Tesla

[Maverick2002]

http://www.teslamotors.com ... been drooling over the roadster for a long time. it's kind of influencing my new car buying decision (get something I can let go of easily in less than 5 years)

if I had $100k and were convinced that someone could service it if something went wrong, I'd be all over that badboy ... 13,000rpm redline, 3.9 0-60, 250mi+ range on a $5 overnight charge

 

[JulesMaximus]

Why don't you just buy the gasoline powered version?

Text

It gets 29mpg and costs half as much.

BTW-If you drove the gas powered version 10,000 miles a year you'd spend $1552/year on gasoline. $5/day equals $1825/year in electricity (although, I doubt it would cost this much...just basing this on the OP's math). Still, $50,000 buys a lot of gasoline.

 

[Kadarin]

I know someone who has one, but I have not had a chance yet to talk with him about it.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why don't you just buy the gasoline powered version?

Text

It gets 29mpg and costs half as much.

BTW-If you drove the gas powered version 10,000 miles a year you'd spend $1552/year on gasoline. $5/day equals $1825/year in electricity (although, I doubt it would cost this much...just basing this on the OP's math). Still, $50,000 buys a lot of gasoline.

Exactly. I think the Tesla is a complete joke. It's utterly retarded. Why they build an economical technology into a platform that people generally don't have any worries with gas mileage about is beyond me, kind of like the Audi (?) hybrid supercar. Great. I just spent a hundred or two hundred K but damn look my mileage per gallon is higher.

 

[Sukhoi]

They're actually working on setting up a new factory somewhere in north San Jose too...who the heck is buying these?

 

[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why don't you just buy the gasoline powered version?

Text

It gets 29mpg and costs half as much.

BTW-If you drove the gas powered version 10,000 miles a year you'd spend $1552/year on gasoline. $5/day equals $1825/year in electricity (although, I doubt it would cost this much...just basing this on the OP's math). Still, $50,000 buys a lot of gasoline.

Exactly. I think the Tesla is a complete joke. It's utterly retarded. Why they build an economical technology into a platform that people generally don't have any worries with gas mileage about is beyond me, kind of like the Audi (?) hybrid supercar. Great. I just spent a hundred or two hundred K but damn look my mileage per gallon is higher.

I think the 0-60 times for the Tesla were pretty dramatic, something like 3.9 IICR. Other than that it's more a novelty IMO..

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why don't you just buy the gasoline powered version?

Text

It gets 29mpg and costs half as much.

BTW-If you drove the gas powered version 10,000 miles a year you'd spend $1552/year on gasoline. $5/day equals $1825/year in electricity (although, I doubt it would cost this much...just basing this on the OP's math). Still, $50,000 buys a lot of gasoline.

Exactly. I think the Tesla is a complete joke. It's utterly retarded. Why they build an economical technology into a platform that people generally don't have any worries with gas mileage about is beyond me, kind of like the Audi (?) hybrid supercar. Great. I just spent a hundred or two hundred K but damn look my mileage per gallon is higher.

I think the 0-60 times for the Tesla were pretty dramatic, something like 3.9 IICR. Other than that it's more a novelty IMO..

or you can get a Z06 for something like $65k that does 0-60 in 3.5 and pocket $30k in cash.

plenty of more compelling, non-electric vehicles, than the tesla IMO.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why don't you just buy the gasoline powered version?

Text

It gets 29mpg and costs half as much.

BTW-If you drove the gas powered version 10,000 miles a year you'd spend $1552/year on gasoline. $5/day equals $1825/year in electricity (although, I doubt it would cost this much...just basing this on the OP's math). Still, $50,000 buys a lot of gasoline.

Exactly. I think the Tesla is a complete joke. It's utterly retarded. Why they build an economical technology into a platform that people generally don't have any worries with gas mileage about is beyond me, kind of like the Audi (?) hybrid supercar. Great. I just spent a hundred or two hundred K but damn look my mileage per gallon is higher.

