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Texas Woman Mauled to Death by Six Dogs

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That really sucks.

Being attacked by a dog was enough to scare me for life. Being killed would really suck.
 
Originally posted by: meltdown75
lol. the chihuahua seems to be the non-violent dog of choice. interestingly enough, i find them just as mean & nasty as so-called "violent breeds".
Damn straight. Back 'em in a corner and they'll pee on you ankle. Vicious, just vicious.

 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: rbrandon
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: moshquerade
[sarcasm]blame the owner not the dogs[/sarcasm]
so you feel that the problem is with the breed?
eh, i was referring to another thread about this where some posters were denying the breed had anything to do with it.

LOL, and you pretty much admited that it is ultimately stupid owners.

Don't make me pull up the thread...

6 wild dogs. Any type of dog would do this type of thing if treated wrong and raised to be aggressive.

Oh but don't forget to keep blaming the breed when it was an owner letting his aggressive dogs run free.
the denial is strong in this one.
yes, sucky owners can definitely contribute, but only certain breeds of dogs are known to kill people.

when i was 4, my father bought me a rotty. by the time i was 7, he was 3 and 125 pounds. when he was 6, he weighed 155 pounds, and i was 10, and maybe 90 pounds if i was lucky, but there i was walkin him every day. why oh why didnt this vicious, terrible rottweiler kill me? why hasnt my pitbull killed me and my family? theryre horrible! eaters of babies! the worst dogs ever!


:roll:

go ahead, generallze some more. Lets get serious. God forbid someone breaks into your house, do you want tinkerbell and her 6 teacup chihuahua friends to protect you, or would you want a 145 pound dog to be there to save the day?
puhleese... save the drama.

you are agreeing with me by saying that the chihuahua is not at all a maneater when someone breaks into a house as compared to other breeds.


how about you face reality. people who get bitten by unfamiliar dogs are those who don't know how to handle themselves aound dogs, namely rule #1, which is if you don't know the dog, STAY THE FVCK AWAY FROM IT. Now instead of you spitting more pussified bleeding-heart tripe at me, why don't you answer my question? Why hasn't the pittbull gone on a foaming-at-the-mouth rampage and killed me and my bfamily? why didn't the rottweiler eat me when i was 4?

I am agreeing with you that when some dumbfvcks tried a daylight robbery at my house, 6 tinkerbells wouldve gotten me and my younger brother killed. a 165 pound rotty is sa hell of a dterrent.

Come on, give me your best shot. show everyone that you can do more than spit back my own words at me in a quote. Put together a complete, intelligent sentence. Amuse me.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: rbrandon
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: moshquerade
[sarcasm]blame the owner not the dogs[/sarcasm]
so you feel that the problem is with the breed?
eh, i was referring to another thread about this where some posters were denying the breed had anything to do with it.

LOL, and you pretty much admited that it is ultimately stupid owners.

Don't make me pull up the thread...

6 wild dogs. Any type of dog would do this type of thing if treated wrong and raised to be aggressive.

Oh but don't forget to keep blaming the breed when it was an owner letting his aggressive dogs run free.
the denial is strong in this one.
yes, sucky owners can definitely contribute, but only certain breeds of dogs are known to kill people.

when i was 4, my father bought me a rotty. by the time i was 7, he was 3 and 125 pounds. when he was 6, he weighed 155 pounds, and i was 10, and maybe 90 pounds if i was lucky, but there i was walkin him every day. why oh why didnt this vicious, terrible rottweiler kill me? why hasnt my pitbull killed me and my family? theryre horrible! eaters of babies! the worst dogs ever!


:roll:

go ahead, generallze some more. Lets get serious. God forbid someone breaks into your house, do you want tinkerbell and her 6 teacup chihuahua friends to protect you, or would you want a 145 pound dog to be there to save the day?
puhleese... save the drama.

you are agreeing with me by saying that the chihuahua is not at all a maneater when someone breaks into a house as compared to other breeds.

no kidding. attack/guard/fighting dogs were not selected for propensity to attack its owner😛
 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: meltdown75
lol. the chihuahua seems to be the non-violent dog of choice. interestingly enough, i find them just as mean & nasty as so-called "violent breeds".
Damn straight. Back 'em in a corner and they'll pee on you ankle. Vicious, just vicious.
mean and nasty in terms of temperament of the breed is what i meant, but whatever.
 
