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Texas Bill to Require Presidential Candidates to Submit Birth Certificate

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meh, one bill filed by one politician that will likely never see the light of day. big frickin' deal.
 
werepossum said:
Politicians need to understand that pushing such a bill while Obama is president just makes you look like a 'tard. If it's a good bill, introduce it in '12 or '16 and DON'T look like a 'tard. So much.
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They're not savvy enough to recognize that they *are* 'tards, which is why they persist.

Obama has produced the same kind of birth certificate issued to every person born in Hawaii who asks for a replacement of the original. The repub governor of Hawaii has attested to its validity, and then there's that little issue of his birth announcement...

I seriously doubt that any of the raving birthers could provide anything better wrt their own birth... which matters to them not at all. It's just a way of claiming to have been cheated, even though Obama won the election fair and square...
 
dainthomas said:
Didn't you know Obama is actually a Time Lord who flew himself to Hawaii in his Tardis right after he was supposedly born there and put his own fake birth announcement in the paper?

It's the only explanation.
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Fantastic!


when I was in the hospital last week and I pressed the dilaudid button one too many times I thought I saw the face of bowe...

freaked my shit out good...
 
Fern said:
You're ascribing an intent to it.

IMO, border states with an illegal immigration are a damn good place to start demanding proof of qualifications for office.



"Lawfull" is defined by the government (state or federal, as the case may be). IIRC, for some time (possibly even still) some divisions of the HI government itself did not accept those fascimilies and required the original. So, to act as though all other states/government must accept a fascimile makes no sense.

Obama has a HI birth certificate; I don't doubt that. But which type? It better be the normal one, or things will get interesting.

This should have been resolved already.

Indulge me for a moment. Let's say his mother couldn't make the flight to the USA to give birth as has been claimed. So she comes a few days after his birth in Kenya. She then applies for the delayed BC, and of course a birth announcment would be in the newspaper. This single mother with a black child can now register him in scholls etc. Life goes happily along.

Now, fast forward. We have seen his relatives in Kenya claim he was born there. Kenya has purportedly sealed any records they may have of him until he leaves office. So what happens if after he leaves office we do find he was born in Kenya? What about all the bills he signed into law? Are they nullified? Is Obamacare now, well for lack of a better term, 'overturned'? Do we have a huge Constutional mess on our hands? I think so.

Candidates need to have their qualifications for office certified. We shouldn't be putting ourselves into such a position no matter how small the odds.

Fern
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Blah....blah....blah. Uber birther bitch Orly Taitz filed a lawsuit claming Obama was born in Kenya and produced her version of his alleged Kenyan birth certificate. It says he was born in the Republic of Kenya. Unfortunately the Republic of Kenya didn't exist until 1963.

small problem

Damn those pesky facts
 
If Texas doesn't want to participate in national elections... that's their business.

But... i say we immediately remove their senators, their representatives, and their "pork projects" ..

All or None.
 
Turin39789 said:
holy shit Fern's a birther
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surprised me too..


If I was Obama I would pledge to show the birth certificate on national television-even better FOX NEWS- if all the birthers pledged 3 thousand dollars each to charity if the total amount was over 30 million...

If they raise over 60 million for charity I would also pledge to wear another flag pin on his lapel for every 10 million extra raised!!

IMAGINE HOW PATRIOTIC HE WOULD BE WITH 20 FLAG PINS!!
 
Not sure why this is a big deal either way.

Its in the constitution so why shouldn't someone check?
If the feds wont due their job to ensure the constitution is being enforced then it is up to the states.
 
Patranus said:
Not sure why this is a big deal either way.

Its in the constitution so why shouldn't someone check?
If the feds wont due their job to ensure the constitution is being enforced then it is up to the states.
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So, uhh, you're just making a slur against the Secret Service and the FBI, both of whom undoubtedly investigated Obama's qualifications, or you're just a backhanded birther, or what?
 
Patranus said:
Not sure why this is a big deal either way.

Its in the constitution so why shouldn't someone check?
If the feds wont due their job to ensure the constitution is being enforced then it is up to the states.
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its been verified...its just that people kling to insanity like its their favorite sweater...
 
Fern said:
That's absurd when the only mechanism for establishing qualification is that they 'say so'.

To put it another way, there is no evidence that we have any mechanism to establish anyone's qualifications. We merely take their word for it.

Fern
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The US Constitution says:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
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Nothing in there says anything about any state being able to set restrictions, to demand proof of birth, or to challenge the candidate's statement of birthplace.

You'd have to amend the Constitution in order to allow any one state to set such a rule.
 
Yes, let's not take any chances that even though all of our intelligence agencies combined couldn't find a single iota of evidence that Obama was not born on US soil, a candidate still must prove it to the State of Texas and all of those other birthers out there with a "real" birth certificate.

This, all because of dirty campaign rumors spread around by right wing swiftboat-style 527'ers and their ilk.

Now that makes perfect sense. /sarcasm
 
guyver01 said:
If Texas doesn't want to participate in national elections... that's their business.

But... i say we immediately remove their senators, their representatives, and their "pork projects" ..

All or None.
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No problem. Texas should secede and cut off the oil/electrical supplies to other states.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
No problem. Texas should secede and cut off the oil/electrical supplies to other states.
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As long as texas agrees to give up their imports..

The following top 10 imports account for 54.2% of products delivered to Texas last year:


  1. Crude oil … $14.7 billion (33% of Texas imports, down 40.1%)
  2. Cell phones … $9.1 billion (7.2%, up 9.5%)
  3. Refined oil … $3.9 billion (4.4%, down 30.5%)
  4. Voice, image and data transmission equipment … $3.6 billion (1.9%, down 8.9%)
  5. Computer parts and accessories … $3.4 billion (1.7%, up 56.4%)
  6. Digital processing units … $2.9 billion (1.6%, up 207.5%)
  7. Color television reception equipment … $2.6 billion (1.4%, up 35.1%)
  8. Light petroleum oils … $1.8 billion (1.3%, down 66%)
  9. Parts of phones and other transmission appliances … $1.74 billion (0.9%, down 21.5%)
  10. Insulated wiring sets for vehicles, ships and aircraft … $1.68 billion (0.8%, down 24.8%).
Texan purchases of imported digital processing units soared by 207.5% in 2009. Imports of cell phones, computer parts, and color TV receptors also showed gains over 2008. The other 6 import categories fell by as much as 66% for light petroleum oils.

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http://www.suite101.com/content/top-texas-exports-and-imports-a238965#ixzz15jlpsgVb
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Passing a law to target an individual or group never works. Look at the AMT....its been a headache for years... plus look at the Terry Schiavo case...dumb dumb dumb
 
hal2kilo said:
Where was your demand for GWB's birth certificate? Oh, yea he wasn't just half white.
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He didn't have a history of not living in the US. And he didn't have family members claiming he was born in another country.

It really is sad that people no longer care about upholding the laws of this nation. If someone is asked to prove they meet the requirements, they no longer provide such proof on demand, they stall, balk, and wait it out.
We still haven't seen his college records. I have a feeling the reason is he did worse in school than GWB.
 
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