Tesla Cybertruck

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sdifox

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I like the Touareg video that was recommended. Wheels are wonderul things.

 
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sdifox

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That isn't a jet engine. that is a rocket engine. Do you think a 72 Chevy 3/4 ton had a rated towing capacity of 400,000+ lb?
727 weight from wiki

The aircraft gross weight eventually increased from 169,000 to 209,500 pounds (76,700 to 95,000 kg) for the latest versions.

Looks quite doable for pickups of that time. Rated capacity is for actual driving distances, you can drag more if it is a short distance like that video.


I hope people twitted replies to Phony Stark with the vw and porsche videos lol.
 

Brovane

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727 weight from wiki

The aircraft gross weight eventually increased from 169,000 to 209,500 pounds (76,700 to 95,000 kg) for the latest versions.

Looks quite doable for pickups of that time. Rated capacity is for actual driving distances, you can drag more if it is a short distance like that video.


I hope people twitted replies to Phony Stark with the vw and porsche videos lol.

I thought it was 747? Anybody remember the F150 lightning towing the 1M LB train?
 

Brovane

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doh! it was indeed a 747, mea culpa.

I think the key with those things like the 747 and the train cars is you don't have any tongue weight bearing down on the hitch and they don't have to move very fast.
 

WelshBloke

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I think the key with those things like the 747 and the train cars is you don't have any tongue weight bearing down on the hitch and they don't have to move very fast.
It's a weird thing that doesn't prove a lot about a vehicle. There's plenty of examples of people pulling big old aeroplanes by hand!
 

MrSquished

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It IS scary to be on the road with beta software. But I also don't know if avoiding the technology altogether would raise or lower the overall death rate on the road, and whether that net gain in human lives is worth, statistically-speaking, the short-term risk to get it out on the road & collecting data. Many of the earlier reports I've seen disagree with Tesla's data & say that their numbers are WORSE for safety statistics than a human being behind the wheel.

Either way, the cat is out of the bag by nearly a decade at this point & there's not really anything we can do about it.
Other manufacturers are using various implementations of FSD (and safer ones, imo, such as Ford's BlueCruise, which also have the benefit of radar & LIDAR sensors). There are still things I don't like about it, like how the vehicle would driver right over potholes & deep manhole covers, so the technology definitely has a long way to go.

Overall however, I was VERY impressed with the latest City FSD update. It put my perspective on City self-driving 5 years ahead of what I had previously tested it at. However, I think it still has a LONGway to go. I don't know if I would personally ever trust it to act as a robotic taxi or to take a child alone to school or soccer practice. But again...VERY impressed with my experience in it. The self-driving capabilities in the city & backgrounds was nothing short of amazing!

That is fucking insane to say. The cat is out of the bag so we can't stop it? What a bunch of poppycock bullshit. How has Waymo gotten to level 4 without unleashing beta software on the public, killing and maiming them? The only reason you are giving Tesla a pass for their murders is because it's Tesla and you are a fan of a truck. And Tesla has gotten away with it because of Musk and his snake oil hype salesman tactics. And you are saying oh well, and throw your hands up. You are lacking core basic human empathy, fundamental parts of a soul. It's obscene.
 
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esquared

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So I just saw my first cybertruck IRL an hour ago in traffic. That's even uglier than it is in the pictures.
Ugly AF.
 

Zorba

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The rest certainly has logic to it. Though it seems like most impacts would be on the side of the person hit, then we get into how much a body can fold sideways. I'd bet this has been studied at one time or another, I may have to look for it.
There are a lot of studies on how dangerous these huge flat grills are.
 
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Zorba

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I don't see the Cybertruck as a "practical" truck. It's essentially a 5-seat SUV, just with a battery & a metallic triangle design & a high price tag. A trucklet!

I saw an old Ridgeline the other day & was struck by how similar the design is. From the earlier video in the thread, the lady tried to get her purse out of the bed & couldn't reach over the sides of the Cybertruck & had to pop the bed down & crawl inside to get it. With a regular truck, you get flat sides & a camper shell. With an SUV like a Forester, you can an entire covered trunk, like a built-in camper shell. With the Cybertruck, you get that bread-cupboard roller trunk cover thing that comes down at an angle, so you only get 1/2 the storage compared to a camper or SUV, so you can toss stuff in & cover it, but your space is limited & you have to climb in to get stuff if you can't easily reach it over the sloped sides.

As I've talked to people who have pre-ordered or gotten Cybertrucks, it seems like they fall into one of the following categories:

1. People who want an attention-garnering vehicle, like a Ferrari. The Cybertruck gets more attention right now than supercars do.
2. People who like weird designs (like me!)
3. People who want an electric trucklet (not a "working" truck with an 8-foot bed). This is a fancy family wagon, essentially. 5 seats. Extra storage in the bed. People-hauler.
4. People who want a longer-range electric vehicle with a bed that isn't a Rivian, F-150 Lightning, Silverado EV, or Electric Hummer.
5. People who are Tesla fanboys.
6. People who simply like it because they like it. My buddy who just got his Foundation series has never had a Tesla before; it simply appealed to him & he had the budget for it. It's his family hauler instead of a minivan, as he only needs 5 seats. He's not a Cyber-nut or an Elon fanboy, he just thought it was cool & got one. Fits the kid's soccer stuff in the back. Something different.

I think a lot of the online judgement has to do with outcome use-case scenarios: what's the purchaser's intentions for it? A lot of people seem to get pretty myopic about the design or whether it not it fits some idea of "practicality" in their head & then apply that judgement to other people's purposes for it. At the end of the day, it's just a funky-looking car with a battery instead of a gas engine.
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The early Ridgeline was widely panned too.
 

Zorba

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727 weight from wiki

The aircraft gross weight eventually increased from 169,000 to 209,500 pounds (76,700 to 95,000 kg) for the latest versions.

Looks quite doable for pickups of that time. Rated capacity is for actual driving distances, you can drag more if it is a short distance like that video.


I hope people twitted replies to Phony Stark with the vw and porsche videos lol.
That was a 747-200.
 

Thump553

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So I just saw my first cybertruck IRL an hour ago in traffic. That's even uglier than it is in the pictures.
Ugly AF.
I also saw my first one today, at the local supermarket. For such a new and expensive vehicle it struck me as generally bloated and shabby looking. Even the expensive special wheels look subpar. How can this look so blah and an Airstream trailer look so good?

A high school classmate of mine who decided not to go to college and got a (then new) DeLorean instead. That looked far better about fifty years ago than this does now.

By coincidence the same day I was out walking and a new electric Amazon truck went by. It surprised me because my very small town is at least ten miles from anything.
 
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Zorba

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I also saw my first one today, at the local supermarket. For such a new and expensive vehicle it struck me as generally bloated and shabby looking. Even the expensive special wheels look subpar. How can this look so blah and an Airstream trailer look so good?

A high school classmate of mine who decided not to go to college and got a (then new) DeLorean instead. That looked far better about fifty years ago than this does now.

By coincidence the same day I was out walking and a new electric Amazon truck went by. It surprised me because my very small town is at least ten miles from anything.
Airstreams use Al-clad Aluminum right?
 

lxskllr

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Saw my first today. No real opinion cause it was coming towards me on a windy country road, and I couldn't devote attention to it. I didn't see anything that moved my opinion from 'useless and ugly' though.