Originally posted by: rbrandon
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: rbrandon
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Codewiz
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: moshquerade
[sarcasm]blame the owner not the dogs[/sarcasm]
so you feel that the problem is with the breed?
eh, i was referring to another thread about this where some posters were denying the breed had anything to do with it.

LOL, and you pretty much admited that it is ultimately stupid owners.

Don't make me pull up the thread...

6 wild dogs. Any type of dog would do this type of thing if treated wrong and raised to be aggressive.

Oh but don't forget to keep blaming the breed when it was an owner letting his aggressive dogs run free.
the denial is strong in this one.
yes, sucky owners can definitely contribute, but only certain breeds of dogs are known to kill people.

when i was 4, my father bought me a rotty. by the time i was 7, he was 3 and 125 pounds. when he was 6, he weighed 155 pounds, and i was 10, and maybe 90 pounds if i was lucky, but there i was walkin him every day. why oh why didnt this vicious, terrible rottweiler kill me? why hasnt my pitbull killed me and my family? theryre horrible! eaters of babies! the worst dogs ever!


:roll:

go ahead, generallze some more. Lets get serious. God forbid someone breaks into your house, do you want tinkerbell and her 6 teacup chihuahua friends to protect you, or would you want a 145 pound dog to be there to save the day?
puhleese... save the drama.

you are agreeing with me by saying that the chihuahua is not at all a maneater when someone breaks into a house as compared to other breeds.


how about you face reality. people who get bitten by unfamiliar dogs are those who don't know how to handle themselves aound dogs, namely rule #1, which is if you don't know the dog, STAY THE FVCK AWAY FROM IT. Now instead of you spitting more pussified bleeding-heart tripe at me, why don't you answer my question? Why hasn't the pittbull gone on a foaming-at-the-mouth rampage and killed me and my bfamily? why didn't the rottweiler eat me when i was 4?

I am agreeing with you that when some dumbfvcks tried a daylight robbery at my house, 6 tinkerbells wouldve gotten me and my younger brother killed. a 165 pound rotty is sa hell of a dterrent.

Come on, give me your best shot. show everyone that you can do more than spit back my own words at me in a quote. Put together a complete, intelligent sentence. Amuse me.
YOU are the one who needs to face reality. how was this woman, who was going about her own business doing her yardwork, supposed to react when this pack of wolves attacked her? should she just continue sitting on her riding mower and be taken down?

and what is the bullsh!t? "if you don't know the dog, STAY THE FVCK AWAY FROM IT."
no fvcking kidding! 😕 the freakin dogs CAME INTO HER YARD!!!
your logic has failed you there.

you want an answer to your question? not all pitts and rotts are created equal. i never claimed they all were violent. but the breed can be mankillers unlike so many others who aren't capable.

also, i find your responses uncivilized. please curb them.


 
Originally posted by: LeiZaK
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: meltdown75
lol. the chihuahua seems to be the non-violent dog of choice. interestingly enough, i find them just as mean & nasty as so-called "violent breeds".

Just because they aren't powerfull enough to cause damage doesn't mean they aren't violent or aggressive. I don't understand why people confuse the two. Violent != powerfull and powerfull != violent, they are mutually exclusive.

You are saying that it is not possible for something to be both violent and powerful? 😕

Who cares if they are violent if they can't rip you to shreds? The problem here is death, not annoyance.

As far as Chihuahuas, they ARE nasty. When I was a kid on my paper route, one little old lady had 3 of them that would attack me nearly every day, surrounding me and ripping at my pants, socks, and ankles. They even tried to eat my bicycle tires. But they were so funny to watch them that I kept on stopping to play with them 🙂
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
you want an answer to your question? not all pitts and rotts are created equal. i never claimed they all were violent. but the breed can be mankillers unlike so many others who aren't capable.


If you mean little foo foo rat dogs, I'll agree there. But if you think a German Shepherd, Akita, Lab or any other "real" dog isn't capable of killing a person, I highly disagree. Every single "real" dog has the potential to kill a human. Don't dismiss the breed simply because they aren't the so called "killer breed."
 
Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: moshquerade
you want an answer to your question? not all pitts and rotts are created equal. i never claimed they all were violent. but the breed can be mankillers unlike so many others who aren't capable.


If you mean little foo foo rat dogs, I'll agree there. But if you think a German Shepherd, Akita, Lab or any other "real" dog isn't capable of killing a person, I highly disagree. Every single "real" dog has the potential to kill a human. Don't dismiss the breed simply because they aren't the so called "killer breed."

You dont hear about labs or golden retrievers going apesh1t and mauling a person though.
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Kaervak
Originally posted by: moshquerade
you want an answer to your question? not all pitts and rotts are created equal. i never claimed they all were violent. but the breed can be mankillers unlike so many others who aren't capable.


If you mean little foo foo rat dogs, I'll agree there. But if you think a German Shepherd, Akita, Lab or any other "real" dog isn't capable of killing a person, I highly disagree. Every single "real" dog has the potential to kill a human. Don't dismiss the breed simply because they aren't the so called "killer breed."

You dont hear about labs or golden retrievers going apesh1t and mauling a person though.

And because you don't hear about it doesn't mean it can't happen? I damn well know there's the possibility of it happening, slim as it may be. But saying, no it can never happen is horribly flawed.
 
The thing many of you though forget is that *any* dog can be unpredicatable sometimes. We have a border collie who absolutely loves people. We always said anyone who comes through the door is her instant best friend. And it has always been that way, no matter who came through that door she loved, except one person. We had a guy come to repair a broken washing machine, she went nuts, wanted to take his head off. Tht is why I always am attentive to all animals that I have or care for, because even those that you have known all you life and have never seen agression from can sometimes react strangely to someone new. He didn't do anything to provoke her other than being in her territory, but as responsible pet owners we were able to recognize her reactions and put her in another room before she got to him. The point is that they are animals and even those that are great with their families can be a danger to society if not kept properly.
 
Originally posted by: Yossarian451
The thing many of you though forget is that *any* dog can be unpredicatable sometimes. We have a border collie who absolutely loves people. We always said anyone who comes through the door is her instant best friend. And it has always been that way, no matter who came through that door she loved, except one person. We had a guy come to repair a broken washing machine, she went nuts, wanted to take his head off. Tht is why I always am attentive to all animals that I have or care for, because even those that you have known all you life and have never seen agression from can sometimes react strangely to someone new. He didn't do anything to provoke her other than being in her territory, but as responsible pet owners we were able to recognize her reactions and put her in another room before she got to him. The point is that they are animals and even those that are great with their families can be a danger to society if not kept properly.

Thats the problem, to many irresponsible adults with big dogs. There should be some special licensing and training program for people that want dogs like pits and rotts.
 
Originally posted by: biostud
people always say blame the owner not the dog...... well if all dogs were Chihuahua's I'm pretty sure we would see less dog incidents 😛

although some would argue that a Chihuahua is not even a dog
Do you know anything about Chihuahuas? They might be small, but they're mean and nasty as hell. Terrible temperments. I absolutely hate them.

The fault is always the owners. Pits and Rotts were bred for obedience as well as fighting ability. Properly reared and trained, they are among the friendliest and obedient of all breeds. The problem is a small minority of idiot owners.
Think of it this way. If a person gets shot, do we blame the gun? No, we blame the person who pulled the trigger. And rightfully so, guns do not pull their own triggers. Same thing with these dogs.

Originally posted by: miri
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf

Deaths from dogs 1979-1998

Pit bull 66
Rottweiler 39
German Sheperd 17
Husky 15
Malamute 12
Doberman 9
Chow Chow 8
Great Dane 7
Funny thing, these stats were posted in another pit bull flame war thread. The really funny thing though is that these stats don't actually show the danger of dogs (any breed), but how unbelievably safe they are. The dog population at any given time in the US is roughly 50 million. Out of that, 173 people died over 20 years. That's statistically safer than most household appliances. Hell, probably more than 9 geeks fry themselves each year while working on their computers. On the flip side, we have the automobile -- the most dangerous product ever -- with roughly 45,000 fatalies every single year with roughly 200 million vehicles in use.

