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Texas county bans parking near Bush ranch

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daveshel

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WACO, Texas (AP) -- Two weeks after Cindy Sheehan left her anti-war campsite by the road leading to President Bush's ranch, county commissioners have banned parking along 23 miles of roads in the area.

Before the 4-1 vote Tuesday, McLennan County Commissioner Ray Meadows said about 80 residents had complained of blocked roads, loud music and public health and safety concerns during the 26-day protest near Bush's ranch outside Crawford, about 20 miles west of Waco.

"It's not a First Amendment issue. It's a safety issue," Meadows said, adding that "no parking" signs could be put up this week.
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Gee, do we have any safety issues in Iraq? Seems like Cindy thought so.
 
I'll have to side with the residents on this one. They're the ones who live there and had to deal with the annoyance of the media and protesters.
 
It brings up a legitimate question of just "where" can you go to protest something and be seen. The essence of protesting is that it has to be public and generally some obstructing has to happen to get any attention. I don't think its good to allow leaders to fully isolate themselves from the public.
 
Originally posted by: Crono
I'll have to side with the residents on this one. They're the ones who live there and had to deal with the annoyance of the media and protesters.
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Exactly. The line has to be drawn somewhere...
 
i think perhaps the "line" should be far short of "no parking" on every bit of 23 miles of roads in the area.

We have manditory public access for the beach, why not the president?
 
Originally posted by: mikeford
It brings up a legitimate question of just "where" can you go to protest something and be seen. The essence of protesting is that it has to be public and generally some obstructing has to happen to get any attention. I don't think its good to allow leaders to fully isolate themselves from the public.
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Kind of un-American, isn't it?
 
Originally posted by: daveshel
Originally posted by: mikeford
It brings up a legitimate question of just "where" can you go to protest something and be seen. The essence of protesting is that it has to be public and generally some obstructing has to happen to get any attention. I don't think its good to allow leaders to fully isolate themselves from the public.
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Kind of un-American, isn't it?
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You can be American all you want as long as you're not a nuisance. I used to own a home that was across the street from a high-school baseball field. The back entrance to the school was right across the street from me. When school officials forgot to unlock the gate, I'd have 50 cars parked along the street next to my yard (my property was 2.5 acres, so big front yard).

These people would hoot and shout after the game ended (after 10PM), they'd litter, they'd crank their stereos, and they?d rev their little riceburner 4-cyl engines and otherwise be a public nuisance.

My solution? I placed large concrete blocks right next to the road. People could no longer park there. They lost their "right" because they were a bunch of a$$holes.

You're right to be free and American-like ends when you piss me off. These people's right to party^H^H^H^H^Hprotest ends when they've disrupted the lives of everyone else who lives in the area of the president?s ranch. Their right to litter, block a public roadway, draw international media (and all of their news helicopters) and create a mess disappears when the quality of life of everyone else goes down the toilet.

Welcome to the hard facts of life.
 
Originally posted by: Crono
I'll have to side with the residents on this one. They're the ones who live there and had to deal with the annoyance of the media and protesters.
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:thumbsup:

I sure in the hell wouldn't want those loud, raving liberals anywhere near my property.
 
Here's how I imagine it. Back in '94, the Grateful Dead came to town. Good times. But the Rainbow family came up from their forest strongholds near Eugene to see the show, and happened to stay near where a buddy of mine lived at the time. Hundreds of them packed into the parking lot of a nearby store, playing music, all but blocking access, handing out flyers about the environment, chanting, etc. And when they left? Piles and piles of litter and filth left in the parking lot the like of which I have never seen.
 
Originally posted by: daveshel
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WACO, Texas (AP) -- Two weeks after Cindy Sheehan left her anti-war campsite by the road leading to President Bush's ranch, county commissioners have banned parking along 23 miles of roads in the area.

Before the 4-1 vote Tuesday, McLennan County Commissioner Ray Meadows said about 80 residents had complained of blocked roads, loud music and public health and safety concerns during the 26-day protest near Bush's ranch outside Crawford, about 20 miles west of Waco.

"It's not a First Amendment issue. It's a safety issue," Meadows said, adding that "no parking" signs could be put up this week.
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Gee, do we have any safety issues in Iraq? Seems like Cindy thought so.
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Parking is easy to beat, just haev a volunteer sit in the drivers seat. That is called standing and not illegal in a no parking zone.
 
Originally posted by: operaman1
Originally posted by: Crono
I'll have to side with the residents on this one. They're the ones who live there and had to deal with the annoyance of the media and protesters.
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Exactly. The line has to be drawn somewhere...
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Well, this is the MOST VACATIONED PRESIDENT EVER, so where het hell else are you supposed to go to try and send a message?
 
I'm sorry, but does anyone else find it awful... that there's a county in Texas called Texas county? You'd think they'd be a LITTLE more original...
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Here's how I imagine it. Back in '94, the Grateful Dead came to town. Good times. But the Rainbow family came up from their forest strongholds near Eugene to see the show, and happened to stay near where a buddy of mine lived at the time. Hundreds of them packed into the parking lot of a nearby store, playing music, all but blocking access, handing out flyers about the environment, chanting, etc. And when they left? Piles and piles of litter and filth left in the parking lot the like of which I have never seen.
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Dead shows, great as they were, are not part of the democratic ideal of free and robust discourse of political issues. Protesting the president's policy is.

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
I'm sorry, but does anyone else find it awful... that there's a county in Texas called Texas county? You'd think they'd be a LITTLE more original...
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They were. The county's name is McLennan. It is in Texas, so it is a Texas county.
 
Originally posted by: daveshel
Dead shows, great as they were, are not part of the democratic ideal of free and robust discourse of political issues. Protesting the president's policy is.
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They were when the Rainbow family showed up, let me tell ya...
 
We are the rainbow family, screaming with our mouth and sh!ting our our ass. It's the dissonance of unrecognized self hate.
 
Originally posted by: mikeford
It brings up a legitimate question of just "where" can you go to protest something and be seen.
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Why, the government designated 'freedom zones' of course.

 
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