Testing my patience ... stupid computer locks up during games

zeppelin

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OK.
My computer:
E4300 (w/ Zalman heatsink + fan)
ECS P4M800Pro
1GB PQI DDR 400
X800XT AIW (w/ Zalman heatsink + fan)
PSU: Thermaltake 420W PurePower
WinXP Pro (w/ SP2)
All other drivers are up to date.
Software is at a minimum (I do a dual boot, one for games, one for everything else)

also at my disposal: 1GB Kingston Value DDR 400 RAM, 1GB Kingston Value DDR2, Ultra X 400 W PSU, Intel D865GLC matx mobo (w/ 3.2 GHz Processor)

Basically my computer runs fine except when I play hl2 or CS:S. It crashes within 30 seconds of action wtih a white noisy screen. I can still hear sound, but the video is frozen. The OS is still intact, because I can hit f10 to exit the game, even though I cant see a thing. Then, I can hit the power button and the computer shuts down.

I have ATItools installed, but no overclocking whatsoever. CPU and GPU temperatures are within operating ranges (GPU < 50C according to ATItool log).
When I throw in my Ultra X PSU, I can play for about 10 minutes before it crashes with the same screen.

So, I am coming to my wits end with this.

The more I think about it, the more I´m inclined to think its´a PSU issue. But I dont want to shell out $80-$100 for a quality PSU (looking at a Corsair 520W) if it´s not gonna fix the problem.

The other possibility is the video card. I´ve had it for about 2 years and, to say the least, I´ve abused it over the years ... overclocking it so that at load it was at 90-95C. But now, i just want it working in games at default speeds. Replacing the video card is costlier. Its an AGP board and it´s hard to find a good deal on a quality AGP card that would be an improvement to the x800xt and be able to run future games. Maybe throw down for a x1600?

I´m pretty sure it´s a hardware issue, because the computer runs fine under everything else. The game starts up and I can play (for a short amount of time).

My old setup (intel mobo, 3.2GHz processor, x800xt, thermaltake PSU, PQI RAM), I was able to run CSS and hl2 for about 10 minutes before the same crash.

Any help would be appreciated? Thanks, in advance.
 

LittleNemoNES

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seems like your PSU or Video card... Try to isolate the problem if you can by borrowing a friends' PSU or Vid card.
 

SickBeast

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It doesn't make sense that it's the PSU.

You could have a defective card. The artifacts that you're mentionning are in line with memory that is running too hot. Try underclocking the memory and see what happens.

What are your case temps like?

Just FYI, I run the same videocard as you (more or less) on a 350w PSU and it's fine. My CPU is slower and single core, but really that shouldn't make much difference.
 

zeppelin

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Right now, I'm running it outside my case. So, case temp is negligible.

I will try to underclock the video memory. It's got heatsinks on it ... so I expect the same results.

The card was fine in its first year or two of service. In the last year, its been shoddy. Don't know if it's the card or PSU or something else. Is the video card all or nothing? From a hardware point of view ... if it can boot, get past POST and load windows, should it be able to run games?

will report back after tinkering some more.

Originally posted by: SickBeast
It doesn't make sense that it's the PSU.

You could have a defective card. The artifacts that you're mentionning are in line with memory that is running too hot. Try underclocking the memory and see what happens.

What are your case temps like?

Just FYI, I run the same videocard as you (more or less) on a 350w PSU and it's fine. My CPU is slower and single core, but really that shouldn't make much difference.

 

SickBeast

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Videocards aren't usually "all or nothing".

You will see artifacts before they fail.

The "snow" is usually memory related whereas geometry errors are usually core related.

Did you put the heatsinks on the memory yourself? If you did, I suggest you remove them and see what happens.
 

zeppelin

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Update:

Finally found a setting that doesn´t crash the video card.
Had to underclock both the card memory and GPU to 400Mhz (default is 500MHz on each), which severly hampers performance. But hey! I can play games without crashing now.

It should still be under warranty, so maybe I´ll look into getting an RMA.

Thanks for the help.