Texas Mother Punished for 5 years for Spanking Daughter

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Infohawk

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Read the quote. That's not at all what the judge said. It's clear the judge is against any kind of spanking.

I get it. I'm saying I don't see the problem telling an abuser of alcohol or children to stop altogether. Neither are necessary. It's not like telling a fat person to stop eating.
 

guyver01

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well, why would you spank your kids anyway?

cuz.. sometimes to make your point, you need to punctuate it with a spanking.

if you walk into a table and stub your toe, you remember not to do it because of the pain.

if a kid destroys a room, they remember not to do it from a spanking.
 

Ackmed

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I spank my kids when needed, which is hardly ever.

Just another point in where America is getting pussyfied.
 

Broheim

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cuz.. sometimes to make your point, you need to punctuate it with a spanking.

if you walk into a table and stub your toe, you remember not to do it because of the pain.

if a kid destroys a room, they remember not to do it from a spanking.

normally, an assault is intended to maim or injure the person.

a spanking is not.

if you need to spank your children then you're an utter failure as a parent... also, if your kid is "destroying rooms" I seriously doubt spanking is going to fix it.

so if I punch you in the face with the intention to teach you that getting punched in the face hurts, then it's ok to punch you in the face?
 

guyver01

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if you need to spank your children then you're an utter failure as a parent.

repost this again when you are actually of age to have kids... and actually have one.

12 year olds who hate their parents because they got spanked, aren't really gonna have an opinion that matters.
 

Craig234

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normally, an assault is intended to maim or injure the person.

a spanking is not.

I suggest you back up your informed opinion by proving it, walking up to a stranger and involuntarily spanking them. Then see what you are charged with.
 

Broheim

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repost this again when you are actually of age to have kids... and actually have one.

12 year olds who hate their parents because they got spanked, aren't really gonna have an opinion that matters.

20 years old and never got spanked, my parents never needed to... but nice try
 

guyver01

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I suggest you back up your informed opinion by proving it, walking up to a stranger and involuntarily spanking them. Then see what you are charged with.

i said NORMALLY..

not your pussy fights..
:colbert:


meet me in the street, we'll see if ya get a spanking
 

Infohawk

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I spank my kids when needed, which is hardly ever.

Just another point in where America is getting pussyfied.

And did your mother take your kids to the hospital afterwards? I just get the feeling that a lot of people don't really read the article or the posts before they comment.
 

Ackmed

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And did your mother take your kids to the hospital afterwards? I just get the feeling that a lot of people don't really read the article or the posts before they comment.

I read the article just fine. My butt was red what I got spanked as a kid, thats what happens. So were my kids. The judge acted said there shouldnt be spanking in todays world, that its not the olden days (paraphrase). And that is just stupid.

Taking it out of schools is another point where America is being weak. Your kid backtalks or spits on another kid, he should get paddled. End of story. Not "talked to".
 
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Craig234

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i said NORMALLY..

not your pussy fights..
:colbert:


meet me in the street, we'll see if ya get a spanking

Well, coward, you disagreed that spanking constitutes assault done to an adult. You lose as you run away now.

In fact, you seem to have brain damage consistent with getting hit in the head repeatedly.

The word 'normally' has nothing to do with the point - it's not what we're talking about.

If I said 'taking a coke from a store isn't shoplifting because most shoplifting is items much more valuable', and you said 'then shoplift a coke and see that the charges are', my saying 'I said NORMALLY' wouldn't have anything to do with the topic, which was whether the smaller act qualified as the crime or not. You aren't too good at this posting thing.
 

Infohawk

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I read the article just fine. My butt was red what I got spanked as a kid, thats what happens. So were my kids. The judge acted said there shouldnt be spanking in todays world, that its not the olden days (paraphrase). And that is just stupid.

Did your grandmother take you to the hospital because of it?
 

guyver01

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Well, coward, you disagreed that spanking constitutes assault done to an adult. You lose as you run away now.

well, moron, you LOSE, because the LAW disagrees with you

The least serious assault classification is 3rd degree assault. You may be charged with a misdemeanor assault offense, or “simple assault” if you knowingly or recklessly cause bodily injury to someone or if you cause bodily injury with a deadly weapon acting with criminal negligence.

The rest of the assault classifications come from using a deadly weapon.


A slap isn't gonna cause 'bodily injury' .. and isn't considered a deadly weapon.


Try again.
 

piasabird

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I think most people that punish a 2 year old would limit it to a pat on the behind with the diaper still on. Actually spanking the bare behind of a 2 year old is a bit harsh. I have mixed feelings on this. Well if she ever gets her kids back, maybe grandma should never get to see them again. I would think this has to go deeper than this. Most grandmas would have a discussion first before taking the child to the doctor. On some levels this would constitute kid-napping.

Maybe Grandma will get spanked.

This just seems like an awful drastic step to take.
 

Broheim

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well, moron, you LOSE, because the LAW disagrees with you

The least serious assault classification is 3rd degree assault. You may be charged with a misdemeanor assault offense, or “simple assault” if you knowingly or recklessly cause bodily injury to someone or if you cause bodily injury with a deadly weapon acting with criminal negligence.

The rest of the assault classifications come from using a deadly weapon.


A slap isn't gonna cause 'bodily injury' .. and isn't considered a deadly weapon.


Try again.

"bodily harm" is very vague, but at the very least it's battery (which still makes it a crime, so his point still stands)
 

Perknose

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normally, an assault is intended to maim or injure the person.

a spanking is not.

You are apparently unaware of the legal definition of assault. It can consist of no contact at all, or it can consist of merely "offensive" contact with no maiming or injury inflicted or intended.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Assault+(crime)

At Common Law, an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.

An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal or civil liability. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and Tort Law. There is, however, an additional Criminal Law category of assault consisting of an attempted but unsuccessful Battery.
 

Perknose

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well, moron, you LOSE, because the LAW disagrees with you

The least serious assault classification is 3rd degree assault. You may be charged with a misdemeanor assault offense, or “simple assault” if you knowingly or recklessly cause bodily injury to someone or if you cause bodily injury with a deadly weapon acting with criminal negligence.

The rest of the assault classifications come from using a deadly weapon.


A slap isn't gonna cause 'bodily injury' .. and isn't considered a deadly weapon.


Try again.

Per my previous post, you are utterly and completely wrong, which you probably know, since you posted WITH NO LINK.

POST YOUR LINK!
 

guyver01

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You are apparently unaware of the legal definition of assault. It can consist of no contact at all, or it can consist of merely "offensive" contact with no maiming or injury inflicted or intended.

i am fully aware of the legal definition of assault, as it relates to MY STATE, which to me is all that matters. I'm in Colorado, the definition of Assault in Michigan doesn't relate to me.

Here is the legal definition of assault in the 3rd degree, as COLORADO sees it.


The least serious assault classification is 3rd degree assault. You may be charged with a misdemeanor assault offense, or “simple assault” if you knowingly or recklessly cause bodily injury to someone or if you cause bodily injury with a deadly weapon acting with criminal negligence.
 

guyver01

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