Thank you Microsoft

[Aharami]

So my understanding is that you have to do an upgrade install to windows 10, and then you can do a clean install?

yea. see below
http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/31/9077997/microsoft-windows-10-clean-install-how-to-guide

 

[AdamK47]

There seems to be a lot of bandwagoning of praise for Windows 10. I doubt these people are truly being objective, or even care to be. I find there to be a lot of uncomfortable faults with Windows 10. It's hard to believe that real enthusiasts agree with the forced update, protection, and nanny rules with this OS. Perhaps turning off the brain and forgetting about what goes on behind the scenes fills that appeasement. The superficial gleam doesn't work for me.

 

[disappoint]

There seems to be a lot of bandwagoning of praise for Windows 10. I doubt these people are truly being objective, or even care to be. I find there to be a lot of uncomfortable faults with Windows 10. It's hard to believe that real enthusiasts agree with the forced update, protection, and nanny rules with this OS. Perhaps turning off the brain and forgetting about what goes on behind the scenes fills that appeasement. The superficial gleam doesn't work for me.

It's just tradition. Traditionally people hate/like every other release of Windows. They hated Vista, liked 7, hated 8, like 10. They will hate the next release whether there is anything wrong with it or not, and they will like the one after that whether it has problems or not. Every Windows has had some problems and some good parts to it.

 

[Eug]

It's just tradition. Traditionally people hate/like every other release of Windows. They hated Vista, liked 7, hated 8, like 10. They will hate the next release whether there is anything wrong with it or not, and they will like the one after that whether it has problems or not. Every Windows has had some problems and some good parts to it.

Vista sucked. Windows 8 sucked. The hate was largely MS's fault. Now some of that hatred was over the top, but still, I'd say most of the hatred was deserved.

Windows 7 was a huge improvement over Vista. Similarly Windows 10 is a huge improvement over 8.0.

There seems to be a lot of bandwagoning of praise for Windows 10. I doubt these people are truly being objective, or even care to be. I find there to be a lot of uncomfortable faults with Windows 10. It's hard to believe that real enthusiasts agree with the forced update, protection, and nanny rules with this OS. Perhaps turning off the brain and forgetting about what goes on behind the scenes fills that appeasement. The superficial gleam doesn't work for me.

Overall, I quite like Win 10.

The thing I hate most about Windows 10 (besides the niggling bugs in this early release version) is the fact that the invasive privacy features are on by default. They should be off by default.

As for the updates, I am sort of used to it since on Windows I usually update everything anyway, and on OS X, the updates get packaged together as point releases so something like 10.7 would have 5 "service packs" over the year, not thousands of individual updates like on Windows.

So, weighing the plusses and minuses, I'd say for Win 10 the plusses outweigh the minuses for me for home (not enterprise) use, whereas for something like Windows Vista, the minuses far outweighed the plusses.

 

[Gunbuster]

Windows 10 is working great on my personal devices. I'm counting down the days until Microsoft announces the Surface Pro 4 and I can junk this POS Dell Latitude E6440 at work. Ugg windows 7 and a spinning HDD are terrible. The mouse will literally stop moving as it bangs away with drive access for seconds at a time.

 

[SparkyJJO]

There seems to be a lot of bandwagoning of praise for Windows 10. I doubt these people are truly being objective, or even care to be. I find there to be a lot of uncomfortable faults with Windows 10. It's hard to believe that real enthusiasts agree with the forced update, protection, and nanny rules with this OS. Perhaps turning off the brain and forgetting about what goes on behind the scenes fills that appeasement. The superficial gleam doesn't work for me.

So, people who hold a different opinion from you can't be objective huh?

I have no opinion since I have not run Win10 yet, but the whole "if others don't hold my opinion they are wrong" mentality from either side just bothers me.

 

[ControlD]

I am really liking Windows 10 on my main desktop. It SUCKS on my tablet however. It barely even feels like a beta release on touch devices.

 

[ControlD]

There seems to be a lot of bandwagoning of praise for Windows 10. I doubt these people are truly being objective, or even care to be. I find there to be a lot of uncomfortable faults with Windows 10. It's hard to believe that real enthusiasts agree with the forced update, protection, and nanny rules with this OS. Perhaps turning off the brain and forgetting about what goes on behind the scenes fills that appeasement. The superficial gleam doesn't work for me.

It is fast, stable and runs all of my applications. That pretty much covers my main criteria for any operating system (which is how I felt about Windows 8.0/8.1 as well). If you work in corporate America chances are you live with forced updates anyhow. It doesn't really bother me that much honestly. I haven't had a Windows update break anything on my main rig anytime in recent memory anyhow.

 

[Ns1]

I am really liking Windows 10 on my main desktop. It SUCKS on my tablet however. It barely even feels like a beta release on touch devices.

yeah win10 fucked up the touch aspect on my SP2 BAD.

 

[ControlD]

yeah win10 fucked up the touch aspect on my SP2 BAD.

