terrorist meet AC-130 gunship

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Gamingphreek

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Mar 31, 2003
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Yea I don't believe AC-130's have 30mm guns onboard. I believe it is 105mm, 40mm, and 25mm.

What I think was happening is the AC-130 was laser marking the targets for the Apaches to hit.

-Kevin
 

datalink7

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: TallBill
What a high stress decision these guys are making. I'm sure it's "fun" to take bad guys out like this, but a bad decision ends careers.
If you can call that a career.

You can.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
What worries me is that the guy claimed he was "99.9% sure" it was a weapon when it was frackin' hard to tell.

Of course, when the guy pulls out a Kalashnikov later it's pretty obvious...

You're watching compressed FLA version of the video...

yea i don't think the military is using 320x240 video systems for aiming;)
 

RichardE

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Dec 31, 2005
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This video taught that whenever rounds are coming at from no where and they stop...do not..move. That one guy kept running till he was finally shot down, he probably would lived.
 

AndrewR

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: TallBill
What a high stress decision these guys are making. I'm sure it's "fun" to take bad guys out like this, but a bad decision ends careers.
If you can call that a career.

Actually, you can call it one of the most respected careers in the United States. As an institution, the military is the most respected in the US: Gallup poll. As a career, military officers (poll wording, not mine) are rated 4th in the country, behind nurses, grade-school teachers, and druggists/pharmacists and ahead of doctors, clergy, police, and judges: Gallup poll #2.

Where does your career, if you have one, fall on those lists?
 

MrWizzard

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Mar 24, 2002
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
I had the experience of seeing the original C-47 Puff the Magic Dragon gunships a couple of times in Vietnam, as well as the C-130's that replaced them. The Vulcan mini-gun was quite an impressive piece of hardware. IIRC, the original Puff's had 3 mounted in them, and were therefore capable of something like 300 rounds/second...and was feared by the enemy.

"Puff the Magic Dragon

Puff the Magic Dragon, a bird of Cam Ranh bon
Came to fly the evening skies
In a land called Vietnam.

Puff the Magic Dragon, came across the sea,
To write it's name in guns of flame
In the heart of hostile SEA

When the grunts are in trouble
And Charlie's all around
The thoughts may pry into the sky
Beneath the fires on the ground

The VC's mortal terror, starts when many cries
And the Dragon's breath of sudden death
Comes screaming from the sky.

Yes, Puff will still be flying,
>From one corps down to four
Till Charlie's gone and the evening comes
It's like the year before.

But I'll remember always,
the ground troops grateful cry,
When fire is beamed and Charlie screamed
At the Dragon in the sky.

Now Dragons live forever and the Puff is just the same,
The Gooney Bird will still be heard when Grandpa is my name.
It will have to roam the skies with friends ..not with me
For I'm going home, no more to roam
In a land across the sea.

Puff the Magic Dragon, a bird of Cam Ranh bon
Came to fly the evening skies
In a land called Vietnam.

Puff the Magic Dragon, came across the sea,
To write it's name in guns of flame
In the heart of hostile SEA"


I was just a grunt, so I never saw one "up close," but I saw what they could do.


http://www.diggerhistory.info/...ietnam/spooky-puff.htm

My respect for you just went up. I didn't know you served over there.
 
Aug 23, 2000
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Impressive. Interesting they were firing in such short bursts, conserving ammo I guess.

when you're shooting coke cans at people you don't need quite as many as you would if you were shooting a hand gun at them.
 

rezinn

Platinum Member
Mar 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
What worries me is that the guy claimed he was "99.9% sure" it was a weapon when it was frackin' hard to tell.

Of course, when the guy pulls out a Kalashnikov later it's pretty obvious...

When you're a soldier and you see weapons every day in peoples hands, I'm sure its much easier to tell. It looked like he was covering up a weapon the second time I watched it but not the first.
 

AMCRambler

Diamond Member
Jan 23, 2001
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I'm building a model of an AC-47. I went online to get pics of their paint schemes so I could make it more realistic and ended up reading about them. I guess they got the nick name "Spooky" because of the noise the guns made when they fired. I guess it sounded like a low pitched moan. The vietnamese used to call them dragons because of the flames that shot out of the side from the vulcan machine guns I guess too.
 

