Texans, specifically those that dont own a home, prepare to get bent over

[digitalsm]

The House proposal to fix education, and lower property taxes, is

$1 per pack cigarette tax increase
$1 amusement ticket surchage, for movies and amusement activities
.25% sales tax increase
1.25% motor vehicle sales tax increase
new service taxes on barber and beauty services, legal services, accounting services, veterinary services, interior design services, and others.
Several sales tax exemptions will be done away with.

All this to compensate for a $.50 reduction in property taxes per $100 appraised value, plus a net gain of $700million, to go to under funded schools. Even though Texas and the TEA want to spend hundreds of millions to equip every student in 6th-12th grade with laptops by 2010.

Most home owners, will overall be paying less in taxes, but the vast majority of people will recieve a HUGE jump in taxes. Renters wont be paying less rent because of property tax reduction, then they have to pay the increases to cover the home owners reduction in taxes.

If you plan on purchasing a vehicle in the next year, Id do it sooner, rather than later.

 

[beer]

When you rent aparrtments, the property owner does pay property taxes and passes them onto you in terms of rent increases (or, in this case, decreases)

 

[beer]

Also, if you could give a link, that'd be great. I hadn't read about the motor vehicle tax, tax on barber/beauty/accounting/etc, either.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: beer
When you rent aparrtments, the property owner does pay property taxes and passes them onto you in terms of rent increases (or, in this case, decreases)

They are NOT required to decrease your rent, if their tax goes down. Atleast IIRC.

House Bill 1 should make its way on line sometime today/tomorrow. Im not totally sure about the service taxes, I read that in the local paper, but the motor vehicle tax will go up to 7.75%, they changed the sales tax rate in the bill, its no longer a .25% increase, but a 50% increase. Taxes on boats will be at 7.75% as well. Buisnesses will now also have to pay a 1.25% payroll tax, with a cap of $500, per employee.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Let's hear it for the incredibly enlightened state of Texas for making their regressive tax structure even more regressive.

 

[digitalsm]

Well HB 1 wont be making it out today. Looks like it might be awhile. Im still skepitical of them getting this stuff done in 30 days.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: beer
When you rent aparrtments, the property owner does pay property taxes and passes them onto you in terms of rent increases (or, in this case, decreases)

They are NOT required to decrease your rent, if their tax goes down. Atleast IIRC.

House Bill 1 should make its way on line sometime today/tomorrow. Im not totally sure about the service taxes, I read that in the local paper, but the motor vehicle tax will go up to 7.75%, they changed the sales tax rate in the bill, its no longer a .25% increase, but a 50% increase. Taxes on boats will be at 7.75% as well. Buisnesses will now also have to pay a 1.25% payroll tax, with a cap of $500, per employee.

Hopefully the payroll tax will get killed.

While property owners do not have to pass on property tax savings, they likely will as the cost of renting will get cheaper. Property taxes make a big chunk of owning property here(about a 1/3 of monthly cost).

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: beer
When you rent aparrtments, the property owner does pay property taxes and passes them onto you in terms of rent increases (or, in this case, decreases)

They are NOT required to decrease your rent, if their tax goes down. Atleast IIRC.

House Bill 1 should make its way on line sometime today/tomorrow. Im not totally sure about the service taxes, I read that in the local paper, but the motor vehicle tax will go up to 7.75%, they changed the sales tax rate in the bill, its no longer a .25% increase, but a 50% increase. Taxes on boats will be at 7.75% as well. Buisnesses will now also have to pay a 1.25% payroll tax, with a cap of $500, per employee.

Hopefully the payroll tax will get killed.

While property owners do not have to pass on property tax savings, they likely will as the cost of renting will get cheaper. Property taxes make a big chunk of owning property here(about a 1/3 of monthly cost).

The payroll tax replaces the even more ludicris plan Perry had. Im not really holding my breath on companies reducing their rental rates, when the property tax goes down. I just dont see it happening, except in places where there are high precentages of vacancies from over building in the dot com era, coupled with the housing boom.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: beer
When you rent aparrtments, the property owner does pay property taxes and passes them onto you in terms of rent increases (or, in this case, decreases)

They are NOT required to decrease your rent, if their tax goes down. Atleast IIRC.

