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Tesla model S pics

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That center console looks cool but it would be a pita to actually use. You would have to look at it to change anything since you can't just feel for a button.
 
Originally posted by: Scouzer
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: MBrown
Unless this can be fully charged in under 10 minutes, give me a fuel efficient gasoline version or a diesel version. It sure looks good though.

Edit: The more I think about it I don't drive more than 200miles a day so its not that bad.
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You could just plug it in when you aren't using it...

Why is everyone so impatient nowadays??
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Uh, what about road trips? That's the real problem. I drive 200 miles one way once a week, an 8 hour charge is not going to work if it has 175 miles of range.
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So, either keep a minivan around or rent?
 
I'd have to use the panel a few times during the day -- the glare is probably horrible. Hope you can see the display in direct sunlight.
 
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: fleabag
She has become so delusional, that she thinks it's "free" to drive these things around because it *only* costs a few cents a mile in electricity but she manages to forget a lot of important factors.
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I agree with the notes you posted because so many people don't consider just where their electricity is coming from. The real break won't come until we have effective, efficient, reliable mass transit and restructured land use patterns which reduce the amount of required travel.
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Fixed for you.

I'm not here to shit on the Tesla; indeed I like the look and functionality of it and the performance sounds great, even if it is expensive.

No matter how eco-friendly the source for producing the electricity though, it would be too much of a burden on the system for everyone to be driving an electric vehicle as much as they currently drive their gas-powered vehicle.

We need to make mass transit a much higher priority to make more efficient use of our energy, and then have electric vehicles as a secondary option, for when transit doesn't meet a person's needs for a particular trip.

In short, we need a major paradigm shift.
 
We need to make mass transit a much higher priority to make more efficient use of our energy
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Not tenable. I will never do mass transit unless it's literally all there is to do or it costs me the equivalent of $15 per gallon of gas (honestly). The country is too spread out for it anyway.

US needs a bigger energy infrastructure including grid upgrades and more nuke plants or hyroelectric or whatever. As energy demands continue to grow and then we have more and more electric cars the grid will be even more fragile than it is.

Hydrogen gets around the grid problem but it still requires more power production and it's a pipe dream anyway, there won't be anymeaningful number of hydrogen cars on the road most likely for decades.
 
Originally posted by: Gillbot
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
How does the odometer/tach work?
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Basically the same as the odo/tach works on todays cars. For the odo: a trigger sensor on the output shaft of the transmission usually to pulses per revolution. It then calculates the mileage based off of the ratio of the tire size and gearing.

It likely reads the tach directly from the electric motor just like a tach would be read from the pulse from one cylinder of a gasoline engine.
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My fault... poorly worded questio - looks like the tac is inside the odometer, rather than being a separate dial.

Dash

I guess there are two needles, we just can't see them. I just think that would confuse some idiots...

Maybe the dash is customisable? (you could choose what info it shows you? change the regen to a tacho?)
 
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: fleabag
She has become so delusional, that she thinks it's "free" to drive these things around because it *only* costs a few cents a mile in electricity but she manages to forget a lot of important factors.
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I agree with the notes you posted because so many people don't consider just where their electricity is coming from. The real break won't come until we have hydrogen fuel cell cars :thumbsup:
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You have rose tinted glasses too, where does the hydrogen come from? Hydrogen isn't an energy source, it is a storage medium like batteries. The energy still needs to come from somewhere...
 
Originally posted by: Scouzer
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: MBrown
Unless this can be fully charged in under 10 minutes, give me a fuel efficient gasoline version or a diesel version. It sure looks good though.

Edit: The more I think about it I don't drive more than 200miles a day so its not that bad.
Click to expand...

You could just plug it in when you aren't using it...

Why is everyone so impatient nowadays??
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Uh, what about road trips? That's the real problem. I drive 200 miles one way once a week, an 8 hour charge is not going to work if it has 175 miles of range.
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There should be a 300 mile battery pack, the problem is - how much more is it going to cost you?

Could you buy it after the car (giving you two packs? but the pack could well be $10k+). The problem is the charger for the model S is built into the car rather than external like the Roadster.

Is the car actually big enough to hold your luggage/passengers for a road trip??

Combining that with a four-bar linkage hatchback rear trunk and flat folding rear seats, the Model S can accommodate a 50-inch television, mountain bike *and* surfboard simultaneously. This packaging efficiency gives the Model S more trunk space than any other sedan on the market and more than most SUVs.
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:Q maybe if you have two people...

For other people doing a less frequent roadtrip -
Tesla said they would rent them...
How much would it cost you to rent it? Enough gas to cover 600 miles doesn't cost much...

How much space does the battery pack take up? Is it really possible for a customer to change the battery in 5 minutes, or is it a 5 minute at the dealers job? (which they will probably charge you for, either directly or included in the price of renting).

Moreover, the floor-mounted battery pack is designed to be changed out in less time than it takes to fill a gas tank, allowing for the possibility of battery-pack swap stations.
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The problem is will there be enough battery swap points for people to actually stop near them? Could they do a battery swap at a price competitive to gas? Or are they going to charge you $100+ for 300 miles?
 
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
That center console looks cool but it would be a pita to actually use. You would have to look at it to change anything since you can't just feel for a button.
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Agreed. You'd have to take your eyes off the road much more often than with a traditional panel.
 
How would a dash/console like that work in states with no cellphone while driving laws? Arguably a full touchscreen dash is much more of a distraction than using a cellphone I would think.... You would have to look down at it for every single thing you do.
 
Originally posted by: Shadow Conception
So all the gauges and buttons and everything... it's all through a touch screen?
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Yup. The roadster has buttons, but the model S is totally touchscreen...

Originally posted by: zoiks
I really like the way the handles come out of the door once you touch them.
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Sounds cool.

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Looks nice. The first I thought when I saw it was maserati.
I like the interior a lot, although I think I would get pissed having to wipe away fingerprint smudges all of the time!
 
Originally posted by: zoiks
Funny that the back trunk is almost like a hatch.
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Yea I think it can hold adults pointing backwards, seating multiple people, like those old wagons from the 80's.

 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: zoiks
Funny that the back trunk is almost like a hatch.
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Yea I think it can hold adults pointing backwards, seating multiple people, like those old wagons from the 80's.
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I think it can hold 2 children pointing backwards...

The Tesla S holds 5 adults + 2 children...

Says so right above 😉
 
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