On topic though, this is terrible to hear about this poor lady. I sincerely hope that the irresponsible idiot owner is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
 
Having handled and trained dogs for a few years, I have seen the pack behavior crop up with seemingly normal, friendly pets.
Dogs were only domesticated for a few thousand years, and the pack instinct is strong. One loose dog in the neighborhood is not a real big deal, but when they pack up, beware. I don't care what breed it is. They don't have to live together as in this tragic incident. I have seen them meet up from different houses out in the country and it turns on like a light switch. I am a big dog lover and enjoy training them, but I'd be the first to blast a few dogs if that is what it took to break up a pack.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: biostud
people always say blame the owner not the dog...... well if all dogs were Chihuahua's I'm pretty sure we would see less dog incidents 😛

although some would argue that a Chihuahua is not even a dog
Do you know anything about Chihuahuas? They might be small, but they're mean and nasty as hell. Terrible temperments. I absolutely hate them.

The fault is always the owners. Pits and Rotts were bred for obedience as well as fighting ability. Properly reared and trained, they are among the friendliest and obedient of all breeds. The problem is a small minority of idiot owners.
Think of it this way. If a person gets shot, do we blame the gun? No, we blame the person who pulled the trigger. And rightfully so, guns do not pull their own triggers. Same thing with these dogs.

Originally posted by: miri
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf

Deaths from dogs 1979-1998

Pit bull 66
Rottweiler 39
German Sheperd 17
Husky 15
Malamute 12
Doberman 9
Chow Chow 8
Great Dane 7
Funny thing, these stats were posted in another pit bull flame war thread. The really funny thing though is that these stats don't actually show the danger of dogs (any breed), but how unbelievably safe they are. The dog population at any given time in the US is roughly 50 million. Out of that, 173 people died over 20 years. That's statistically safer than most household appliances. Hell, probably more than 9 geeks fry themselves each year while working on their computers. On the flip side, we have the automobile -- the most dangerous product ever -- with roughly 45,000 fatalies every single year with roughly 200 million vehicles in use.

On topic though, this is terrible to hear about this poor lady. I sincerely hope that the irresponsible idiot owner is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

A lot more than 173 people were killed in dog attacks in 20 years, those numbers only show the top dog deaths and does not include mixed breeds. Also how many thousands of attacks were there that left the person permanently disfigured or handicapped.
 
Originally posted by: Yossarian451
The thing many of you though forget is that *any* dog can be unpredicatable sometimes. We have a border collie who absolutely loves people. We always said anyone who comes through the door is her instant best friend. And it has always been that way, no matter who came through that door she loved, except one person. We had a guy come to repair a broken washing machine, she went nuts, wanted to take his head off. Tht is why I always am attentive to all animals that I have or care for, because even those that you have known all you life and have never seen agression from can sometimes react strangely to someone new. He didn't do anything to provoke her other than being in her territory, but as responsible pet owners we were able to recognize her reactions and put her in another room before she got to him. The point is that they are animals and even those that are great with their families can be a danger to society if not kept properly.

The question is not what sets a dog off, but what that dog is capable of when set off and whether it can be subdued. Dogs can be set off for really crazy reasons, the craziest reasons are under the guise of protection, percieved threats to the household or owner. What a dog percieves as a threat does not always stack up to what an owner percieves as a threat.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: moshquerade
[sarcasm]blame the owner not the dogs[/sarcasm]
so you feel that the problem is with the breed?
eh, i was referring to another thread about this where some posters were denying the breed had anything to do with it.

When was the last time a pack of golden retrievers mauled a woman to death??? When was the last time a golden retriever killed anyone? Of course it's the breed. You'd be an idiot to believe otherwise.
 
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: meltdown75
Originally posted by: moshquerade
[sarcasm]blame the owner not the dogs[/sarcasm]
so you feel that the problem is with the breed?
eh, i was referring to another thread about this where some posters were denying the breed had anything to do with it.

When was the last time a pack of golden retrievers mauled a woman to death??? When was the last time a golden retriever killed anyone? Of course it's the breed. You'd be an idiot to believe otherwise.

so, if i buy a dalmation, and train it to kill, is it still the breed or is it me?
 
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