House Bill 1 should make its way on line sometime today/tomorrow. Im not totally sure about the service taxes, I read that in the local paper, but the motor vehicle tax will go up to 7.75%, they changed the sales tax rate in the bill, its no longer a .25% increase, but a 50% increase. Taxes on boats will be at 7.75% as well. Buisnesses will now also have to pay a 1.25% payroll tax, with a cap of $500, per employee.

Hopefully the payroll tax will get killed.

While property owners do not have to pass on property tax savings, they likely will as the cost of renting will get cheaper. Property taxes make a big chunk of owning property here(about a 1/3 of monthly cost).

The payroll tax replaces the even more ludicris plan Perry had. Im not really holding my breath on companies reducing their rental rates, when property tax goes down.

It will, it will likely take time however(leases have to expire).

 

[CPA]

well digitalsm, why don't you give me your plan for reducing my skyrocketing property taxes, hmmmm?

When the current laws allow appraisal districts (appraisers are not elected, by the way) to tax me up to 30% within a 3 year period - 1000 times the rate of inflation - something is wrong.

More houses are foreclosed because of delinquent property taxes than any other reason in Texas.

I don't propose an income tax, but I have no problem paying a consumption tax in order to reduce my rate of growth in taxable appraised value. At least then I have the choice of whether to pay it or not.

You should check out a group called C.L.O.U.T. which is working with the legislature to reduce spending (the real culprit in all of this) and to reduce our tax burden. 15000+ members and growing (I am a member and financially support them).

There is a reason why Perry called a special session on this, even after last year's attempts were halted in committee: it's because the public is starting to get angry and loud over these high tax bills and changes are needed.

 

[Steeplerot]

Why would you live there anyhow?

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: steeplerot
Why would you live there anyhow?

haha, you must be Californian....yep, you are

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: steeplerot
Why would you live there anyhow?

We have good jobs, affordable housing and no income tax.

Oh yeah, and we have stable electrical supplies

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: CPA
well digitalsm, why don't you give me your plan for reducing my skyrocketing property taxes, hmmmm?

When the current laws allow appraisal districts (appraisers are not elected, by the way) to tax me up to 30% within a 3 year period - 1000 times the rate of inflation - something is wrong.

More houses are foreclosed because of delinquent property taxes than any other reason in Texas.

I don't propose an income tax, but I have no problem paying a consumption tax in order to reduce my rate of growth in taxable appraised value. At least then I have the choice of whether to pay it or not.

You should check out a group called C.L.O.U.T. which is working with the legislature to reduce spending (the real culprit in all of this) and to reduce our tax burden. 15000+ members and growing (I am a member and financially support them).

There is a reason why Perry called a special session on this, even after last year's attempts were halted in committee: it's because the public is starting to get angry and loud over these high tax bills and changes are needed.

You do realise the tax issue, is really a side issue. The main reason this special session was called, is the Texas Supreme Court is expected to rule in favor of the various school districts sueing the state over Robin Hood. Robin Hood is the main cause of ~45% of places in Texas at the max tax cap.

Yes property taxes need to be decreased, I never said they didnt, the way they plan on doing it is going to cause massive problems. As for appraisal districts jacking up the value up to 10% a year. Most are not increased anywhere near 10% a year. Not to mention, you CAN appeal, for the cost of court fees, an appraisal. 9 times out of 10, they will lower the appraisal. Looking at the clout website, they try to push this nonsense of retirees needing such and such to pay taxes in retirement. The elderly in the vast majority of places in Texas have their tax cut in half, or frozen once they reach a certain age.

These numbers proposed by clout, are the worst case scenario, and dont happen all that often, in the grand scheme of things. Im sure its happened some, but its not the norm.

All I can say, CLOUT loses ALL credibility by supporting Perry's plan. Perry's plan would spell disaster for Texas.

