<< Pretty weak. If you read the original post, it referred to foreign aid by the US. I will stand by my original statement that we do more than the rest of the world does. >>
I changed my post...
Patrick
<< Pretty weak. If you read the original post, it referred to foreign aid by the US. I will stand by my original statement that we do more than the rest of the world does. >>
I changed my post...
Patrick
First we are talking about the good and bad the us does, so here is my inpot.
I belive that the US could do incradible good for the world, but what it is doing now is trying to do everything and not doing it well, not enough resources or influence to do everything. If it would just change to doing something good in fewer places.
Just basicly the US has lost its focus concerning the world.
I belive that the US could do incradible good for the world, but what it is doing now is trying to do everything and not doing it well, not enough resources or influence to do everything. If it would just change to doing something good in fewer places.
Just basicly the US has lost its focus concerning the world.
<<Translation: I really don't have a clue, i just wanted to write something...>>
Further translation: Neither do I, so I get off subject instead of focusing on foreign aid which was the original subject that I can't refute anyone's points on.
I never said the US was perfect, just that we do give a tremendous amount to the rest of the world, and lately we seem to be characterized as the bad guys in spite of that.
Further translation: Neither do I, so I get off subject instead of focusing on foreign aid which was the original subject that I can't refute anyone's points on.
I never said the US was perfect, just that we do give a tremendous amount to the rest of the world, and lately we seem to be characterized as the bad guys in spite of that.
<< I belive that the US could do incradible good for the world, but what it is doing now is trying to do everything and not doing it well, not enough resources or influence to do everything. If it would just change to doing something good in fewer places. >>
Like in the US... I totally agree, the US is not supposed to act on every little thing around the world, when it comes to balkan, UN handles that just fine, with some help from EU, which by the way is a collection of nations that are doing very many good things at this time, no need for the US to get involved...
I am not saying that the US isn't doing anything good, they just do too much, sometimes it really feels like they have to get involved in a war or conflict just to please the american people... And i don't think that it does please anyone...
Patrick
<<I am not saying that the US isn't doing anything good, they just do too much, sometimes it really feels like they have to get involved in a war or conflict just to please the american people... >>
I agree that we do too much, but if you look back over the years, whenever we have gotten into someone else's business, we usually had been asked to repeatedly before we actually did.
I agree that we do too much, but if you look back over the years, whenever we have gotten into someone else's business, we usually had been asked to repeatedly before we actually did.
<< I never said the US was perfect, just that we do give a tremendous amount to the rest of the world, and lately we seem to be characterized as the bad guys in spite of that. >>
You said that the US is doing more for the rest of the world than the rest of the world combined... that was a stupid and totally wrong statement, that is what i am getting at...
Sheesh, cant you just admit that you are wrong, or that you don't even have a clue regarding the numbers?
About the "bad guy" stuff, if i were to give a fortune to the poor, then doing a lot of stupid and mean things, should i be thanked for the good things and bashed for the bad, or just thanked?
Patrick
<< I agree that we do too much, but if you look back over the years, whenever we have gotten into someone else's business, we usually had been asked to repeatedly before we actually did. >>
Yes, but you cannot think about history when you are speaking of todays news, the latest involvements from the US were both unasked for and unwanted from all other countries..
Patrick
<<You said that the US is doing more for the rest of the world than the rest of the world combined... that was a stupid and totally wrong statement, that is what i am getting at...>>
No, if you will try to read AND comprehend at the same time, you'll see I was exaggerating to make a point. It's harder to tell when you're just reading words on a screen and not hearing somone, but it's still not that difficult to tell.
So no, it was not a stupid and totally wrong statement, it was writer's embellishment....sorry you didn't get it.
<<Sheesh, cant you just admit that you are wrong, or that you don't even have a clue regarding the numbers>>
Obviously you don't have a clue about the numbers since you haven't given any. All you've done is say I'm wrong without proving it, even after reading my explanation of what I meant.
And don't go surfing now to find some numbers to prove you know what you're talking about....if you knew, you'd have already posted them.
No, if you will try to read AND comprehend at the same time, you'll see I was exaggerating to make a point. It's harder to tell when you're just reading words on a screen and not hearing somone, but it's still not that difficult to tell.
So no, it was not a stupid and totally wrong statement, it was writer's embellishment....sorry you didn't get it.
<<Sheesh, cant you just admit that you are wrong, or that you don't even have a clue regarding the numbers>>
Obviously you don't have a clue about the numbers since you haven't given any. All you've done is say I'm wrong without proving it, even after reading my explanation of what I meant.