I think the 0-60 times for the Tesla were pretty dramatic, something like 3.9 IICR. Other than that it's more a novelty IMO..

or you can get a Z06 for something like $65k that does 0-60 in 3.5 and pocket $30k in cash.

plenty of more compelling, non-electric vehicles, than the tesla IMO.

Sorry, but I would MUCH rather have the Tesla. I could be a Civic and throw lots of money at it and come out with a faster car, so what? The fun part of this car is that it's completely electric, which you couldn't get out of a Corvette without throwing even more money at.

The interest in it is because it is electric and it's fairly long range. A Prius is $25k and goes 10 miles on batteries alone.

And this is regardless of enviromental impact. It's new technology and should be embraced. Something has to change, ICEs just aren't going to cut it forever.

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why don't you just buy the gasoline powered version?

Text

It gets 29mpg and costs half as much.

BTW-If you drove the gas powered version 10,000 miles a year you'd spend $1552/year on gasoline. $5/day equals $1825/year in electricity (although, I doubt it would cost this much...just basing this on the OP's math). Still, $50,000 buys a lot of gasoline.

Exactly. I think the Tesla is a complete joke. It's utterly retarded. Why they build an economical technology into a platform that people generally don't have any worries with gas mileage about is beyond me, kind of like the Audi (?) hybrid supercar. Great. I just spent a hundred or two hundred K but damn look my mileage per gallon is higher.

I think the 0-60 times for the Tesla were pretty dramatic, something like 3.9 IICR. Other than that it's more a novelty IMO..

or you can get a Z06 for something like $65k that does 0-60 in 3.5 and pocket $30k in cash.

plenty of more compelling, non-electric vehicles, than the tesla IMO.

Sorry, but I would MUCH rather have the Tesla. I could be a Civic and throw lots of money at it and come out with a faster car, so what? The fun part of this car is that it's completely electric, which you couldn't get out of a Corvette without throwing even more money at.

The interest in it is because it is electric and it's fairly long range. A Prius is $25k and goes 10 miles on batteries alone.

And this is regardless of enviromental impact. It's new technology and should be embraced. Something has to change, ICEs just aren't going to cut it forever.

I know, some people don't take it for what it is.

 

[Bignate603]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why don't you just buy the gasoline powered version?

Text

It gets 29mpg and costs half as much.

BTW-If you drove the gas powered version 10,000 miles a year you'd spend $1552/year on gasoline. $5/day equals $1825/year in electricity (although, I doubt it would cost this much...just basing this on the OP's math). Still, $50,000 buys a lot of gasoline.

Exactly. I think the Tesla is a complete joke. It's utterly retarded. Why they build an economical technology into a platform that people generally don't have any worries with gas mileage about is beyond me, kind of like the Audi (?) hybrid supercar. Great. I just spent a hundred or two hundred K but damn look my mileage per gallon is higher.

It's a publicity thing and something to make a quick buck. The company wants to get into consumer level cars but needed something that got a huge amount of press and could command a high price to fund their development. People won't pay an extra $40k on a family vehicle but the sports car market is much more willing to pay that. Sports cars are 100% about wants, not needs, so the price can be higher without as much justification.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why don't you just buy the gasoline powered version?

Text

It gets 29mpg and costs half as much.

BTW-If you drove the gas powered version 10,000 miles a year you'd spend $1552/year on gasoline. $5/day equals $1825/year in electricity (although, I doubt it would cost this much...just basing this on the OP's math). Still, $50,000 buys a lot of gasoline.

He said 250 miles on a $5 charge, not $5 for a day's commuting

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why don't you just buy the gasoline powered version?

Text

It gets 29mpg and costs half as much.

BTW-If you drove the gas powered version 10,000 miles a year you'd spend $1552/year on gasoline. $5/day equals $1825/year in electricity (although, I doubt it would cost this much...just basing this on the OP's math). Still, $50,000 buys a lot of gasoline.

Exactly. I think the Tesla is a complete joke. It's utterly retarded. Why they build an economical technology into a platform that people generally don't have any worries with gas mileage about is beyond me, kind of like the Audi (?) hybrid supercar. Great. I just spent a hundred or two hundred K but damn look my mileage per gallon is higher.