Im not one to harp on the tax cuts for the rich, but the fact of the matter is, doing what the legislature proposes, further increases the tax burden on the lower and middle class. 60% of Texans will be paying MORE taxes. People say the property tax puts on unfair burden on home owners, but EVERYONE feels the effect of property taxes.

I personally want to see some independent acutrials look over the numbers, Im betting the numbers they would come up with would be significantly different than the legislatures.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
well digitalsm, why don't you give me your plan for reducing my skyrocketing property taxes, hmmmm?

When the current laws allow appraisal districts (appraisers are not elected, by the way) to tax me up to 30% within a 3 year period - 1000 times the rate of inflation - something is wrong.

More houses are foreclosed because of delinquent property taxes than any other reason in Texas.

I don't propose an income tax, but I have no problem paying a consumption tax in order to reduce my rate of growth in taxable appraised value. At least then I have the choice of whether to pay it or not.

You should check out a group called C.L.O.U.T. which is working with the legislature to reduce spending (the real culprit in all of this) and to reduce our tax burden. 15000+ members and growing (I am a member and financially support them).

There is a reason why Perry called a special session on this, even after last year's attempts were halted in committee: it's because the public is starting to get angry and loud over these high tax bills and changes are needed.

You do realise the tax issue, is really a side issue. The main reason this special session was called, is the Texas Supreme Court is expected to rule in favor of the various school districts sueing the state over Robin Hood. Robin Hood is the main cause of ~45% of places in Texas at the max tax cap.

Yes property taxes need to be decreased, I never said they didnt, the way they plan on doing it is going to cause massive problems. As for appraisal districts jacking up the value up to 10% a year. Most are not increased anywhere near 10% a year. Not to mention, you CAN appeal, for the cost of court fees, an appraisal. 9 times out of 10, they will lower the appraisal. Looking at the clout website, they try to push this nonsense of retirees needing such and such to pay taxes in retirement. The elderly in the vast majority of places in Texas have their tax cut in half, or frozen once they reach a certain age.

These numbers proposed by clout, are the worst case scenario, and dont happen all that often, in the grand scheme of things. Im sure its happened some, but its not the norm.

All I can say, CLOUT loses ALL credibility by supporting Perry's plan. Perry's plan would spell disaster for Texas.

I personally want to see some independent acutrials look over the numbers, Im betting they will come up with different numbers.

Well mine have gone up about 10% a year since i got my house 2 years ago..

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
well digitalsm, why don't you give me your plan for reducing my skyrocketing property taxes, hmmmm?

When the current laws allow appraisal districts (appraisers are not elected, by the way) to tax me up to 30% within a 3 year period - 1000 times the rate of inflation - something is wrong.

More houses are foreclosed because of delinquent property taxes than any other reason in Texas.

I don't propose an income tax, but I have no problem paying a consumption tax in order to reduce my rate of growth in taxable appraised value. At least then I have the choice of whether to pay it or not.

You should check out a group called C.L.O.U.T. which is working with the legislature to reduce spending (the real culprit in all of this) and to reduce our tax burden. 15000+ members and growing (I am a member and financially support them).

There is a reason why Perry called a special session on this, even after last year's attempts were halted in committee: it's because the public is starting to get angry and loud over these high tax bills and changes are needed.

You do realise the tax issue, is really a side issue. The main reason this special session was called, is the Texas Supreme Court is expected to rule in favor of the various school districts sueing the state over Robin Hood. Robin Hood is the main cause of ~45% of places in Texas at the max tax cap.

Yes property taxes need to be decreased, I never said they didnt, the way they plan on doing it is going to cause massive problems. As for appraisal districts jacking up the value up to 10% a year. Most are not increased anywhere near 10% a year. Not to mention, you CAN appeal, for the cost of court fees, an appraisal. 9 times out of 10, they will lower the appraisal. Looking at the clout website, they try to push this nonsense of retirees needing such and such to pay taxes in retirement. The elderly in the vast majority of places in Texas have their tax cut in half, or frozen once they reach a certain age.

These numbers proposed by clout, are the worst case scenario, and dont happen all that often, in the grand scheme of things. Im sure its happened some, but its not the norm.

