Originally posted by: Sultan
You are mistaken. Hinduism as such is not a unified religion. The word Hindu is derived from the Arabic word - Hind, which means beautiful. The Arabs called River Indus as Darya-Hind. The people across the river were collectively termed as Hindus. The beliefs were varied from tribe to tribe.
The religion can be viewed as monotheistic, trinitarion or polytheistic depending upon the Hindu you asked. The Bhagvad Gita itself speaks of multiple Gods and Rakshas/Asurs, etc.
Btw, I do not agree that Hindusim is impossible to understand. That would negate the entire concept of Hinduism being a religion.
Please dont tell me Hindus also believe Mohammad (SA) was an avatar of some God
What you heard was incorrect. Muslims believe Jesus/Isa (AS) is the second most important Prophet after Mohammad (SA). Jews on the other hand, as far as I have learned believe Jesus was the son of Satan. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all Abrahamic faiths. Jesus was sent to "correct" the Jews, while Mohammad (SA) brought the final message for all.
Originally posted by: sxr7171
Originally posted by: Sultan
You are mistaken. Hinduism as such is not a unified religion. The word Hindu is derived from the Arabic word - Hind, which means beautiful. The Arabs called River Indus as Darya-Hind. The people across the river were collectively termed as Hindus. The beliefs were varied from tribe to tribe.
The religion can be viewed as monotheistic, trinitarion or polytheistic depending upon the Hindu you asked. The Bhagvad Gita itself speaks of multiple Gods and Rakshas/Asurs, etc.
Btw, I do not agree that Hindusim is impossible to understand. That would negate the entire concept of Hinduism being a religion.
Please dont tell me Hindus also believe Mohammad (SA) was an avatar of some God
What you heard was incorrect. Muslims believe Jesus/Isa (AS) is the second most important Prophet after Mohammad (SA). Jews on the other hand, as far as I have learned believe Jesus was the son of Satan. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all Abrahamic faiths. Jesus was sent to "correct" the Jews, while Mohammad (SA) brought the final message for all.
I believe you have a few misconceptions. Ultimately Hindusim is a monothestic religion and those Hindus who tell you otherwise have not properly understood it. The three main "Gods" are really just three basic aspects of the same unified God. The problem is that Hinduism does not have a single Holy Book that the supercedes any other. The Bhagvad Gita is the definitive Hindu Holy Book but one of many, it is just the most well known. There are Vedas in four groups that came before. This is what make Hinduism difficult to understand coupled with the fact that greedy Hindus changed the language of Hinduism so that the common man would not understand it properly and always rely on a priest (involving $$$) to perform whatever rites they need to. Remember in Hinduism the main goal is to reach Moksha which is the join the universal God or Universal spirit. There is only one God in Hinduism. Much of the mytholgy in Hinduism is actually just plain fiction designed to relate concepts in an easy to understand way, but unfortunately many people do not see that and find the religion very confusing.
Jews on the other hand do not despise Jesus, they just do not believe that Jesus was not the one the Moses spoke of as the coming of God to earth so they are still waiting for their prophet. They consider Jesus a good person, regardless of what happened around AD31. Some of them, again greedy, to keep power over their people were unhappy that they were losing their ranks to followers of Jesus and they decided to take action, hence the crucifixion. The enlightened Jew would not begrudge Jesus as Jesus was at the least a very good man, just not what they were looking for. Though there is always a little bit of that friction as they think that Christians are stupid and that they ended up following the wrong prophet. However they don't think Jesus was evil or that his followers were. If anything they hope that Christians one day see the error of their choice and pick the "real" prophet when the time comes. Until then they are supposed to peacefully co-exist.
A common theory exists that Islam, Christianty and Judaism the Abrahamic faiths share much with a faith called Zoroastrianism which is said to be the progenitor of Hinduism. Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrian
Also read this on Hinduism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism
There are many parallels between the Abrahamic religions and Hinduism.
Also here it says that Jews just view Jesus as an insignificant figure at worst: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_view_of_Jesus
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: sxr7171
Originally posted by: Sultan
You are mistaken. Hinduism as such is not a unified religion. The word Hindu is derived from the Arabic word - Hind, which means beautiful. The Arabs called River Indus as Darya-Hind. The people across the river were collectively termed as Hindus. The beliefs were varied from tribe to tribe.
