader that was highly qualified in this particular type of war, this war where innuendo, lies and mind-fucking kills without killing, that destroys lives just as efficiently as a neutron bomb would.

Bibbity bobbity, alakazam, presto-change-o, voila! The one person who was perfectly able and willing to appease the will of that army, who immaculately fit the job description, came in through the back door, beguiled this army into his influence and is now holding them hostage against the folks who inadvertently hired him for the job.

Perfection manifested in the form of a shape shifter.

He looks marvelous....simply maaaar-velous.
 
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He's Bush's fault. TARP lit the fuse on a populist revolt in 2008. That and everything leading up to it gave us President Obama (also Bush's fault). Which the Republican establishment used to astroturf the Tea Party. Who they were able to steer enough to insure nothing (well, not enough) changed. The rest of the revolt grew and fizzled into Occupy Wall St. Now it's starting to come together behind Trump and Bernie. Like OWS, Bernie is fizzling. Like the Tea Party, Trump is stubbornly enduring.
 

cubby1223

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I don't see how you can blame Obama for Trump. Sanders, maybe; he's the protest vote for the Democrats. Trump is the product of isolationist, anti-immigration Republicans being ignored over the last couple decades.

Obama is not to blame for Sanders. Unless Obama was the one who strong-armed the Dems into not putting up a descent candidate to run against Hillary.
 

SP33Demon

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FaaR

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It's time to put an end to this shit by votingTrump.
Lol, okay, if you think voting a documented compulsive, pathological liar into the white house is a good idea then you deserve to have your right to vote taken away from you for the good of the american nation.

The one thing Trump has going for him is that he isn't political establishment - that makes him more qualified to rule HOW exactly? He's got no sense of diplomacy, he's obviously not all that bright (he's bankrupted a casino and been bailed out - twice even IIRC - and his "university" was a deliberate sham and scam that went down the crapper, just to mention a few.) Can you imagine this guy in international negotiations? I don't even want to think how bad it would be.

Hint: you can't fire the heads of states of other countries just because you don't like them.
 

feralkid

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both parties pretty much did what Obama wanted.




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Jhhnn

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Republican's trickle down economic policy created Trump. The denial among the base is utterly astounding, of course, because they can't bring themselves to admit that they've screwed themselves by believing in it for decades beginning with Reagan.

Given the freedom to do what they want, it turns out that what the job creators really want is cheaper labor & bigger profits, none of which includes hiring Americans any more than absolutely necessary. It does include paying off Repub politicians to protect their privilege in very big ways, sponsoring a variety of distractions & tearing down the very idea of a Government of the People.

The bailout energized them, no doubt, but only in a superficial way. It didn't energize them enough to figure out how it came to that & why it was utterly necessary. Hell, they can't even figure out that the bailout was engineered by their heroes in the Bush Admin or that the Donald has been bailed out repeatedly by bankruptcy laws.
 
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SP33Demon

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Lol, okay, if you think voting a documented compulsive, pathological liar into the white house is a good idea then you deserve to have your right to vote taken away from you for the good of the american nation.

The one thing Trump has going for him is that he isn't political establishment - that makes him more qualified to rule HOW exactly? He's got no sense of diplomacy, he's obviously not all that bright (he's bankrupted a casino and been bailed out - twice even IIRC - and his "university" was a deliberate sham and scam that went down the crapper, just to mention a few.) Can you imagine this guy in international negotiations? I don't even want to think how bad it would be.

Hint: you can't fire the heads of states of other countries just because you don't like them.
He's made hundreds of companies successful that you don't hear about. You only parrot his few failures because the media owns you. Think for yourself for once and go look up Grand Hyatt Hotel on East 42nd Street, the Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue, and Trump Plaza on 61st and Third Avenue.
 

Subyman

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Don't forget a majority who has been terrorized by PC people who support affirmative action. They are fed up with the BS and you should be too.