All I can say, CLOUT loses ALL credibility by supporting Perry's plan. Perry's plan would spell disaster for Texas.

I personally want to see some independent acutrials look over the numbers, Im betting they will come up with different numbers.

Well mine have gone up about 10% a year since i got my house 2 years ago..

If people used the system to their advantage that wouldnt happen.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
well digitalsm, why don't you give me your plan for reducing my skyrocketing property taxes, hmmmm?

When the current laws allow appraisal districts (appraisers are not elected, by the way) to tax me up to 30% within a 3 year period - 1000 times the rate of inflation - something is wrong.

More houses are foreclosed because of delinquent property taxes than any other reason in Texas.

I don't propose an income tax, but I have no problem paying a consumption tax in order to reduce my rate of growth in taxable appraised value. At least then I have the choice of whether to pay it or not.

You should check out a group called C.L.O.U.T. which is working with the legislature to reduce spending (the real culprit in all of this) and to reduce our tax burden. 15000+ members and growing (I am a member and financially support them).

There is a reason why Perry called a special session on this, even after last year's attempts were halted in committee: it's because the public is starting to get angry and loud over these high tax bills and changes are needed.

You do realise the tax issue, is really a side issue. The main reason this special session was called, is the Texas Supreme Court is expected to rule in favor of the various school districts sueing the state over Robin Hood. Robin Hood is the main cause of ~45% of places in Texas at the max tax cap.

Yes property taxes need to be decreased, I never said they didnt, the way they plan on doing it is going to cause massive problems. As for appraisal districts jacking up the value up to 10% a year. Most are not increased anywhere near 10% a year. Not to mention, you CAN appeal, for the cost of court fees, an appraisal. 9 times out of 10, they will lower the appraisal. Looking at the clout website, they try to push this nonsense of retirees needing such and such to pay taxes in retirement. The elderly in the vast majority of places in Texas have their tax cut in half, or frozen once they reach a certain age.

These numbers proposed by clout, are the worst case scenario, and dont happen all that often, in the grand scheme of things. Im sure its happened some, but its not the norm.

All I can say, CLOUT loses ALL credibility by supporting Perry's plan. Perry's plan would spell disaster for Texas.

I personally want to see some independent acutrials look over the numbers, Im betting they will come up with different numbers.

Well mine have gone up about 10% a year since i got my house 2 years ago..

If people used the system to their advantage that wouldnt happen.

You can get reductions, it is not easy however. After this year I will likely fight any property tax increase(doing refinance right now, so the added equity does not hurt).

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
well digitalsm, why don't you give me your plan for reducing my skyrocketing property taxes, hmmmm?

When the current laws allow appraisal districts (appraisers are not elected, by the way) to tax me up to 30% within a 3 year period - 1000 times the rate of inflation - something is wrong.

More houses are foreclosed because of delinquent property taxes than any other reason in Texas.

I don't propose an income tax, but I have no problem paying a consumption tax in order to reduce my rate of growth in taxable appraised value. At least then I have the choice of whether to pay it or not.

You should check out a group called C.L.O.U.T. which is working with the legislature to reduce spending (the real culprit in all of this) and to reduce our tax burden. 15000+ members and growing (I am a member and financially support them).

There is a reason why Perry called a special session on this, even after last year's attempts were halted in committee: it's because the public is starting to get angry and loud over these high tax bills and changes are needed.

You do realise the tax issue, is really a side issue. The main reason this special session was called, is the Texas Supreme Court is expected to rule in favor of the various school districts sueing the state over Robin Hood. Robin Hood is the main cause of ~45% of places in Texas at the max tax cap.

Yes property taxes need to be decreased, I never said they didnt, the way they plan on doing it is going to cause massive problems. As for appraisal districts jacking up the value up to 10% a year. Most are not increased anywhere near 10% a year. Not to mention, you CAN appeal, for the cost of court fees, an appraisal. 9 times out of 10, they will lower the appraisal. Looking at the clout website, they try to push this nonsense of retirees needing such and such to pay taxes in retirement. The elderly in the vast majority of places in Texas have their tax cut in half, or frozen once they reach a certain age.

