Tesla Fudging Odometers remotely by as much as 117% to get out of warranty claims.

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Lifer
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That is fantastically sneaky. Up there with VW using the computer tech stuff to change the behaviour of their engines (to reduce emissions at the expense of performance) when they detect a use-pattern that suggests that they are being tested for emissions.

Corporations are near-geniuses when there's something they can fiddle to improve their bottom line and rip someone else off.

And these are the same corporations we trust with developing AI and self-driving cars!
 

nakedfrog

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That is fantastically sneaky. Up there with VW using the computer tech stuff to change the behaviour of their engines (to reduce emissions at the expense of performance) when they detect a use-pattern that suggests that they are being tested for emissions.

Corporations are near-geniuses when there's something they can fiddle to improve their bottom line and rip someone else off.

And these are the same corporations we trust with developing AI and self-driving cars!
I did watch a documentary on that a few years ago, and they were absolutely not the first company to get caught for it. The difference was the way they fucked around about it, and then found out. Here's one example: https://www.epa.gov/enforcement/ford-motor-company-clean-air-act-settlement
 
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trenchfoot

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As evil as Musk is, I don't want him to die at all.

I want him to have a nervous breakdown and end up in a luxury rubber room, having a nervous breakdown in his head every day for many many years to come.

Quote From a Meme: "I never wish for death upon anyone who wrongs me. I wish for them sudden explosive diarrhea while stuck in traffic with frequent sneezes."

The coup de grâce is Musk driving one of his Wankpanzers at the time.
 

manly

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That is fantastically sneaky. Up there with VW using the computer tech stuff to change the behaviour of their engines (to reduce emissions at the expense of performance) when they detect a use-pattern that suggests that they are being tested for emissions.

Corporations are near-geniuses when there's something they can fiddle to improve their bottom line and rip someone else off.

And these are the same corporations we trust with developing AI and self-driving cars!
we trust? 🤣

DieselGate was worse. NOx and tiny particulate pollution are harmful to the respiratory systems of the youngest children, and even cause excess mortality. How much is unprovable, but MIT once did a model. In this context, VAG got off light, even with a hefty financial penalty.


And there's nothing genius about charging society all the externalities from your business because your corporation is too lazy to solve complex problems.
 

cytg111

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Quote From a Meme: "I never wish for death upon anyone who wrongs me. I wish for them sudden explosive diarrhea while stuck in traffic with frequent sneezes."

The coup de grâce is Musk driving one of his Wankpanzers at the time.
Yea, but, the super rich never cleans their own shit... So im with team Koma Ketamine.
 

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Lifer
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we trust? 🤣

DieselGate was worse. NOx and tiny particulate pollution are harmful to the respiratory systems of the youngest children, and even cause excess mortality. How much is unprovable, but MIT once did a model. In this context, VAG got off light, even with a hefty financial penalty.


And there's nothing genius about charging society all the externalities from your business because your corporation is too lazy to solve complex problems.


Well, there's such a thing as an "Evil genius"! Capitalism drives innovation and invention, but the main mechanism involved is ruthless selfishness. And this is why I am not enthusastic about the whole "driverless cars" thing. If it ever works at all (and I suspect it won't) it will no doubt end up making things worse rather than better for most of us. I'd prefer to aim for carless drivers.

What got me about that "dieselgate" affair was that it led to compensation payments - but only to the purchasers and drivers of those cars! Not to the rest of us who had to breath in the crap they pumped out, but to their customers who get boosted performance at the expense of poisoning everyone else.
 

MrSquished

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These accusations sound like classic Elon/Tesla. The guy has zero integrity and literally ripped off his own shareholders by absorbing the fraud of his friend's and family member's Solar City. Literally onstage selling a roof shingle that didn't do anything he claimed! He has hawked and pumped this FSD that is completely not capable of anything he says, and is directly responsible for hundreds of accidents due to his fake FSD, literal deaths and horrific injuries of his customers. We see in everything he does that he is corrupt as fuck, so this shit with the odometers is not only right up his alley, it's literally not that bad compared to all his other evil shit.
 
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SMOGZINN

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And these are the same corporations we trust with developing AI and self-driving cars!
These are the same corporations that do not feel that they need federal regulations as well, and are currently successfully dismantling nearly all oversite on them.
 
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