I think the 0-60 times for the Tesla were pretty dramatic, something like 3.9 IICR. Other than that it's more a novelty IMO..

or you can get a Z06 for something like $65k that does 0-60 in 3.5 and pocket $30k in cash.

plenty of more compelling, non-electric vehicles, than the tesla IMO.

Sorry, but I would MUCH rather have the Tesla. I could be a Civic and throw lots of money at it and come out with a faster car, so what? The fun part of this car is that it's completely electric, which you couldn't get out of a Corvette without throwing even more money at.

The interest in it is because it is electric and it's fairly long range. A Prius is $25k and goes 10 miles on batteries alone.

And this is regardless of enviromental impact. It's new technology and should be embraced. Something has to change, ICEs just aren't going to cut it forever.

I totally agree. I would rather have Tesla establish its roots as an electric car company and perfect the technology before building cheaper cars.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why don't you just buy the gasoline powered version?

Text

It gets 29mpg and costs half as much.

BTW-If you drove the gas powered version 10,000 miles a year you'd spend $1552/year on gasoline. $5/day equals $1825/year in electricity (although, I doubt it would cost this much...just basing this on the OP's math). Still, $50,000 buys a lot of gasoline.

He said 250 miles on a $5 charge, not $5 for a day's commuting

Thank you for that insightful post Captain Obvious. :roll: I said I doubt it would cost that much and that I was just basing it on the OP's math. Do you not read well?

 

[Maverick2002]

in terms of gas prices, tesla would be at least 10x cheaper than any car even remotely as fast

fenix - how the hell do you figure a z06 can hit 60 in 3.5????

 

[heymrdj]

Originally posted by: Maverick2002
in terms of gas prices, tesla would be at least 10x cheaper than any car even remotely as fast

fenix - how the hell do you figure a z06 can hit 60 in 3.5????

Vetteweb.com

In the car's 3,162-pound (1,437 kg) package, the LS7 engine helpsdeliver 0-60 mph performance of 3.7 seconds in first gear, quarter-miletimes of 11.7 seconds at 125 mph and a top speed of 198 mph (as recordedon Germany's Autobahn) - the Z06 also circuited Germany's famedNuerburgring racetrack in a time of 7:43.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: Maverick2002
http://www.teslamotors.com ... been drooling over the roadster for a long time. it's kind of influencing my new car buying decision (get something I can let go of easily in less than 5 years)

if I had $100k and were convinced that someone could service it if something went wrong, I'd be all over that badboy ... 13,000rpm redline, 3.9 0-60, 250mi+ range on a $5 overnight charge

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[Kabob]

Originally posted by: heymrdj

Originally posted by: Maverick2002
in terms of gas prices, tesla would be at least 10x cheaper than any car even remotely as fast

fenix - how the hell do you figure a z06 can hit 60 in 3.5????

Vetteweb.com

In the car's 3,162-pound (1,437 kg) package, the LS7 engine helpsdeliver 0-60 mph performance of 3.7 seconds in first gear, quarter-miletimes of 11.7 seconds at 125 mph and a top speed of 198 mph (as recordedon Germany's Autobahn) - the Z06 also circuited Germany's famedNuerburgring racetrack in a time of 7:43.

C&D got the Z06 to 60 in 3.6, and Jan Magnussen, a factory Corvette driver got the Z06 around the Nurburgring in 7:42.99

 

[heymrdj]

My main response is that I will never ever buy an electric car of my own free will even if I had 10 million dollars to spend on it until they can go 1,000 miles per day while only taking stops that need a few minutes (IE equivalent to gassing up the truck). This is what I can do with my Expedition, I expect the same of any replacement car. I'm not driving 250 miles to wait 8 hours on a recharge.