And don't go surfing now to find some numbers to prove you know what you're talking about....if you knew, you'd have already posted them.
<<the latest involvements from the US were both unasked for and unwanted from all other countries..>>
And which are the "latest involvements" you speak of?
And which are the "latest involvements" you speak of?
Is that why you wrote that you were SLIGHTLY exaggerating but it was NOT FAR FROM THE TRUTH?
Ah, silly me, i now know that all of your posts are jokes, exaggerating things...
What would you say if i told you that the total amount of money spent by the US compared to the rest of the world is less than 3%... And no, i am not exaggerating...
And you know which country actually spends most money on foreign aid? Norway...
Patrick
Ah, silly me, i now know that all of your posts are jokes, exaggerating things...
What would you say if i told you that the total amount of money spent by the US compared to the rest of the world is less than 3%... And no, i am not exaggerating...
And you know which country actually spends most money on foreign aid? Norway...
Patrick
<< And which are the "latest involvements" you speak of >>
The latest involvements of course, eh... don't you know about it?
I will give you a clue, bombing east of europe... does that ring a bell?
Patrick
Since WWII, the US has contributed more than ONE TRILLION DOLLARS to various countries.
I seriously doubt Norway is even close.
I seriously doubt Norway is even close.
<<I will give you a clue, bombing east of europe... does that ring a bell?>>
Correct me if I'm wrong, your holiness, but I believe that was a NATO operation, not the US. I can't help it if the US is the primary military strength of NATO. We were not the only country participating in that action, and yes, we were asked to help, we didn't butt in uninvited. Not everyone wanted NATO's help, but "everyone" never does.
Correct me if I'm wrong, your holiness, but I believe that was a NATO operation, not the US. I can't help it if the US is the primary military strength of NATO. We were not the only country participating in that action, and yes, we were asked to help, we didn't butt in uninvited. Not everyone wanted NATO's help, but "everyone" never does.
<< I seriously doubt Norway is even close. >>
Ok, maybe i was slightly exaggerating, but i'm sure it isn't far from the truth... LOL...
<< Correct me if I'm wrong, your holiness, but I believe that was a NATO operation, not the US >>
No, that was a UN operation, i was involved, the US acted under the NATO name, they did come to the "rescue" of a non-NATO country, the US were the country that ordered the strike, you can believe what you want, or you can check out the facts for yourself...
Patrick
<< Since WWII, the US has contributed more than ONE TRILLION DOLLARS to various countries. >>
And compared to the rest of the world, that is about 3%... not much considering the population of the US...
Patrick
Ok, i am out of this thread now, i do not bash the US for anything else than for getting involved in places they should not get involved in...
I do great business in the US, so i kinda like it, and i live near the beach, the water is clean, the sun is shining, the women are pretty, so i like the US...
Right now i am on my vacation in Sweden, and the nightlife awaits me, see you later...
Patrick
I do great business in the US, so i kinda like it, and i live near the beach, the water is clean, the sun is shining, the women are pretty, so i like the US...
Right now i am on my vacation in Sweden, and the nightlife awaits me, see you later...
Patrick
<<No, that was a UN operation, i was involved, the US acted under the NATO name, they did come to the "rescue" of a non-NATO country, the US were the country that ordered the strike, you can believe what you want, or you can check out the facts for yourself...>>
My fault, I did mean UN, not NATO. The rest of what I said I stand by, just with "UN" where I mistakenly typed NATO. And don't think we weren't asked to help. Sure, after it was decided to go there, I'm sure the US did the actual planning and issuing orders, but I don't believe we just decided to go over there whether they wanted us to or not. I'm sure not all of them did, particularly the ones being supplied by the Russians.
My fault, I did mean UN, not NATO. The rest of what I said I stand by, just with "UN" where I mistakenly typed NATO. And don't think we weren't asked to help. Sure, after it was decided to go there, I'm sure the US did the actual planning and issuing orders, but I don't believe we just decided to go over there whether they wanted us to or not. I'm sure not all of them did, particularly the ones being supplied by the Russians.
Take it somewhere else guys. This is not the thread for flame wars.
Now, I'd personally like to thank the U.S. We have more influences from US then any other foreign country. God bless your Television shows and your Holly Wood movies.
And most of all, I wouldn't be here posting with you fine people if you guys didn't invent the internet.
Now, I'd personally like to thank the U.S. We have more influences from US then any other foreign country. God bless your Television shows and your Holly Wood movies.