These numbers proposed by clout, are the worst case scenario, and dont happen all that often, in the grand scheme of things. Im sure its happened some, but its not the norm.

All I can say, CLOUT loses ALL credibility by supporting Perry's plan. Perry's plan would spell disaster for Texas.

I personally want to see some independent acutrials look over the numbers, Im betting they will come up with different numbers.

Well mine have gone up about 10% a year since i got my house 2 years ago..

If people used the system to their advantage that wouldnt happen.

You can get reductions, it is not easy however. After this year I will likely fight any property tax increase(doing refinance right now, so the added equity does not hurt).

It depends on the appraisal district. Alot will lower the appraisal instead of going to court. It seems to me though, the tax rate of $1.50 per $100, isnt the problem then, its the appraisal system.

In any event, Texas will continue to run into problems, until we scrap our current constitution and create a new one. The Texas Govt and the people of Texas really need to look towards the future, and stop being short sighted.

And yes they need to be more fiscally responsible, some of the crap from the last session is asinine.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
well digitalsm, why don't you give me your plan for reducing my skyrocketing property taxes, hmmmm?

When the current laws allow appraisal districts (appraisers are not elected, by the way) to tax me up to 30% within a 3 year period - 1000 times the rate of inflation - something is wrong.

More houses are foreclosed because of delinquent property taxes than any other reason in Texas.

I don't propose an income tax, but I have no problem paying a consumption tax in order to reduce my rate of growth in taxable appraised value. At least then I have the choice of whether to pay it or not.

You should check out a group called C.L.O.U.T. which is working with the legislature to reduce spending (the real culprit in all of this) and to reduce our tax burden. 15000+ members and growing (I am a member and financially support them).

There is a reason why Perry called a special session on this, even after last year's attempts were halted in committee: it's because the public is starting to get angry and loud over these high tax bills and changes are needed.

You do realise the tax issue, is really a side issue. The main reason this special session was called, is the Texas Supreme Court is expected to rule in favor of the various school districts sueing the state over Robin Hood. Robin Hood is the main cause of ~45% of places in Texas at the max tax cap.

Yes property taxes need to be decreased, I never said they didnt, the way they plan on doing it is going to cause massive problems. As for appraisal districts jacking up the value up to 10% a year. Most are not increased anywhere near 10% a year. Not to mention, you CAN appeal, for the cost of court fees, an appraisal. 9 times out of 10, they will lower the appraisal. Looking at the clout website, they try to push this nonsense of retirees needing such and such to pay taxes in retirement. The elderly in the vast majority of places in Texas have their tax cut in half, or frozen once they reach a certain age.

These numbers proposed by clout, are the worst case scenario, and dont happen all that often, in the grand scheme of things. Im sure its happened some, but its not the norm.

All I can say, CLOUT loses ALL credibility by supporting Perry's plan. Perry's plan would spell disaster for Texas.

I personally want to see some independent acutrials look over the numbers, Im betting they will come up with different numbers.

Well mine have gone up about 10% a year since i got my house 2 years ago..

If people used the system to their advantage that wouldnt happen.

You can get reductions, it is not easy however. After this year I will likely fight any property tax increase(doing refinance right now, so the added equity does not hurt).

It depends on the appraisal district. Alot will lower the appraisal instead of going to court. It seems to me though, the tax rate of $1.50 per $100, isnt the problem then, its the appraisal system.

The system is broken. Just tax at the purchase price, keep it simple

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
well digitalsm, why don't you give me your plan for reducing my skyrocketing property taxes, hmmmm?

When the current laws allow appraisal districts (appraisers are not elected, by the way) to tax me up to 30% within a 3 year period - 1000 times the rate of inflation - something is wrong.

More houses are foreclosed because of delinquent property taxes than any other reason in Texas.

I don't propose an income tax, but I have no problem paying a consumption tax in order to reduce my rate of growth in taxable appraised value. At least then I have the choice of whether to pay it or not.

You should check out a group called C.L.O.U.T. which is working with the legislature to reduce spending (the real culprit in all of this) and to reduce our tax burden. 15000+ members and growing (I am a member and financially support them).

