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Texas prep HS basketball coach fired

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http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28845363/

DALLAS - The coach of a Texas high school basketball team that beat another team 100-0 was fired Sunday, the same day he sent an e-mail to a newspaper saying he will not apologize ?for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.?

Kyle Queal, the headmaster for Covenant School, said in The Dallas Morning News online edition that he could not answer if the firing was a direct result of coach Micah Grimes? e-mail disagreeing with administrators who called the blowout ?shameful.?

Queal did not immediately answer phone messages or e-mail from The Associated Press.

On its Web site last week, Covenant, a private Christian school, posted a statement regretting the outcome of its Jan. 13 shutout win over Dallas Academy. ?It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened. This clearly does not reflect a Christlike and honorable approach to competition,? said the statement, signed by Queal and board chair Todd Doshier.

Grimes, who has been criticized for letting the game get so far out of hand, made it clear in the e-mail Sunday to the newspaper that he does not agree with his school?s assessment.

?In response to the statement posted on The Covenant School Web site, I do not agree with the apology or the notion that the Covenant School girls basketball team should feel embarrassed or ashamed,? Grimes wrote in the e-mail, according to the newspaper. ?We played the game as it was meant to be played. My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.?

A phone number for Grimes could not be located by The Associated Press. The Dallas Morning News said Grimes did not respond to their repeated e-mail requests for a telephone interview.

There was no answer at a number listed for Doshier.

A parent who attended the game said Covenant continued to make 3-pointers ? even in the fourth quarter. She praised the Covenant players but said spectators and an assistant coach were cheering wildly as their team edged closer to 100 points.

Covenant was up 59-0 at halftime.

Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with ?learning differences,? such as short attention spans or dyslexia.

There is no mercy rule in girls basketball that shortens the game or permits the clock to continue running when scores become one-sided. There is, however, ?a golden rule? that should have applied in this contest, Edd Burleson, the director of the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, said last week. Both schools are members of this association, which oversees private school athletics in Texas.

The story has received national attention, and the Dallas Academy team has been recognized for refusing to give up during the lopsided contest.
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this shiz with the kindler gentler america has got to stop.
 
shrug.

i can't blame the school. all the negitive publicity it has got has hurt them. sure he can sue but won't win.
 
It's a religious school, so I don't have a problem with them firing the coach based on a difference in philosophy, particularly where they achieved a 100-0 score against such a vulnerable opponent.

What confuses me is this quote by Micah Grimes:

My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.
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How can a 100-0 score be characterized as anything other than running up the score?

Originally posted by: Newbian
Now the coach needs to do the other great American thing... lawsuit. 😀
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He's going to need more than just this firing to make out a case worth litigating.
 
He wasn't fired because he refused to apologize, he was fired because he publicly contradicted the schools official policy. The school leaders met, decided on a course of action that would have allowed the bozo to keep his job and released their official statement. The coach then threw a hissy fit and sent out a mass email saying that they were, essentially, idiots. Of course he got fired. Any employer would fire a rogue employee who can't shut his trap and who contradicts company policy in public.
 
That's fucking retarded. He should have ran the score up even more. Not his fault that the other team blows ass. Blame the schedule makers.
 
Why was this even a matchup? It's like an NBA team playing against the YMCA 13 year old traveling team and running the score 200-0 and then not apologizing for acting like assholes.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
That's fucking retarded. He should have ran the score up even more. Not his fault that the other team blows ass. Blame the schedule makers.
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Why? What possible benefit could there have been to this? Further humiliation of the other team? Wanting to teach his own players an even-worse lesson about sportsmanship?
 
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
It's a religious school, so I don't have a problem with them firing the coach based on a difference in philosophy, particularly where they achieved a 100-0 score against such a vulnerable opponent.

What confuses me is this quote by Micah Grimes:

My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.
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How can a 100-0 score be characterized as anything other than running up the score?

Originally posted by: Newbian
Now the coach needs to do the other great American thing... lawsuit. 😀
Click to expand...