The religion can be viewed as monotheistic, trinitarion or polytheistic depending upon the Hindu you asked. The Bhagvad Gita itself speaks of multiple Gods and Rakshas/Asurs, etc.
Btw, I do not agree that Hindusim is impossible to understand. That would negate the entire concept of Hinduism being a religion.
Please dont tell me Hindus also believe Mohammad (SA) was an avatar of some God
What you heard was incorrect. Muslims believe Jesus/Isa (AS) is the second most important Prophet after Mohammad (SA). Jews on the other hand, as far as I have learned believe Jesus was the son of Satan. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all Abrahamic faiths. Jesus was sent to "correct" the Jews, while Mohammad (SA) brought the final message for all.
I believe you have a few misconceptions. Ultimately Hindusim is a monothestic religion and those Hindus who tell you otherwise have not properly understood it. The three main "Gods" are really just three basic aspects of the same unified God. The problem is that Hinduism does not have a single Holy Book that the supercedes any other. The Bhagvad Gita is the definitive Hindu Holy Book but one of many, it is just the most well known. There are Vedas in four groups that came before. This is what make Hinduism difficult to understand coupled with the fact that greedy Hindus changed the language of Hinduism so that the common man would not understand it properly and always rely on a priest (involving $$$) to perform whatever rites they need to. Remember in Hinduism the main goal is to reach Moksha which is the join the universal God or Universal spirit. There is only one God in Hinduism. Much of the mytholgy in Hinduism is actually just plain fiction designed to relate concepts in an easy to understand way, but unfortunately many people do not see that and find the religion very confusing.
Jews on the other hand do not despise Jesus, they just do not believe that Jesus was not the one the Moses spoke of as the coming of God to earth so they are still waiting for their prophet. They consider Jesus a good person, regardless of what happened around AD31. Some of them, again greedy, to keep power over their people were unhappy that they were losing their ranks to followers of Jesus and they decided to take action, hence the crucifixion. The enlightened Jew would not begrudge Jesus as Jesus was at the least a very good man, just not what they were looking for. Though there is always a little bit of that friction as they think that Christians are stupid and that they ended up following the wrong prophet. However they don't think Jesus was evil or that his followers were. If anything they hope that Christians one day see the error of their choice and pick the "real" prophet when the time comes. Until then they are supposed to peacefully co-exist.
A common theory exists that Islam, Christianty and Judaism the Abrahamic faiths share much with a faith called Zoroastrianism which is said to be the progenitor of Hinduism. Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrian
Also read this on Hinduism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism
There are many parallels between the Abrahamic religions and Hinduism.
Also here it says that Jews just view Jesus as an insignificant figure at worst: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_view_of_Jesus
By Indians, probably Hindus? But whatever rocks your boat.
Jewish beliefs of Jesus
Some concepts are shared between Zoroastrianism and the Abrahamic faiths. That is different from saying "share much with a faith". Concept of Heaven, Hell, Satan is existant across all major religions, past and present.
Originally posted by: sxr7171
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: sxr7171
Originally posted by: Sultan
You are mistaken. Hinduism as such is not a unified religion. The word Hindu is derived from the Arabic word - Hind, which means beautiful. The Arabs called River Indus as Darya-Hind. The people across the river were collectively termed as Hindus. The beliefs were varied from tribe to tribe.
The religion can be viewed as monotheistic, trinitarion or polytheistic depending upon the Hindu you asked. The Bhagvad Gita itself speaks of multiple Gods and Rakshas/Asurs, etc.
Btw, I do not agree that Hindusim is impossible to understand. That would negate the entire concept of Hinduism being a religion.
Please dont tell me Hindus also believe Mohammad (SA) was an avatar of some God
What you heard was incorrect. Muslims believe Jesus/Isa (AS) is the second most important Prophet after Mohammad (SA). Jews on the other hand, as far as I have learned believe Jesus was the son of Satan. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all Abrahamic faiths. Jesus was sent to "correct" the Jews, while Mohammad (SA) brought the final message for all.