Oh and a 2,000lb hauling capacity and 5,000 lb towing capacity is good too.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: heymrdj
My main response is that I will never ever buy an electric car of my own free will even if I had 10 million dollars to spend on it until they can go 1,000 miles per day while only taking stops that need a few minutes (IE equivalent to gassing up the truck). This is what I can do with my Expedition, I expect the same of any replacement car. I'm not driving 250 miles to wait 8 hours on a recharge.

Oh and a 2,000lb hauling capacity and 5,000 lb towing capacity is good too.

Uhh... most people (99%) don't need a car that can drive 1,000 miles per day, haul 2,000 lbs and tow 5,000.

I doubt you need that either and, if you really do, then this car isn't aimed at you because it's a.... wait for it... SPORTS CAR.

 

[heymrdj]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: heymrdj
My main response is that I will never ever buy an electric car of my own free will even if I had 10 million dollars to spend on it until they can go 1,000 miles per day while only taking stops that need a few minutes (IE equivalent to gassing up the truck). This is what I can do with my Expedition, I expect the same of any replacement car. I'm not driving 250 miles to wait 8 hours on a recharge.

Oh and a 2,000lb hauling capacity and 5,000 lb towing capacity is good too.

Uhh... most people (99%) don't need a car that can drive 1,000 miles per day, haul 2,000 lbs and tow 5,000.

I doubt you need that either and, if you really do, then this car isn't aimed at you because it's a.... wait for it... SPORTS CAR.

It's more like 60% of people need a car that can go 1,000 miles a day 10% of the time. Of course in your all knowing wisdom thinking that something that has to plug in every day to keep running is actually freedom, I can see how you'd think that 99% of people don't need it. But surprisingly, even if you think Bush has destroyed our economy and that the American dream is all bum impossible, people still do take something called a....wait for it.... VACATION. :shocked:

 

[jtvang125]

If I won the lotto I'd definitely pick one up just for fun. Flooring that thing and hearing the electric engine spool up with the sound of a jet engine would be more than worth it.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: heymrdj

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: heymrdj
My main response is that I will never ever buy an electric car of my own free will even if I had 10 million dollars to spend on it until they can go 1,000 miles per day while only taking stops that need a few minutes (IE equivalent to gassing up the truck). This is what I can do with my Expedition, I expect the same of any replacement car. I'm not driving 250 miles to wait 8 hours on a recharge.

Oh and a 2,000lb hauling capacity and 5,000 lb towing capacity is good too.

Uhh... most people (99%) don't need a car that can drive 1,000 miles per day, haul 2,000 lbs and tow 5,000.

I doubt you need that either and, if you really do, then this car isn't aimed at you because it's a.... wait for it... SPORTS CAR.

It's more like 60% of people need a car that can go 1,000 miles a day 10% of the time. Of course in your all knowing wisdom thinking that something that has to plug in every day to keep running is actually freedom, I can see how you'd think that 99% of people don't need it. But surprisingly, even if you think Bush has destroyed our economy and that the American dream is all bum impossible, people still do take something called a....wait for it.... VACATION. :shocked:

60% of people need a car that go 1,000 miles in a day? How many people take vacations over 1,000 miles away and drive all 1,000 miles in a single day? That's 14 straight hours of driving @ 70 mph. Shit, when I was in college I drove that much only a handful of times and I didn't do it in a sports car.

You seem to not understand that this car is basically a Lotus Elise. It's not a mini van, it's not an SUV, it's a sports car. I don't know if you've ever been in one (an Elise), but the thing is tiny. It's not a car you take on vacations. It's the car you pull out of your driveway to go to the beach, to cruise around town, and to go on a little joy ride, not the car you pile your family into and drive across the country.

I'll still contend that the vast majority of America can easily survive on a car that can go ~250 miles / day on a single charge. True, you can't take it on a long vacation, but that's a once-a-year occurrence for most families. The vast, vast majority of miles driven by people are in their city, within less than fifty miles of their home.

The short-term answer will be cars like the Volt, the Prius, and whatever Honda's offering is called. The longer-term could likely be supercap cars, which would deliver a few hundred miles of all-electric range and a short (5 - 10 min) recharge time.