He's going to need more than just this firing to make out a case worth litigating.
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I know nothing of how the game actually played out but is he supposed to start telling his team to intentionally turn the ball over? Intentionally miss shots? Hold the ball? Don't play defense?

The other team is the one that should be ashamed. For sucking. And I'm referring to basketball here. 😛
 
I read that there's no "mercy" rule, but really, what's to stop the coaches from walking across the court at halftime, saying that nothing good would come of the second half, shake hands and have their teams do the same?

 
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
He wasn't fired because he refused to apologize, he was fired because he publicly contradicted the schools official policy. The school leaders met, decided on a course of action that would have allowed the bozo to keep his job and released their official statement. The coach then threw a hissy fit and sent out a mass email saying that they were, essentially, idiots. Of course he got fired. Any employer would fire a rogue employee who can't shut his trap and who contradicts company policy in public.
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Exactly, if you have an employee openly and public defy you in those circumstances I'd say it's not only allowable it fire them but necessary as well.
 
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
It's a religious school, so I don't have a problem with them firing the coach based on a difference in philosophy, particularly where they achieved a 100-0 score against such a vulnerable opponent.

What confuses me is this quote by Micah Grimes:

My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.
Click to expand...

How can a 100-0 score be characterized as anything other than running up the score?

Originally posted by: Newbian
Now the coach needs to do the other great American thing... lawsuit. 😀
Click to expand...

He's going to need more than just this firing to make out a case worth litigating.
Click to expand...

I know nothing of how the game actually played out but is he supposed to start telling his team to intentionally turn the ball over? Intentionally miss shots? Hold the ball? Don't play defense?

The other team is the one that should be ashamed. For sucking. And I'm referring to basketball here. 😛
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After they are up 50-0, put in the last 5 girls on the team in and run "four corners" for the rest of the game. If there is a shot clock, wait until the last second of the clock to fire up a long jumper. If there isn't just keep passing the ball around for a few game minutes and then take a long jumper.

On defense, play an extremely soft zone that allows the other team to shoot three pointers. When they regain possession of the ball, no fast breaks, simply walk the ball up the floor and go back to the "four corners" offense (see above).
 
Originally posted by: HopJokey
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
It's a religious school, so I don't have a problem with them firing the coach based on a difference in philosophy, particularly where they achieved a 100-0 score against such a vulnerable opponent.

What confuses me is this quote by Micah Grimes:

My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.
Click to expand...

How can a 100-0 score be characterized as anything other than running up the score?

Originally posted by: Newbian
Now the coach needs to do the other great American thing... lawsuit. 😀
Click to expand...

He's going to need more than just this firing to make out a case worth litigating.
Click to expand...

I know nothing of how the game actually played out but is he supposed to start telling his team to intentionally turn the ball over? Intentionally miss shots? Hold the ball? Don't play defense?

The other team is the one that should be ashamed. For sucking. And I'm referring to basketball here. 😛
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After they are up 50-0, put in the last 5 girls on the team and run "four corners" for the rest of the game. If there is a shot clock, wait until the last second of the clock to fire up a long jumper. If there isn't just keep passing the ball around for a few game minutes and then take a long jumper.

On defense, play an extremely soft zone that allows the other team to shoot three pointers. When they regain possession of the ball, no fast breaks simply walk the ball up the floor and go back to the "four corners" offense (see above).
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Umm no. Have you even played competitive sports on any level outside of the local Y? You don't run a basketball program like this. The very least you would do is put in the subs and stop pressing. You can't tell your team to stop playing because the other team sucks as it isn't fair to your benchwarmers. It's the other teams job to put up at least some sort of competitive fight otherwise they shouldn't even be playing basketball.
 
Originally posted by: Tobolo
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: Newbian
Now the coach needs to do the other great American thing... lawsuit. 😀
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this

payback's a bitch
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employment at will
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Most teachers have contracts.
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Most HS girls basketball coaches don't and EVERY contract will include clauses voiding said contract if the employee publicly embarrasses the employer. If the asshole had a contract he damn well breached it with that email.
 
