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Tesla model S pics

FAQ

Range = 237 miles on 79%

Or 300 miles on 100% charge...

Done a fair few miles...

Other info -

* Price starting around $57,400 (probably reduced by EV rebates and credits)
* 60-0 braking in ~135 feet
* 0-60 in less than 6 seconds, 1/4 mile in ~14 seconds
* Top speed ~120 MPH (~130?)
* Redline: ~14K RPMs (~15K?)
* Liquid cooled motor 300kw (402hp)
* 160 mile range base pack (42kWh, 5500 cells)
* 230 mile range upgrade (~60kWh, 7800 cells)
* 300 mile range upgrade (>70kWh, 7800 next generation cells)
* curb weight: ~4000 lbs (listed as 3825 lbs some places)
* length 196", wheelbase 116.5"
* Coefficient of drag: 0.27 (vs 0.35 for the Roadster)
* seats 5 with optional rear facing 3rd row for 2 more small children
* small front trunk and large rear trunk with 60/40 folding rear seats to carry large items

How does the odometer/tach work?
 
I think it looks like a Maserati Quattroporte personally.

It'll be interesting to see if they can really put em out for that price.
 
I agree it looks promising...but at the price point they are shooting for...just seems like they will be unlikely to be able to deliver such a polished car...but kudos to them if they do it.

I'm really interested in the Fisker Karma...seems like a little more practical price point to be able to deliver the goods (although certainly not practical from a purchasing perspective). I'm eager for both of these companies to do really well. I do think this is where the future is going to bring us...I just hope these companies are able to hold on to continue the fresh perspective sometimes lost by current car companies with their ingrained culture.
 
Unless this can be fully charged in under 10 minutes, give me a fuel efficient gasoline version or a diesel version. It sure looks good though.

Edit: The more I think about it I don't drive more than 200miles a day so its not that bad.
 
Originally posted by: MBrown
Unless this can be fully charged in under 10 minutes, give me a fuel efficient gasoline version or a diesel version. It sure looks good though.

Edit: The more I think about it I don't drive more than 200miles a day so its not that bad.
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You could just plug it in when you aren't using it...

Why is everyone so impatient nowadays??
 
that is a sleek lookin ride there. even at 200 mile range id drive it, and really hope the recharge was an hour or less.
 
i'll be surprised ifit's as cheap as they say. still i was wrong to think this would never see the light of day. i'm sad we gotta wait until 2011 for production. If it really has the power, size, and range they are saying, it's going to find buyers. It looks really nice, like a large aston martin.

basically nobody has a 480v outlet and unless gas stations start carrying packs it's still nothing a person could go on a road trip with, but otherwise I'dlike to haveone!

my keyboard is messed
 
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
How does the odometer/tach work?
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Basically the same as the odo/tach works on todays cars. For the odo: a trigger sensor on the output shaft of the transmission usually to pulses per revolution. It then calculates the mileage based off of the ratio of the tire size and gearing.

It likely reads the tach directly from the electric motor just like a tach would be read from the pulse from one cylinder of a gasoline engine.
 
I'd feel better about this car as soon as I install some hydrogen batteries in my basement so I can charge the car under 24 hours.
 
I'm loving the large touch screen for the nav and climate controls. :thumbsup:

Looks like there's a lot of cargo space as well. Incredible.
 
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: MBrown
Unless this can be fully charged in under 10 minutes, give me a fuel efficient gasoline version or a diesel version. It sure looks good though.

Edit: The more I think about it I don't drive more than 200miles a day so its not that bad.
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You could just plug it in when you aren't using it...

Why is everyone so impatient nowadays??
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Uh, what about road trips? That's the real problem. I drive 200 miles one way once a week, an 8 hour charge is not going to work if it has 175 miles of range.
 
Even at 230V 70A, you are talking about a long time to recharge a 70+KWH battery if you want to take a long trip with that extended range model.

All of the charge figures being thrown around are with high current 230V charging stations.

I can't imagine the charge time with a typical household 230V line, let alone a 120V one.

These cars will certainly work for the people who can afford them and whose driving patterns fit.

I just can't imagine the elctrical grid handling a great number of them being plugged in after work around the same time.
 
Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Even at 230V 70A, you are talking about a long time to recharge a 70+KWH battery if you want to take a long trip with that extended range model.

All of the charge figures being thrown around are with high current 230V charging stations.

I can't imagine the charge time with a typical household 230V line, let alone a 120V one.

These cars will certainly work for the people who can afford them and whose driving patterns fit.

I just can't imagine the elctrical grid handling a great number of them being plugged in after work around the same time.
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These cars are a good start but certainly can't be mass produced. My sister has rose colored glasses when looking at the tesla and other electric cars. She has become so delusional, that she thinks it's "free" to drive these things around because it *only* costs a few cents a mile in electricity but she manages to forget a lot of important factors.
1. Batteries don't last forever, they have a limited number of years and limited number of cycles
2. Battery replacement should be factored into the cost per mile but they never do.
3. Batteries will go bad if you live in a hot area and have it parked in the sun.
4. Electricity isn't free and does pollute, and putting solar panels on your house isn't going to be able to charge this car unless you have a HUGE array. (Ours is only 3.5KW)
5. Car is expensive in the first place
6. Using an electric car will allow you to drive more "guilt free", diminishing the "environmental gains" which she fully admitted to.
7. Where the metals the batteries are made from come from.
 
Also, you typically only run the charging circuit at 80% of it's capacity, and a significant portion of the available chrge current does not go to the battery, but to the battery and circuitry cooling system. The cooling system is needed because of the high charge rates. It consumes ~20% of the power when charging at high current rates.

I also read somewhere that Tesla's charging efficiency is not that great.
 
Originally posted by: fleabag
She has become so delusional, that she thinks it's "free" to drive these things around because it *only* costs a few cents a mile in electricity but she manages to forget a lot of important factors.
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I agree with the notes you posted because so many people don't consider just where their electricity is coming from. The real break won't come until we have hydrogen fuel cell cars :thumbsup:
 
Nice, but still too expensive. What Tesla needs is more of an everyman's electric car. This is an important step, but electric cars can't hit mainstream until they creep down to about $20k...
 
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