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Test Drove IS300 5-Speed & G35 Sport Today

Let me start by saying that I AM SO FREAKING STUPID!!! I tried to post several messages to AT from a friend's house today and last night. When I kept on receiving the "you are forbidden from posting/editing messages in these forums," I thought I had been banned. Come to find out, my friend uses AOL, and I had forgotten that you cannot post from AOL! Duh!

Anyway, both my friend and I are in the market for a compact sports sedan of the likes of the Lexus IS300 and the Infiniti G35. Since he was down in Atlanta for the weekend (he's an investment banker in NYC), we decided to spend the morning testing some cars. We drove the IS300 first. He drove an automatic version, I drove the 5-speed. After visiting Lexus, we drove an Infiniti G35 automatic with sport package. We both came away with similar thoughts:

The interior of both cars leaves a lot to be desired compared to the BMW 3-series/Audi A4 (too much silver-colored plastic).
The fuel economy on the G35 is worse than the IS300, and both cars are far worse than the 3-series (20mpg vs. 25mpg average).
The exterior styling of both cars is pretty good with the G35 being the better of the two (especially with the sport package).
The G35 certainly has the better acceleration, creeping to 2500rpm then launching all the way to 6500 (When pushed, it redlines every time.).
Both engines have a loud exhaust note after 4500rpm or so with the IS300 having the sweeter, higher-pitched note.
The G35 effortlessly reaches and maintains 90mph on the interstate. It comes up quick, so you have to be careful.
The IS300 accelerates slower in comparison, but with the 5-speed, acceleration can be controlled better so as not to constantly redline it.
The IS300 has much more interior road noise at highway speeds, mostly resulting from the 17" tires. Wind noise was also high.
The G35 is a better car for long-distance travel with a much softer suspension. Ride and handling are similar to the 3-series, but still not as refined.
The IS300 has much tighter steering and handling making it more fun on the curves but harsher at speed.
The front seats on both cars are quite comfortable with the IS300 being slightly more so. The G35 has much more rear-seat room and comfort.
The sound systems on both cars are decent with the G35 having better bass response with its Bose sub, but it sounded tinny. I preferred the IS300's system.
The G35 has more goodies: one-touch operation on all windows, dual zone climate control, pockets for a cell phone, credit cards, etc.
The G35 has very sensitive, touchy breaks.
The IS300 comes with limited slip differential as a $300 option.

After it was all said and done, I have to still give my nod to the IS300. Its handling is tight, closer to that of my Miata. The IS300 also runs a few grand less than the G35 when both are similarly equipped. There is also the question of reliability, and I still trust that of Toyota over Nissan. BMW still produces the "Ultimate Driving Machine" without a doubt, but the G35 comes close in some ways, falls short in others. Neither offer the ultra-tight handling of the IS300, something which I prefer at this stage in my life. I am still going to wait to test the G35 6-speed before making a final decision, but right now it's all Lexus.
 
But, I think you forgot the "WOW!" factor 🙂 Me a a couple to friends definitly agree that the G35 is more eye catching than the IS300. I would like to have a G35 based on it's uniqness 🙂
 
Originally posted by: rbloedow
But, I think you forgot the "WOW!" factor 🙂 Me a a couple to friends definitly agree that the G35 is more eye catching than the IS300. I would like to have a G35 based on it's uniqness 🙂

Give it a few years. It might be as unique as a Civic.
 
HAHA you drive a girly car (miata)!

😉😛 jk I shouldn't talk I drive a Jetta (at least it's an old Jetta though... it's an '87)

Ollie
 
Originally posted by: rbloedow
But, I think you forgot the "WOW!" factor 🙂 Me a a couple to friends definitly agree that the G35 is more eye catching than the IS300. I would like to have a G35 based on it's uniqness 🙂

I see like 3-5 of these a day now... getting pretty popular in SoCal... 😉
 
i can't take the rear end of the g35 though. just awful IMHO. rest of car looks tight

is300 is fast, nice ride

but i completely agree, BOTH cars lack the interior fit and finish of an audi or bimmer, which is enough to keep me away 😛
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: rbloedow
But, I think you forgot the "WOW!" factor 🙂 Me a a couple to friends definitly agree that the G35 is more eye catching than the IS300. I would like to have a G35 based on it's uniqness 🙂

Give it a few years. It might be as unique as a Civic.

....and as inexpensive as one heh😀
 
Here's another thought: heck with them all!

I need to go over to Europe and find a 1996/97/98 BMW M3 sedan with a 280hp I6 with a 6-speed. I'd then mod it with a supercharger, roll cage, Brembo breaks, improved front and rear roll stabilizers, and maybe even a new sound system. That would crush everything!
 
Dude...does Atlanta lack an Audi dealership??? Why not throw the A4 into the mix...its actually a bargain compared to the 3-series (don't know how the pricing is vs. Lexus/Infiniti.)
 
