Terror Trials cost tax payers 200 million a year

[Hacp]

Providing security for the trials of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and other terrorism suspects connected with the Sept. 11 attacks will cost more than $200 million a year, according to the Bloomberg administration, making it one of the most expensive security operations ever taken on by the city.

Read more at
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/nyregion/07terror.html?ref=nyregion

So a few thoughts on this. 200 million? 200 million? Are you serious? Him blowing up the WTC wasn't enough, now we need to finance the terrorist scum's trial? We're already have a major defecit thanks to Obama, now it'll increase by 200 million. But hey, 200 million is just pennies compared to the double digit trillion dollar defecit. Its not like spending 200 million here and 200 million there will add up to any real money...

I say lets just execute this guy's ass and use the 200 million to pay off our national debt.(Yes I know its a city related cost but most likely the city will be reimbursed by the government.)

 

[rudder]

Repost!!!!!

 

[Hacp]

Repost!!!!!

No my thread was posted first.

 

[drebo]

200 million is a drop in the bucket compared to the 900 BILLION the Dems want to spend on "healthcare reform" and the previous 1.6 TRILLION that fiscal liberals already used to "bail out" (read: take over) US companies.

Concern where concern is due. This is just a distraction from the real issues. Typical political rhetoric: point fingers at the small special interests to avoid media scrutiny of the major spending issues.

 

[marincounty]

Pay all defense lawyers a maximum of $50 per hour for terrorism trials. Problem solved.

 

[cubby1223]

I say lets just execute this guy's ass

Obama already declared him guilty and to be executed. Let's just follow that plan and skip the expenses
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw9OJJCU5y4

 

[fskimospy]

Man this Constitution thing is really costing us a lot of money, lets get rid of it.

 

[CitizenKain]

Man this Constitution thing is really costing us a lot of money, lets get rid of it.

Well the rightwing isn't. When they get frog marched into the Gayification Camps they will probably regret it though.

 

[Robor]

200 million is a drop in the bucket compared to the 900 BILLION the Dems want to spend on "healthcare reform" and the previous 1.6 TRILLION that fiscal liberals already used to "bail out" (read: take over) US companies.

Concern where concern is due. This is just a distraction from the real issues. Typical political rhetoric: point fingers at the small special interests to avoid media scrutiny of the major spending issues.

How convenient you leave out the trillions spent on the war on terrar.

 

[Atreus21]

Read more at
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/nyregion/07terror.html?ref=nyregion

So a few thoughts on this. 200 million? 200 million? Are you serious? Him blowing up the WTC wasn't enough, now we need to finance the terrorist scum's trial? We're already have a major defecit thanks to Obama, now it'll increase by 200 million. But hey, 200 million is just pennies compared to the double digit trillion dollar defecit. Its not like spending 200 million here and 200 million there will add up to any real money...

I say lets just execute this guy's ass and use the 200 million to pay off our national debt.(Yes I know its a city related cost but most likely the city will be reimbursed by the government.)

Billion is the new million. If it's not in the billions, it doesn't count.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Read more at
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/nyregion/07terror.html?ref=nyregion

So a few thoughts on this. 200 million? 200 million? Are you serious? Him blowing up the WTC wasn't enough, now we need to finance the terrorist scum's trial? We're already have a major defecit thanks to Obama, now it'll increase by 200 million. But hey, 200 million is just pennies compared to the double digit trillion dollar defecit. Its not like spending 200 million here and 200 million there will add up to any real money...

I say lets just execute this guy's ass and use the 200 million to pay off our national debt.(Yes I know its a city related cost but most likely the city will be reimbursed by the government.)

I agree....lets just execute Hacp, since he is obviously a terrorist. He doesn't need a trial either, since he is obviously guilty. We don't need to follow the Constitution, it's just a piece of paper, right?

See what happens when you try and break the law? Bad things happen. Innocent people get locked up and executed. I bet if you were locked up, you would demand a trial. Talk about double standards.

 

[woolfe9999]

I agree....lets just execute Hacp, since he is obviously a terrorist. He doesn't need a trial either, since he is obviously guilty. We don't need to follow the Constitution, it's just a piece of paper, right?

See what happens when you try and break the law? Bad things happen. Innocent people get locked up and executed. I bet if you were locked up, you would demand a trial. Talk about double standards.

To be fair, I would point out that this trial is going to be expensive mainly because of the security required in New York. We could try him in a military court, or even a civilian court somewhere with less security needs, and it would be a lot cheaper. The cost of a trial itself, any trial, absent these security costs, is a tiny fraction of this number. You can support the guy's right to a trial and still be disgruntled over it costing this much.

- wolf

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

To be fair, I would point out that this trial is going to be expensive mainly because of the security required in New York. We could try him in a military court, or even a civilian court somewhere with less security needs, and it would be a lot cheaper. The cost of a trial itself, any trial, absent these security costs, is a tiny fraction of this number. You can support the guy's right to a trial and still be disgruntled over it costing this much.

- wolf

True, but the OP is pretty clearly saying that no trial is needed.

 

[theflyingpig]

For $200 million, we could kill them and cover it up with a massive propaganda campaign. Better solution IMO. Everyone knows this.

 

[woolfe9999]

True, but the OP is pretty clearly saying that no trial is needed.

You're right. I have a tendency to ignore comments like HACP's last sentence and pretend that I am dealing with a rational viewpoint. It's the opposite of straw manning the argument: when you impute to your opponent a better argument than the one actually made.

Given the cost, I don't really like the decision to try him in New York. I think this was a decision made for political/perception reasons. While the decision to try him in civilian court is not popular, Obama/Holder are counting on a conviction and a death sentence, and having this happen at ground zero would be historic and, in retrospect, very popular, or so they think. Regardless of whether or not they are right, I think it's fiscally irresponsible to pursue an option this expensive during a massive national/statewide/local deficit crisis, for obvious political reasons, when you can provide a fair trial at far less expense.

- wolf

 

[Genx87]

Man this Constitution thing is really costing us a lot of money, lets get rid of it.

Not like either part abides by it anyways. Whenever it suits their needs, they trample it.

 

[ayabe]

Well the rightwing isn't. When they get frog marched into the Gayification Camps they will probably regret it though.

It'll be like the camps in Red Dawn - though a lot cleaner and with cutoff hotpants.

Wolverinessssss

 

[feralkid]

For $200 million, we could kill them and cover it up with a massive propaganda campaign. Better solution IMO. Everyone knows this.

They do now. Thanks for letting the cat out of the bag, Muhammed.

 

[JSt0rm]

Well the rightwing isn't. When they get frog marched into the Gayification Camps they will probably regret it though.

lmao!!