I believe it. I can also almost get 6 hours of STANDBY time on my Dell VP8 right now. I can pretty much forget about actually using it for anything. I also have no way of going back to 8.1, so I guess I'm the stupid one there.

 

[MongGrel]

There seems to be a lot of bandwagoning of praise for Windows 10. I doubt these people are truly being objective, or even care to be. I find there to be a lot of uncomfortable faults with Windows 10. It's hard to believe that real enthusiasts agree with the forced update, protection, and nanny rules with this OS. Perhaps turning off the brain and forgetting about what goes on behind the scenes fills that appeasement. The superficial gleam doesn't work for me.

Why would it be bandwagoning ?

I've been using it for months on my main, have it on two now.

You either like it or you don't, if you don't so be it.

I like it, but I do not own a tablet either I guess, both are desktops.

 

[SparkyJJO]

I believe it. I can also almost get 6 hours of STANDBY time on my Dell VP8 right now. I can pretty much forget about actually using it for anything. I also have no way of going back to 8.1, so I guess I'm the stupid one there.

Did you not do the upgrade over top of 8.1?

 

[ControlD]

Did you not do the upgrade over top of 8.1?

I did, but when I choose to go back to Windows 8.1 I get the message "The files required have been removed from your PC". I probably didn't have enough free space when I made the upgrade.

I'll come up with something. It's going to require some beer I think.

 

[Nebor]

I did, but when I choose to go back to Windows 8.1 I get the message "The files required have been removed from your PC". I probably didn't have enough free space when I made the upgrade.

I'll come up with something. It's going to require some beer I think.

If you pour it in the USB 3.0 port as opposed to the USB 2.0 port it'll absorb the alcohol faster. And once you get enough alcohol in it, you can pretty insert whatever you want in any of the ports.

 

[jlee]

What does Windows 10 do better than Windows 7 does?

DirectX 12.

 

[ControlD]

If you pour it in the USB 3.0 port as opposed to the USB 2.0 port it'll absorb the alcohol faster. And once you get enough alcohol in it, you can pretty insert whatever you want in any of the ports.

LOL. I hope I don't have to marry it when I am finished.

 

[Phoenix86]

And once you get enough alcohol in it, you can pretty insert whatever you want in any of the ports.

Calm down, Cosby.

😛

 

[lamedude]

if (osName.startsWith("Windows 9") exists.

 

[Red Squirrel]

if (osName.startsWith("Windows 9") exists.

:awe:

 

[FalangaMKD]

DirectX 12.

I mean, who the hell needs DirectX12?
Children probably?

Needless to say, Windows 10 does nothing IMPORTANT better than Windows 7.

 

[purbeast0]

if (osName.startsWith("Windows 9") exists.

piss poor development.

MS isn't responsible for bad coding from 3rd parties.

 

[CZroe]

piss poor development.



MS isn't responsible for bad coding from 3rd parties.

I honestly believe that the reason Program Files for 64-bit versions of Windows is called "Program Files" instead of "Program Files x64" is because Microsoft was not willing to audit and fix references in their own code. Instead, they broke everyone else's sloppy code by changing the name for legacy 32-bit applications ("Program Files x86").

Even John Carmack, a real rocket scientist, has had hard-coded references to "Program Files" break certain apps (I recall one odd Quake III Arena update that wouldn't work if you had changed the default installation directory from Program Files).

 

[purbeast0]

I honestly believe that the reason Program Files for 64-bit versions of Windows is called "Program Files" instead of "Program Files x64" is because Microsoft was not willing to audit and fix references in their own code. Instead, they broke everyone else's sloppy code by changing the name for legacy 32-bit applications ("Program Files x86").

Even John Carmack, a real rocket scientist, has had hard-coded references to "Program Files" break certain apps (I recall one odd Quake III Arena update that wouldn't work if you had changed the default installation directory from Program Files).

the thing is, they aren't checking full strings in those examples. they are using "startsWith" so they are only comparing part of the strings.

had those devs just used string.equals("Windows 95") || string.equals("Windows 98") their code would work fine with a "Windows 9" version.

 

[CZroe]

the thing is, they aren't checking full strings in those examples. they are using "startsWith" so they are only comparing part of the strings.

had those devs just used string.equals("Windows 95") || string.equals("Windows 98") their code would work fine with a "Windows 9" version.

...and the code would've worked with every version of Windows at the time with fewer lines. Same goes for most hard-coded references to "Program Files." It's similar. Microsoft wasn't willing to fix their own problems with such code so they just dumped it on everyone else and blamed their "bad code."

I'm not saying it isn't bad code, I'm saying that they are just as guilty but they are in the position to make it our problem.

 

[purbeast0]

...and the code would've worked with every version of Windows at the time with fewer lines. Same goes for most hard-coded references to "Program Files." It's similar. Microsoft wasn't willing to fix their own problems with such code so they just dumped it on everyone else and blamed their "bad code."

I'm not saying it isn't bad code, I'm saying that they are just as guilty but they are in the position to make it our problem.

that isn't few lines, that is about 15 fewer characters.

good for MS though, because it is bad coding. 🙂