Originally posted by: uncJIGGA
Dude...does Atlanta lack an Audi dealership??? Why not throw the A4 into the mix...its actually a bargain compared to the 3-series (don't know how the pricing is vs. Lexus/Infiniti.)

I'm not looking for FWD nor Quattro.
 
Originally posted by: sohcrates
i can't take the rear end of the g35 though. just awful IMHO. rest of car looks tight

is300 is fast, nice ride

but i completely agree, BOTH cars lack the interior fit and finish of an audi or bimmer, which is enough to keep me away 😛


wow exact oppposite. i saw the rear end first and wondered what kewl car was that🙂
 
Don't forget the G35 is considerably bigger inside. Also, the G35 will be a "new model" longer. I think the replacement for the IS300 is coming out 2005 🙂
 
Aegean blue Acura TL-S black interior, navigation, bodykit. faster, and a couple grand less. more roomy as well, and its reliable. looks better than the IS as well, and more performance.
 
Originally posted by: Dhruv
Aegean blue Acura TL-S black interior, navigation, bodykit. faster, and a couple grand less. more roomy as well, and its reliable. looks better than the IS as well, and more performance.

Body kits = SUCK! 😀

FWD + Automatic does NOT equal performance IMHO. For a TRUE sports sedan, look no further than RWD and at least a 5-speed manual. Also, the TL looks no better than the souped up Accord sedan that it is😉
 
Originally posted by: Dhruv
Aegean blue Acura TL-S black interior, navigation, bodykit. faster, and a couple grand less. more roomy as well, and its reliable. looks better than the IS as well, and more performance.

More performance? The TL-S is definitely quicker to accelerate than an IS300, but it is still FWD, and will not provide nearly the same satisfaction during any kind of challenging driving.
 
Originally posted by: Dhruv
Aegean blue Acura TL-S black interior, navigation, bodykit. faster, and a couple grand less. more roomy as well, and its reliable. looks better than the IS as well, and more performance.

For the last time, FWD is not in the equation!
 
Originally posted by: Dhruv
Aegean blue Acura TL-S black interior, navigation, bodykit. faster, and a couple grand less. more roomy as well, and its reliable. looks better than the IS as well, and more performance.

drive like a boat too. (thats an accord problem and it looks like they haven't fixed it on the new one)
 
I am not sure if this is what you are into, but there will be so much aftermarket for the 350zs and G35's, it wont even be funny. In case anybody hasnt told you, or you havent figuared it out yet, the 350z is going to be the next 'Supra'.

In terms of handling, I dont think you shuold be buying sports cars with handling in mind. Buy the g35, get sport struts, strut tie bars, some stiffer springs, urethane bushings, and be all set.

I havent driven a 350z yet, but the IS300 I drove felt shoddy and reminded me of the latest gen of the corrolas.


Is there a reason you arent looking at a TL-Type S with a 6 speed? Its not as fast as the g35, and doesnt look as good, but in terms of interior refinement, a lot of peopl like it...

edit: Ahh, no FWD, well good choice 🙂

in that case, get a g35, everybody and their spoiled wife is driving an IS300 these days
 
The IS300 is not an extremely popular car in Atlanta. I'm already starting to see more G35s. In terms of aftermarket add-ons, the market is certainly there for the IS300. Remember, its inline-6 is the same as the one the Supra used. I wouldn't consider making such mods until the warranty expires anyway.

Like I said, I haven't made a final decision. I still want to test the 6-speed G35. Who knows, I may try to stick it out until 2005 to see the new IS300. Toyota/Lexus is not a company to stay behind for long, and I have the feeling they will strike back with something really good.
 
Just wanted to add that what they say about the breaks on the G35 is true. The breaks are very touchy. A slight, abrupt push of the break pedal causes the car to lurch. It takes a little while to get use to.
 
How much does a G35/IS300 cost in the States anyway?

And the reason the G35 doesn't have a BMW/Audi interior is cause its freaking $10kCDN cheaper that's why!
 
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
How much does a G35/IS300 cost in the States anyway?

And the reason the G35 doesn't have a BMW/Audi interior is cause its freaking $10kCDN cheaper that's why!

The IS300 costs around $33K and the G35 around $35K when similarly equipped. That is a good $7K or so cheaper than a 330i.

Another plus for the IS300: Limited Slip Differential!

 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
How much does a G35/IS300 cost in the States anyway?

And the reason the G35 doesn't have a BMW/Audi interior is cause its freaking $10kCDN cheaper that's why!

The IS300 costs around $33K and the G35 around $35K when similarly equipped. That is a good $7K or so cheaper than a 330i.

Another plus for the IS300: Limited Slip Differential!


That's around $12k CDN (the difference I mean) and the 330i has so many options that are standard on the G35/IS300 as well.
 
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