TehMac

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Aug 18, 2006
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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: TallBill
What a high stress decision these guys are making. I'm sure it's "fun" to take bad guys out like this, but a bad decision ends careers.
If you can call that a career.

Yes, yes, we understand you're mentally incapacitated, but don't go showing it off.
 

TehMac

Diamond Member
Aug 18, 2006
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Impressive. Interesting they were firing in such short bursts, conserving ammo I guess.

They were probably holding down the trigger, but the thing is, they don't want rounds cooking off, because of the heat for the barrel.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: spidey07
Impressive. Interesting they were firing in such short bursts, conserving ammo I guess.

They were probably holding down the trigger, but the thing is, they don't want rounds cooking off, because of the heat for the barrel.

That, or they didn't see any ammo packs hanging from parachutes nearby.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Makes me want to play CoD4 again.
It's kind of weird, but that gunship mission was really one of my favorite parts of that game.

I didn't much care for the realism and fighting atmosphere of the rest of the game though. I guess I'm not much of a fan of warfare, or the desperate feeling of it. I'm not a fan of adrenaline.

 

Linflas

Lifer
Jan 30, 2001
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
I had the experience of seeing the original C-47 Puff the Magic Dragon gunships a couple of times in Vietnam, as well as the C-130's that replaced them. The Vulcan mini-gun was quite an impressive piece of hardware. IIRC, the original Puff's had 3 mounted in them, and were therefore capable of something like 300 rounds/second...and was feared by the enemy.

"Puff the Magic Dragon

Puff the Magic Dragon, a bird of Cam Ranh bon
Came to fly the evening skies
In a land called Vietnam.

Puff the Magic Dragon, came across the sea,
To write it's name in guns of flame
In the heart of hostile SEA

When the grunts are in trouble
And Charlie's all around
The thoughts may pry into the sky
Beneath the fires on the ground

The VC's mortal terror, starts when many cries
And the Dragon's breath of sudden death
Comes screaming from the sky.

Yes, Puff will still be flying,
>From one corps down to four
Till Charlie's gone and the evening comes
It's like the year before.

But I'll remember always,
the ground troops grateful cry,
When fire is beamed and Charlie screamed
At the Dragon in the sky.

Now Dragons live forever and the Puff is just the same,
The Gooney Bird will still be heard when Grandpa is my name.
It will have to roam the skies with friends ..not with me
For I'm going home, no more to roam
In a land across the sea.

Puff the Magic Dragon, a bird of Cam Ranh bon
Came to fly the evening skies
In a land called Vietnam.

Puff the Magic Dragon, came across the sea,
To write it's name in guns of flame
In the heart of hostile SEA"


I was just a grunt, so I never saw one "up close," but I saw what they could do.


http://www.diggerhistory.info/...ietnam/spooky-puff.htm

There was a book written about those called The gooney bird: A wacky novel about the daffiest DC-3 in the U.S. Air Force
by William C Anderson. It really brought home the amount of firepower these things could deliver.
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
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www.integratedssr.com
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
The flip side of that is finding a link to one of a KBR truck convoy getting ambushed, and the driver being trapped in his cab with no weapon and no covering vehicles.... and he sees the insurgents finishing off the truck driver of the truck they managed to flip.
It was damn chilling to watch.

There is no satisfaction in this war.

Ahh found this buried in the comments section....
The video, shot on Sept. 20, 2005 by KBR truck driver Preston Wheeler


Three KBR truck? drivers were killed that day. They are Keven Dagit, 42 (in truck 3), of Jefferson, Iowa; Christopher Lem, 40, (in truck 1) of Lyndon Station, Wisconsin; and Sascha Grenner-Case (in truck 4) of Sierra Vista, Arizona. Wheeler, who lives in Arkansas, was shot and barely survived. Two other drivers, including Terry Steward (in truck 2) of Idaho, were also injured. "
KBR convoy ambushed


That's some horrible shit to be in.

no doubt, but it's war.
 

NoShangriLa

Golden Member
Sep 3, 2006
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Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: TallBill
What a high stress decision these guys are making. I'm sure it's "fun" to take bad guys out like this, but a bad decision ends careers.
If you can call that a career.