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: HopJokey
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
It's a religious school, so I don't have a problem with them firing the coach based on a difference in philosophy, particularly where they achieved a 100-0 score against such a vulnerable opponent.

What confuses me is this quote by Micah Grimes:

My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.
Click to expand...

How can a 100-0 score be characterized as anything other than running up the score?

Originally posted by: Newbian
Now the coach needs to do the other great American thing... lawsuit. 😀
Click to expand...

He's going to need more than just this firing to make out a case worth litigating.
Click to expand...

I know nothing of how the game actually played out but is he supposed to start telling his team to intentionally turn the ball over? Intentionally miss shots? Hold the ball? Don't play defense?

The other team is the one that should be ashamed. For sucking. And I'm referring to basketball here. 😛
Click to expand...

After they are up 50-0, put in the last 5 girls on the team and run "four corners" for the rest of the game. If there is a shot clock, wait until the last second of the clock to fire up a long jumper. If there isn't just keep passing the ball around for a few game minutes and then take a long jumper.

On defense, play an extremely soft zone that allows the other team to shoot three pointers. When they regain possession of the ball, no fast breaks simply walk the ball up the floor and go back to the "four corners" offense (see above).
Click to expand...

Umm no. Have you even played competitive sports on any level outside of the local Y? You don't run a basketball program like this. The very least you would do is put in the subs and stop pressing. You can't tell your team to stop playing because the other team sucks. It's the other teams job to put up at least some sort of competitive fight otherwise they shouldn't even be playing basketball.
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I actually agree with you in that there should be no mercy, and you play all out until the end no matter what (especially in the pros). Just wanted to offer "strategy" on how it could be played differently.
 
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: HopJokey
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
It's a religious school, so I don't have a problem with them firing the coach based on a difference in philosophy, particularly where they achieved a 100-0 score against such a vulnerable opponent.

What confuses me is this quote by Micah Grimes:

My values and my beliefs would not allow me to run up the score on any opponent, and it will not allow me to apologize for a wide-margin victory when my girls played with honor and integrity.
Click to expand...

How can a 100-0 score be characterized as anything other than running up the score?

Originally posted by: Newbian
Now the coach needs to do the other great American thing... lawsuit. 😀
Click to expand...

He's going to need more than just this firing to make out a case worth litigating.
Click to expand...

I know nothing of how the game actually played out but is he supposed to start telling his team to intentionally turn the ball over? Intentionally miss shots? Hold the ball? Don't play defense?

The other team is the one that should be ashamed. For sucking. And I'm referring to basketball here. 😛
Click to expand...

After they are up 50-0, put in the last 5 girls on the team and run "four corners" for the rest of the game. If there is a shot clock, wait until the last second of the clock to fire up a long jumper. If there isn't just keep passing the ball around for a few game minutes and then take a long jumper.

On defense, play an extremely soft zone that allows the other team to shoot three pointers. When they regain possession of the ball, no fast breaks simply walk the ball up the floor and go back to the "four corners" offense (see above).
Click to expand...

Umm no. Have you even played competitive sports on any level outside of the local Y? You don't run a basketball program like this. The very least you would do is put in the subs and stop pressing. You can't tell your team to stop playing because the other team sucks as it isn't fair to your benchwarmers. It's the other teams job to put up at least some sort of competitive fight otherwise they shouldn't even be playing basketball.
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Get a clue.
 
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt


Most HS girls basketball coaches don't and EVERY contract will include clauses voiding said contract if the employee publicly embarrasses the employer. If the asshole had a contract he damn well breached it with that email.
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and no need for explicit contract either... its common sense to have tact and class not to run up the score on a poor opponent.

i mean, you guys go all-out when playing your 7-year old cousin on the playstation?

they were up 59-0 at half time, and in the 2nd half everyone on the bench cheered wildly as they try to hit the 100 mark.

total fucking dumbfuck moment to try to do something like that.
 
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