There is a reason why Perry called a special session on this, even after last year's attempts were halted in committee: it's because the public is starting to get angry and loud over these high tax bills and changes are needed.

You do realise the tax issue, is really a side issue. The main reason this special session was called, is the Texas Supreme Court is expected to rule in favor of the various school districts sueing the state over Robin Hood. Robin Hood is the main cause of ~45% of places in Texas at the max tax cap.

Yes property taxes need to be decreased, I never said they didnt, the way they plan on doing it is going to cause massive problems. As for appraisal districts jacking up the value up to 10% a year. Most are not increased anywhere near 10% a year. Not to mention, you CAN appeal, for the cost of court fees, an appraisal. 9 times out of 10, they will lower the appraisal. Looking at the clout website, they try to push this nonsense of retirees needing such and such to pay taxes in retirement. The elderly in the vast majority of places in Texas have their tax cut in half, or frozen once they reach a certain age.

These numbers proposed by clout, are the worst case scenario, and dont happen all that often, in the grand scheme of things. Im sure its happened some, but its not the norm.

All I can say, CLOUT loses ALL credibility by supporting Perry's plan. Perry's plan would spell disaster for Texas.

I personally want to see some independent acutrials look over the numbers, Im betting they will come up with different numbers.

Well mine have gone up about 10% a year since i got my house 2 years ago..

If people used the system to their advantage that wouldnt happen.

You can get reductions, it is not easy however. After this year I will likely fight any property tax increase(doing refinance right now, so the added equity does not hurt).

It depends on the appraisal district. Alot will lower the appraisal instead of going to court. It seems to me though, the tax rate of $1.50 per $100, isnt the problem then, its the appraisal system.

The system is broken. Just tax at the purchase price, keep it simple

Almost everything is broken in Texas.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
well digitalsm, why don't you give me your plan for reducing my skyrocketing property taxes, hmmmm?

When the current laws allow appraisal districts (appraisers are not elected, by the way) to tax me up to 30% within a 3 year period - 1000 times the rate of inflation - something is wrong.

More houses are foreclosed because of delinquent property taxes than any other reason in Texas.

I don't propose an income tax, but I have no problem paying a consumption tax in order to reduce my rate of growth in taxable appraised value. At least then I have the choice of whether to pay it or not.

You should check out a group called C.L.O.U.T. which is working with the legislature to reduce spending (the real culprit in all of this) and to reduce our tax burden. 15000+ members and growing (I am a member and financially support them).

There is a reason why Perry called a special session on this, even after last year's attempts were halted in committee: it's because the public is starting to get angry and loud over these high tax bills and changes are needed.

You do realise the tax issue, is really a side issue. The main reason this special session was called, is the Texas Supreme Court is expected to rule in favor of the various school districts sueing the state over Robin Hood. Robin Hood is the main cause of ~45% of places in Texas at the max tax cap.

Yes property taxes need to be decreased, I never said they didnt, the way they plan on doing it is going to cause massive problems. As for appraisal districts jacking up the value up to 10% a year. Most are not increased anywhere near 10% a year. Not to mention, you CAN appeal, for the cost of court fees, an appraisal. 9 times out of 10, they will lower the appraisal. Looking at the clout website, they try to push this nonsense of retirees needing such and such to pay taxes in retirement. The elderly in the vast majority of places in Texas have their tax cut in half, or frozen once they reach a certain age.

These numbers proposed by clout, are the worst case scenario, and dont happen all that often, in the grand scheme of things. Im sure its happened some, but its not the norm.

All I can say, CLOUT loses ALL credibility by supporting Perry's plan. Perry's plan would spell disaster for Texas.

I personally want to see some independent acutrials look over the numbers, Im betting they will come up with different numbers.

Well mine have gone up about 10% a year since i got my house 2 years ago..

If people used the system to their advantage that wouldnt happen.

You can get reductions, it is not easy however. After this year I will likely fight any property tax increase(doing refinance right now, so the added equity does not hurt).