I believe you have a few misconceptions. Ultimately Hindusim is a monothestic religion and those Hindus who tell you otherwise have not properly understood it. The three main "Gods" are really just three basic aspects of the same unified God. The problem is that Hinduism does not have a single Holy Book that the supercedes any other. The Bhagvad Gita is the definitive Hindu Holy Book but one of many, it is just the most well known. There are Vedas in four groups that came before. This is what make Hinduism difficult to understand coupled with the fact that greedy Hindus changed the language of Hinduism so that the common man would not understand it properly and always rely on a priest (involving $$$) to perform whatever rites they need to. Remember in Hinduism the main goal is to reach Moksha which is the join the universal God or Universal spirit. There is only one God in Hinduism. Much of the mytholgy in Hinduism is actually just plain fiction designed to relate concepts in an easy to understand way, but unfortunately many people do not see that and find the religion very confusing.
Jews on the other hand do not despise Jesus, they just do not believe that Jesus was not the one the Moses spoke of as the coming of God to earth so they are still waiting for their prophet. They consider Jesus a good person, regardless of what happened around AD31. Some of them, again greedy, to keep power over their people were unhappy that they were losing their ranks to followers of Jesus and they decided to take action, hence the crucifixion. The enlightened Jew would not begrudge Jesus as Jesus was at the least a very good man, just not what they were looking for. Though there is always a little bit of that friction as they think that Christians are stupid and that they ended up following the wrong prophet. However they don't think Jesus was evil or that his followers were. If anything they hope that Christians one day see the error of their choice and pick the "real" prophet when the time comes. Until then they are supposed to peacefully co-exist.
A common theory exists that Islam, Christianty and Judaism the Abrahamic faiths share much with a faith called Zoroastrianism which is said to be the progenitor of Hinduism. Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrian
Also read this on Hinduism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism
There are many parallels between the Abrahamic religions and Hinduism.
Also here it says that Jews just view Jesus as an insignificant figure at worst: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_view_of_Jesus
By Indians, probably Hindus? But whatever rocks your boat.
Jewish beliefs of Jesus
Some concepts are shared between Zoroastrianism and the Abrahamic faiths. That is different from saying "share much with a faith". Concept of Heaven, Hell, Satan is existant across all major religions, past and present.
I am Hindu and I can tell you that that site you have quoted does not tell the whole story. The use the term polytheism incorrect as they are probably referring to the multiple "Gods" that are associated with Hinduism but thos "Gods" are really just abstractions of Brahman the single God. Ultimately every time the vedas are quoted the single God is referred to as "Brahman." This term is something I have across many times as a Hindu. Sometimes these articles are written just to remind confused Hindus that there really is one God and not to be taken in so easily by the "multiple Gods" that they are so used to thinking of too literally. If you have actually seen the Vedic quotes you will see this quite clearly. The actual Vedas supercede a random website any day. I am telling you that Hinduism is a monotheistic religion. All those other "Gods" were created in mythology to explain things to people such as the concept of creation, destruction, and sustenance. I am a Hindu, this would be like me explaining Islam to you. You had a misunderstanding and I cleared it up, some Hindus may tell you that there are multiple Gods because they are clueless and have not come across the original Vedic teachings or even the Bhagvad Gita which serves as good summary. They are unable to see beyond the multiple statues and realize that they shouldn't be taking it so literally. This is what happens when the greedy priests choose not to explain anything to anyone so they can keep money for pujas and keep everyone in the dark.
As for the Jewish view of Jesus as a heretic, I knew you were going to bring that up. If you read the link I posted carefully, you will note that Jews don't believe that Jesus himself claimed to be the son of God, but that he was proclaimed so by his followers after he died. So they don't see him as a heretic as they believe that he himself did not make that claim. They were just unhappy at the time that he was taking followers away, now they don't care and see him as insignificant. I will ask a Jewish friend tomorrow. Now I am going to sleep.
I think you are entirely missing the point of discussion. Let me put it in very simple words for you - India's form of government is good - people have a choice. The govt itself might not be good. People have a choice. People change government. Relatively successful Hindu Nationalist Party, BJP - people chose to change. People can even choose the Chinese model if they want - ergo, Communist Party of India forms part of Government. When people don't like, people change that too. People have choice and choice is good. Now, Pakistan - Army General without telling anybody sends military across Line of Control. Army General without Govt. approval starts big fight with neighbour. Prime Minister called by American master to DC and told to withdraw Army. Prime Minister tries to kill Army General. Army General takes over country. People of Pakistan, soundly fvcked up the ass one more time.
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