Actually, you can call it one of the most respected careers in the United States. As an institution, the military is the most respected in the US: Gallup poll. As a career, military officers (poll wording, not mine) are rated 4th in the country, behind nurses, grade-school teachers, and druggists/pharmacists and ahead of doctors, clergy, police, and judges: Gallup poll #2.

Where does your career, if you have one, fall on those lists?
Sorry to disappointed you.

The poll/s reassure that much of the population do not make intelligent choices; just as how the majority of Americans blindly followed and elected their deceitful leader into office not only once but twice consecutively.

:(

 

rasczak

Lifer
Jan 29, 2005
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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: TallBill
What a high stress decision these guys are making. I'm sure it's "fun" to take bad guys out like this, but a bad decision ends careers.
If you can call that a career.

Actually, you can call it one of the most respected careers in the United States. As an institution, the military is the most respected in the US: Gallup poll. As a career, military officers (poll wording, not mine) are rated 4th in the country, behind nurses, grade-school teachers, and druggists/pharmacists and ahead of doctors, clergy, police, and judges: Gallup poll #2.

Where does your career, if you have one, fall on those lists?
Sorry to disappointed you.

The poll/s reassure that much of the population do not make intelligent choices; just as how the majority of Americans blindly followed and elected their deceitful leader into office not only once but twice consecutively.

:(

Please don't turn this into a political thread. This thread is about killing terrorists and killing terrorists only.

Have a nice day. :)
 

AndrewR

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: NoShangriLa
Originally posted by: TallBill
What a high stress decision these guys are making. I'm sure it's "fun" to take bad guys out like this, but a bad decision ends careers.
If you can call that a career.

Actually, you can call it one of the most respected careers in the United States. As an institution, the military is the most respected in the US: Gallup poll. As a career, military officers (poll wording, not mine) are rated 4th in the country, behind nurses, grade-school teachers, and druggists/pharmacists and ahead of doctors, clergy, police, and judges: Gallup poll #2.

Where does your career, if you have one, fall on those lists?
Sorry to disappointed you.

The poll/s reassure that much of the population do not make intelligent choices; just as how the majority of Americans blindly followed and elected their deceitful leader into office not only once but twice consecutively.

:(

There's nothing that goads me more than some asshole Canadian who wants to criticize American politics as if he has the first notion about this country. What an idea, that I as a citizen of another country, respect your military more than you do. I bet you're the type of person that would piss on the beaches of Dieppe at the thought of brave Canadian soldiers dying there.
 

Connoisseur

Platinum Member
Sep 14, 2002
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I'm actually kinda glad that they sat there for a while debating whether or not the people in the truck had guns. Shows concern for human life as well as the extreme caution they take when using such powerful weapons. Definitely a sharp contrast from all the news stories about "gung ho" soldiers killing civilians. Kinda shows how the news can skew visibility/opinion towards the war and our soldiers.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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That was very upsetting. They should have gone to rockets. :p Seriously, they could have taken out EVERYONE with one shot. I guess bullets are cheaper?
 

OS

Lifer
Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: AlienCraft
The flip side of that is finding a link to one of a KBR truck convoy getting ambushed, and the driver being trapped in his cab with no weapon and no covering vehicles.... and he sees the insurgents finishing off the truck driver of the truck they managed to flip.
It was damn chilling to watch.

There is no satisfaction in this war.

Ahh found this buried in the comments section....
The video, shot on Sept. 20, 2005 by KBR truck driver Preston Wheeler


Three KBR truck? drivers were killed that day. They are Keven Dagit, 42 (in truck 3), of Jefferson, Iowa; Christopher Lem, 40, (in truck 1) of Lyndon Station, Wisconsin; and Sascha Grenner-Case (in truck 4) of Sierra Vista, Arizona. Wheeler, who lives in Arkansas, was shot and barely survived. Two other drivers, including Terry Steward (in truck 2) of Idaho, were also injured. "
KBR convoy ambushed

That's some horrible shit to be in.



what f--king sucks is skimming the comments, apparently if you are a contractor in the ME, you are not allowed the carry weapons. wth