Texas executes Mexican national

[Brovane]

Sure he did.

If you want respect from the law, first you have to give respect. You give respect by following and abiding by the law.

But it does not matter now. There is a waiting line to use the execution table.

What I am ashamed of, Texas only executed like 18 people in 2013.

That is circular logic. If you don't respect the law then you get no protection from the law? So based on that once you violate the law you have no legal rights?

 

[CLite]

It is one of the few states where everyday citizens died for the idea of freedom. We fought for our freedom, won it, had our own government and our own president. Texas was a sovereign nation. That pride still runs deep.

One of the few states? How about the 13 founding states whose ordinary citizens stood up to the mightiest army in the world at the time (British)? Plenty of historically significant revolutionary war sites here in ole' NJ.

We fought for our freedom, won it, had our own government and our own president. USA was/is a sovereign nation. That pride still runs deep.

 

[PRAISE__SATAN]

If you want respect from the law, first you have to give respect. You give respect by following and abiding by the law.

No. Murderers are human. Murderers have rights. Murderers deserve protection.

 

[Drako]

No. Murderers are human. Murderers have rights. Murderers deserve protection.

Oh look. Someone else who doesn't seem to know the difference between murder and execution.

 

[Texashiker]

No. Murderers are human. Murderers have rights. Murderers deserve protection.

Everytime you post something half way serious I look at your username.

You should be happy Texas is sending satan so many minions.

So based on that once you violate the law you have no legal rights?

That is not correct.

Having access to diplomatic services would not have changed the facts.

 

[PRAISE__SATAN]

Oh look. Someone else who doesn't seem to know the difference between murder and execution.

Execution is a label murderers use to justify their inhuman actions against their fellow men. They use the label "execution", "death penalty", "ultimate penalty" or they call it justice in order to twist reality more to their liking, easier for them to accept those labels rather than that they really want to murder humans.

 

[Brovane]

Everytime you post something half way serious I look at your username.

You should be happy Texas is sending satan so many minions.




That is not correct.

Having access to diplomatic services would not have changed the facts.

No it wouldn't have changed the facts. However the person is still entitled to counsular access because of their citizenship regardless of the facts.

 

[monovillage]

Umm, how can this be legal? America not only murders it's own citizens but foreign citizens as well? Murdering citizens I don't understand but murdering foreigners too... I guess this is an example of how the US is a christian country like I've heard plenty of people say.

It was just an abortion that took place after his birth, so it's OK.

 

[Texashiker]

No it wouldn't have changed the facts. However the person is still entitled to counsular access because of their citizenship regardless of the facts.

Oops, sorry, maybe next time.

I love the taste of liberal tears in the morning. They taste like,,,,, victory.

 

[IGBT]

crap..no endless appeals / protests / pic's of when he was in the stroller eating Skittles??

 

[Brovane]

Oops, sorry, maybe next time.

I love the taste of liberal tears in the morning. They taste like,,,,, victory.

 

[Geosurface]

It would certainly be a mess if say, Italy had executed the innocent American Amanda Knox, but I favor a double standard in the case of certain problematic nations.

Due to how Mexico regards our laws and sovereignty, I see no reason to respect theirs or hesitate to execute a guy like this where the evidence was clear.

I favor this same approach toward the notorious terrorist producing nations of the Middle East. We need not respect nations which deserve none.

Double standards get a really bad rap these days but they are crucial to any thinking person's outlook. It's called being discerning.

 

[Scotteq]

crap..no endless appeals / protests / pic's of when he was in the stroller eating Skittles??

Hey now - Skittles is a good dog, and I'm sure he enjoyed that very much.

 

[nehalem256]

Maybe Mexico should spend less time complaining about their cop killing citizens being executed in America and more time going after the drug traffickers in their own country?

 

[Scotteq]

Maybe Mexico should spend less time complaining about their cop killing citizens being executed in America and more time going after the drug traffickers in their own country?

The ones supported by the DEA and ATF? Or the others?

 

[rudeguy]

Maybe Mexico should spend less time complaining about their cop killing citizens being executed in America and more time going after the drug traffickers in their own country?

Lets just put up a fence with a big warning sign, saying trespassers will be shot. In this case, I'd even be in favor of it being printed in Spanish. Set up automated monitoring so we know when anyone gets close to the fence. We have drones, we have helicopters, we have boats. Lets use them for something good for a change.

 

[WHAMPOM]

International treaties do not apply to the states.

When the federal government enters into a treaty with a nation, the states do not have to follow the treaty as it does not apply to them.




Understood.

Product of the Sterling Texas Educational system are you?

edit Forgot the LOL

 

[TerryMathews]

I may have missed it, but do we know he was not granted his rights under Vienna or are we speaking hypothetically?

I would think if it were the case Kerry would have led with it.

 

[rudeguy]

I may have missed it, but do we know he was not granted his rights under Vienna or are we speaking hypothetically?

I would think if it were the case Kerry would have led with it.

The article implies that he was not granted those rights. Like most articles now, the facts are slim. However it does mention Texas not being in compliance with the treaty and that the law to make them be compliant is currently held up.

 

[brycejones]

So where can I buy a 10 mile wide paint brush?

At the Home Depot in Texas. You can do it they will help....or you can hire some guys in the parking lot to help.

 

[brycejones]

I may have missed it, but do we know he was not granted his rights under Vienna or are we speaking hypothetically?

I would think if it were the case Kerry would have led with it.

He was not informed of his rights under the Vienna convention and as far as I can tell the Mexican government was not informed of his status until long after the fact. Which is why Kerry was involved.

I don't think anyone here is defending a murderer just asking Texas to actually abide by international treaties. Doing so doesn't cause the wheels of justice to stop turning.

 

[Scotteq]

He was not informed of his rights under the Vienna convention and as far as I can tell the Mexican government was not informed of his status until long after the fact. Which is why Kerry was involved.

I don't think anyone here is defending a murderer just asking Texas to actually abide by international treaties. Doing so doesn't cause the wheels of justice to stop turning.

This Vienna Convention?? http://www.state.gov/s/l/treaty/faqs/70139.htm

 

[thraashman]

This Vienna Convention?? http://www.state.gov/s/l/treaty/faqs/70139.htm

No, this one
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+V...r+Relations:+a+study+of+rights,...-a020862667

The Senate subsequently approved the Vienna Convention on October 22, 1969, and it was formally ratified by President Nixon on November 12, 1969.(59) The ratification was deposited on November 24, 1969, and it entered into force for the United States on December 24, 1969.

 

[TerryMathews]

He was not informed of his rights under the Vienna convention and as far as I can tell the Mexican government was not informed of his status

Link?

 

[unokitty]

Don't want to be subject to Texas justice?

Don't come to Texas and shoot an officer, such as Guy Gaddis above, three times in the back of the head.

Sympathy for Officer Gaddis' family, his widow, and his now 10 year old child that will never ever meet their father.

No sympathy for the murderer.

No respect for the self appointed 'World Court.'

Uno