I think you are on the right track. I think its a reaction by a mostly white (probably mostly male too) population that feels angry at the over examination of everything they do. Man spreading, micro aggressions, flags being put in store houses, cops being devalued, white privilege, and on and on. How many things that are a core part of your identity can you be told is incorrect before there is a breaking point? In its most base form, it is the reaction of power being lost.

Those are only the social aspects. When it begins to become part of your reality in the form of low wages, agism, and a feeling of not progressing the way America promised you would then we start to form a movement.

America has changed a lot socially since the 1980s. This is a reaction back.
 

Indus

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Those are only the social aspects. When it begins to become part of your reality in the form of low wages, agism, and a feeling of not progressing the way America promised you would then we start to form a movement.

America has changed a lot socially since the 1980s. This is a reaction back.

Why are they supporting Trump then? Sounds retarded because of him clearly saying wages are too high.

Is this a case of grabbing a bazooka to kill a fly instead of a flyswatter?
 

HomerJS

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Its more the fault of Fox News. They gave him unlimited political airtime to peddle his birther bullshit and the peeps ate it up
 

FaaR

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He's made hundreds of companies successful that you don't hear about.
Dude, the easiest thing in the world is being rich and getting richer when you were already born rich with a silver spoon up your ass. I'm supposed to be impressed he's making money when he started off with his dad's millions and a rollodex full of contacts of other rich business people?

None of what he does is any particular function of him being awesome; it's just an expression of a fucked-up society that disproportionally rewards the already rich, and Drumpf wants to lower your wages and lower taxes for himself, and you cheer him on? Unbelievable. Lol.

But he pointed and said it's all those dirty smelly mexicans' fault, and like a dupe you turned your head and looked the other way. Just for giggles here, who else in history blamed some minority for the woes of society? How well did that work out in the end? :p

You only parrot his few failures because the media owns you.
Lol, right. The "evil media". I should just get all my news from Drumpf Agitprop<TM> like you then? I'll get right on to that!

Think for yourself for once and go look up Grand Hyatt Hotel on East 42nd Street, the Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue, and Trump Plaza on 61st and Third Avenue.
Think for myself? You point out a few successes instead of the long string of fails he's had as if that portrays the guy as some kind of a business genius, when it's well known if Drumpf had just dumped his starting pot into an index fund he would have been far richer now than he actually is. Much of his wealth comes from him simply renting out his name for others to use, how fricken hard is it to just collect a share of someone else's revenue, seriously?

How many things that are a core part of your identity can you be told is incorrect before there is a breaking point?
When your identity is based on BS and the institutionalized, wholesale oppression of other people, why shouldn't you be told it's incorrect?

Those are only the social aspects. When it begins to become part of your reality in the form of low wages, agism, and a feeling of not progressing the way America promised you would then we start to form a movement.
You are aware tho that the low wages and not progressing is because of Reagan's trickledownomics that have been suppressing the middle class in favor of the rich for over 30 years now, yes? (Actually this downturn started before Reagan, but that guy made things vastly worse with his deliberate policies to stab the middle class in the back.)

America has changed a lot socially since the 1980s. This is a reaction back.
It's a reaction back? How? By electing a billionaire president?

You'd stand a better chance at affecting deep change of society by electing a burger-flipper from McDonald's than a guy who has everything vested in maintaining current status quo. You think Drumpf cares about you or your middling economic woes? He's too busy admiring how awesome he is and dreaming of how much money he and his wealthy friends are gonna make after he's been elected president.

What in his economic policy - what little of it there is - stands out in your opinion in the way of turning back the socio-economic clock, is it the lower taxes for the rich maybe?
 

CitizenKain

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He's made hundreds of companies successful that you don't hear about. You only parrot his few failures because the media owns you. Think for yourself for once and go look up Grand Hyatt Hotel on East 42nd Street, the Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue, and Trump Plaza on 61st and Third Avenue.

Its funny seeing a little Trump parrot tell others to think for themselves. How about that fake college he ran? Or do you just ignore that because you aren't smart enough to think for yourself?