It depends on the appraisal district. Alot will lower the appraisal instead of going to court. It seems to me though, the tax rate of $1.50 per $100, isnt the problem then, its the appraisal system.

The system is broken. Just tax at the purchase price, keep it simple

Almost everything is broken in Texas.

I would have to disagree.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
well digitalsm, why don't you give me your plan for reducing my skyrocketing property taxes, hmmmm?

When the current laws allow appraisal districts (appraisers are not elected, by the way) to tax me up to 30% within a 3 year period - 1000 times the rate of inflation - something is wrong.

More houses are foreclosed because of delinquent property taxes than any other reason in Texas.

I don't propose an income tax, but I have no problem paying a consumption tax in order to reduce my rate of growth in taxable appraised value. At least then I have the choice of whether to pay it or not.

You should check out a group called C.L.O.U.T. which is working with the legislature to reduce spending (the real culprit in all of this) and to reduce our tax burden. 15000+ members and growing (I am a member and financially support them).

There is a reason why Perry called a special session on this, even after last year's attempts were halted in committee: it's because the public is starting to get angry and loud over these high tax bills and changes are needed.

You do realise the tax issue, is really a side issue. The main reason this special session was called, is the Texas Supreme Court is expected to rule in favor of the various school districts sueing the state over Robin Hood. Robin Hood is the main cause of ~45% of places in Texas at the max tax cap.

Yes property taxes need to be decreased, I never said they didnt, the way they plan on doing it is going to cause massive problems. As for appraisal districts jacking up the value up to 10% a year. Most are not increased anywhere near 10% a year. Not to mention, you CAN appeal, for the cost of court fees, an appraisal. 9 times out of 10, they will lower the appraisal. Looking at the clout website, they try to push this nonsense of retirees needing such and such to pay taxes in retirement. The elderly in the vast majority of places in Texas have their tax cut in half, or frozen once they reach a certain age.

These numbers proposed by clout, are the worst case scenario, and dont happen all that often, in the grand scheme of things. Im sure its happened some, but its not the norm.

All I can say, CLOUT loses ALL credibility by supporting Perry's plan. Perry's plan would spell disaster for Texas.

I personally want to see some independent acutrials look over the numbers, Im betting they will come up with different numbers.

Well mine have gone up about 10% a year since i got my house 2 years ago..

If people used the system to their advantage that wouldnt happen.

You can get reductions, it is not easy however. After this year I will likely fight any property tax increase(doing refinance right now, so the added equity does not hurt).

It depends on the appraisal district. Alot will lower the appraisal instead of going to court. It seems to me though, the tax rate of $1.50 per $100, isnt the problem then, its the appraisal system.

The system is broken. Just tax at the purchase price, keep it simple

Almost everything is broken in Texas.

I would have to disagree.

Alot is either broken or has a temp band-aid holding it together. Texas has and even worse habit, than the federal govt, of putting band aids on things, instead of looking for a more permanent solution. Its why we are in the mess we are currently in.

Texas has some bright spots, but it has alot of issues as well.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: digitalsm


Alot is either broken or has a temp band-aid holding it together. Texas has and even worse habit, than the federal govt, of putting band aids on things, instead of looking for a more permanent solution.

I will still have to disagree. We are not without problems, but most things are not broke.....

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm


Alot is either broken or has a temp band-aid holding it together. Texas has and even worse habit, than the federal govt, of putting band aids on things, instead of looking for a more permanent solution.

I will still have to disagree. We are not without problems, but most things are not broke.....

Im not saying things are more broken than other states. Texas isnt. Most states are far worse. Maybe I shouldnt use broken, maybe I should use, things arent as good as they should be, or could be. Or maybe flawed.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: digitalsm


Alot is either broken or has a temp band-aid holding it together. Texas has and even worse habit, than the federal govt, of putting band aids on things, instead of looking for a more permanent solution.

I will still have to disagree. We are not without problems, but most things are not broke.....

Im not saying things are more broken than other states. Texas isnt. Most states are far worse. Maybe I shouldnt use broken, maybe I should use, things arent as good as they should be, or could be. Or maybe flawed.

I can agree with that