Testing nvidia cheat claims

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: Blastman
Look at the ??jaggies?? on the horizontal window boarders on the first row just above the plants. The 6xAA of the 9800 does a much better job and smoothes them out completely.

Yeah I see it clearly now, I must be going blind in my old age!

 

[oldfart]

Yeah, the ATi 6X AA looks better than nV 8X AA.

What's up with the FPS in those shots? 9800 is tripple the 5900 with 90 Vs 30.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

i can take steroids, so who cares how i'm getting faster right?

Yes... exactly. If the game is faster, who cares how they did it?

well you might care when your penis starts srinking and you develop breasts.

I hope you weren't actually serious about that comment... because steroids increase the level of testosterone... which is why women body builders who take steroids start to look and sound more like men.

 

[BoomAM]

Is it just me or do the textures in the screen shots look slightly more grainy on the 5900?

 

[Blastman]

Since when is optimizing hardware for a game considered cheating? Who cares HOW they get a game to run faster on their hardware as long as it runs faster.

I wasn?t trying to suggest that optimizing for a game is cheating, but looking back at my post it wasn?t worded that great, so it looks like that may have been hinted at.

Let me rephrase that.

If Nvidia optimizes their drivers for Quake, UT, DOOM and you play those games, then that?s great for you, you will see the optimized performance. Optimizations can be good marketing for either ATI or Nvidia. I was just thinking about the cards performance in other games. Hardware sites strive to give a reasonable overall assessment of the performance of a graphics card when they do reviews so they might need top take these optimizations into consideration. I?m suggesting the Hardware sites may have to do a better job in their testing if they want to maintain credibility. Particularly now that this cheating issue has brought these issues to the forefront.

The scope of testing on most hardware sites is pretty narrow, they all use pretty well the same 5 ? 6 games generally that come with some scripted demo that makes it easy for them to test. We had Nvidia fans declaring the 5900U was a faster ?overall? card than the 9800 after the reviews - not that the 5900U was faster in only those games reviewed. If Hardware sites are using only Nvidia ? ?optimized? ? games to establish the overall performance of a graphics card, it inflates that cards performance when compared to the hundreds of other games out there. Maybe the 9800 is faster overall, but it didn?t show because of the narrow scope of testing. Good marketing for Nvidia, bad testing on the Hardware sites part.

It going to be interesting to see how the next hardware site graphic card reviews are received. Unless they change something drastic a lot of skepticism could set in.