And most of all, I wouldn't be here posting with you fine people if you guys didn't invent the internet.
No problem GL. Thanks for the recognition.
And I agree with you in thinking that most Canadian-US bickering is in humor.
Could you send down one of those non-low flush toilets...
And I agree with you in thinking that most Canadian-US bickering is in humor.
Could you send down one of those non-low flush toilets...
Some body stats, here you go. READ IT.
Quoted from "We the People" by Dr. Thomas E Patterson. (My political science book)
"Since WWII, the US has been far and away the leading source of aid to the devolping countries of the world. The US is still a major contributor but is now far down the list in terms of its per capita annual contributions."
I would also like to say that people should look things up before they spout figures. Chart from same book.
"Foreign aid spent by countries to Devloping countries"
first number is total in billions, 2nd number is dollars per capita
Canada = 2.0, $70
France = 8.4, 143
Germany = 7.5, 115
Great Britain = 3.2, 56
Italy = 1.6, 33
Japan = 14.5, 120
Sweden = 1.7, 185
United States = 7.4, 29
So as you can see, the US doesn't spend the most in foreign aid nor does it spend the most per capita. The big misconception with the US is 'we' think we are spending so much but it makes up for < 1% of our total federal budget.
But, like I said before GL, thanks for the credit.
If you would like more stats, feel free to ask and remember, 93% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
J
Quoted from "We the People" by Dr. Thomas E Patterson. (My political science book)
"Since WWII, the US has been far and away the leading source of aid to the devolping countries of the world. The US is still a major contributor but is now far down the list in terms of its per capita annual contributions."
I would also like to say that people should look things up before they spout figures. Chart from same book.
"Foreign aid spent by countries to Devloping countries"
first number is total in billions, 2nd number is dollars per capita
Canada = 2.0, $70
France = 8.4, 143
Germany = 7.5, 115
Great Britain = 3.2, 56
Italy = 1.6, 33
Japan = 14.5, 120
Sweden = 1.7, 185
United States = 7.4, 29
So as you can see, the US doesn't spend the most in foreign aid nor does it spend the most per capita. The big misconception with the US is 'we' think we are spending so much but it makes up for < 1% of our total federal budget.
But, like I said before GL, thanks for the credit.
If you would like more stats, feel free to ask and remember, 93% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
J
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Except maybe for Germany, they have the Deutchland über alles printed on ther foreheads, and the americans are considered to be the same way about the US, no wrongdoings, we are better than you...
I've been all over Europe and the only place I ever got a bad attitude directed toward me was in France. In fact I just about had to take a French A-Hole outside and teach him a lesson. Of course he surrendered before I had the chance.
The countries that were nicest towards me and the other Americans with me were:
1. Germany
2. Italy(God the women loved us!)
3. England
4. Switzerland
5. Holland
Most of the other countries were very nice as well, it's just that those above really seemed to like Americans.
I guess I should be careful when arguing with a UN "Soldier" though...don't want him to come after me in one of those mighty white tanks.
I've been all over Europe and the only place I ever got a bad attitude directed toward me was in France. In fact I just about had to take a French A-Hole outside and teach him a lesson. Of course he surrendered before I had the chance.
The countries that were nicest towards me and the other Americans with me were:
1. Germany
2. Italy(God the women loved us!)
3. England
4. Switzerland
5. Holland
Most of the other countries were very nice as well, it's just that those above really seemed to like Americans.
I guess I should be careful when arguing with a UN "Soldier" though...don't want him to come after me in one of those mighty white tanks.
iam, ok, per capita is lower, but how about overall total $$$? I would think it is how much you send, not how much it works out to per person.
Our per capita is bound to be less, since we have more people than most of the countries we aid.
At any rate, it's still a lot, but I'm glad to see the rest of the world stepping it up a bit.
Our per capita is bound to be less, since we have more people than most of the countries we aid.
At any rate, it's still a lot, but I'm glad to see the rest of the world stepping it up a bit.
<< I guess I should be careful when arguing with a UN "Soldier" though...don't want him to come after me in one of those mighty white tanks. >>
You misunderstood my post totally, first of all, i did not say that the Germans were the most unfriendly people towards the americans...
And you are not arguing with me, i never stated that that was the way i felt...
Go back, read my post again...
And no, i do not think i need a tank to take you on...
Patrick
<< iam, ok, per capita is lower, but how about overall total $$$? >>
Per capita is the important number... Even if you count the total overall $$$ the US is not in first place, not in second and not in third place, and definently not contributing more than rest of the world combined...
Patrick
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