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Muadib

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Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Muadib
If the Vikings would have done this instead of trading Moss, football would still have meaning for me.

The Eagles are between a rock & a hard place. Dump TO now, and welcome to last place, and kiss any playoff hopes bye bye.

Crybaby or not, I've agreed with most of what he's said. This is what Phila gets for screwing him over.

Philly has never in any way screwed him over. He is due a $7.5 million roster bonus next year...at age 33....yea, they are really screwing him bad.

oh please, the players never seem to get their roster bonuses. They always end up restructuring the contract. Thats why they put all the bonuses at the end of the # of years.

Exactly!!! He put his carreer on the line playing in the SB last year, and Philly said fu. Payback's a b$%ch!!!
 

Kev

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WTF is this Eagles season over crap? They went to the NFC championship game 3 years in a row without him and won the 4th year without him.
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Syringer
What's the point of suspending him when he's injured?

1. makes a statement
2. costs him $200K per game

It's not gonna cost him squat!! They can stop him from playing, but taking money from him when all he did was speak his mind, aint gonna happen.
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: Kev
WTF is this Eagles season over crap? They went to the NFC championship game 3 years in a row without him and won the 4th year without him.

good point. only problem is that the eagles are plauged by injuries at critical positions, recievers are gone, mcnabb playing through a sports hernia, akers is qustionable. punter johnson is out(IR), both starting DEs, NDkalu and Jevon kearse are hurt, dt Grasmanis, and rayburn and wlker are hurt, rb buckhalter is ir too, i mean in a west coast/ heavy pass offense that expects to put giant pressure on defense, having so many d linemen/ lbs injured and both starting wrs out is not exactly good for your team since the men in the box(D line, Linebackers) on defense under the 46 scheme and the recievers/ rbs in the west coast scheme are the most important players on the team. this year is all but over if the eagles continue injured like this. i'm just looking to next year.

the report is:
T. Owens WR Questionable Ankle
D. Akers K Questionable Right Hamstring
N. Kalu DE Probable Shoulder
J. Kearse DE Questionable Shoulder
S. Rayburn DT Questionable Stinger
M. Lewis S Probable Quadricep
D. McNabb QB Questionable Rib/Sports Hernia
Z. Moreno LB Probable Groin
J. Short LB Probable Ankle
J. Trotter LB Probable Knee
D. Walker DT Probable Thigh
L. Gordon RB Probable Ankle
Injured Reserve
Player Status Injury
T. Pinkston WR IR Ruptured Achilles tendon
C. Buckhalter RB IR Knee
P. Grasmanis DT IR Achilles/knee
D. Johnson P
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Syringer
What's the point of suspending him when he's injured?

1. makes a statement
2. costs him $200K per game

It's not gonna cost him squat!! They can stop him from playing, but taking money from him when all he did was speak his mind, aint gonna happen.

Not true at all. When a player is suspended, they don't get paid for that week.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: Kev
WTF is this Eagles season over crap? They went to the NFC championship game 3 years in a row without him and won the 4th year without him.

A) McNabb is playing hurt and doesn't look to be getting any better
B) The offensive line is older and not what it used to be
C) Before they had Owens, their top 3 receivers were Pinkston, Thrash, and Mitchell. Not exactly an all-star crew, but certainly better than Lewis, Brown, and McMullen
D) Rookie punter
E) Much less depth on the defensive line & at linebacker...unable to absorp injuries like before
F) The NFC East is much stronger than its been in past years

There's a few for you.
 

Accipiter22

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I don't believe what he said about his qb, and then talking about mcnabb, and how favre has better 'knowledge' of the QB position...on around the horn the other day a guy made a good point, that if TO was white, everyone would be screaming racism at how he said a qb who was white knew more than a guy who happened to be black.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Kev
WTF is this Eagles season over crap? They went to the NFC championship game 3 years in a row without him and won the 4th year without him.

A) McNabb is playing hurt and doesn't look to be getting any better
B) The offensive line is older and not what it used to be
C) Before they had Owens, their top 3 receivers were Pinkston, Thrash, and Mitchell. Not exactly an all-star crew, but certainly better than Lewis, Brown, and McMullen
D) Rookie punter
E) Much less depth on the defensive line & at linebacker...unable to absorp injuries like before
F) The NFC East is much stronger than its been in past years

There's a few for you.

none of those reasons mean the season is over. if you have a chance check out the eagle's record the past 4 years in november and december.
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Syringer
What's the point of suspending him when he's injured?

1. makes a statement
2. costs him $200K per game

It's not gonna cost him squat!! They can stop him from playing, but taking money from him when all he did was speak his mind, aint gonna happen.

Not true at all. When a player is suspended, they don't get paid for that week.

It will only be temporary, they have a union you know, and there is no way in hell that they won't back TO.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: Kev
WTF is this Eagles season over crap? They went to the NFC championship game 3 years in a row without him and won the 4th year without him.

good point. only problem is that the eagles are plauged by injuries at critical positions, recievers are gone, mcnabb playing through a sports hernia, akers is qustionable. punter johnson is out(IR), both starting DEs, NDkalu and Jevon kearse are hurt, dt Grasmanis, and rayburn and wlker are hurt, rb buckhalter is ir too, i mean in a west coast/ heavy pass offense that expects to put giant pressure on defense, having so many d linemen/ lbs injured and both starting wrs out is not exactly good for your team since the men in the box(D line, Linebackers) on defense under the 46 scheme and the recievers/ rbs in the west coast scheme are the most important players on the team. this year is all but over if the eagles continue injured like this. i'm just looking to next year.

the report is:
T. Owens WR Questionable Ankle
D. Akers K Questionable Right Hamstring
N. Kalu DE Probable Shoulder
J. Kearse DE Questionable Shoulder
S. Rayburn DT Questionable Stinger
M. Lewis S Probable Quadricep
D. McNabb QB Questionable Rib/Sports Hernia
Z. Moreno LB Probable Groin
J. Short LB Probable Ankle
J. Trotter LB Probable Knee
D. Walker DT Probable Thigh
L. Gordon RB Probable Ankle
Injured Reserve
Player Status Injury
T. Pinkston WR IR Ruptured Achilles tendon
C. Buckhalter RB IR Knee
P. Grasmanis DT IR Achilles/knee
D. Johnson P

I've seen much worse injury reports.
 

Accipiter22

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anyone else remember the Bucs sending keyshawn home a few years back, basically saying 'we might be worse off record wise without you, but we're a better team'? i'm reminded of that
 

kinev

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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
anyone else remember the Bucs sending keyshawn home a few years back, basically saying 'we might be worse off record wise without you, but we're a better team'? i'm reminded of that

Darn right. Bucs were a better team without him. Screwed over the cowboys too when they traded him for Galloway.
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: Kev
WTF is this Eagles season over crap? They went to the NFC championship game 3 years in a row without him and won the 4th year without him.

good point. only problem is that the eagles are plauged by injuries at critical positions, recievers are gone, mcnabb playing through a sports hernia, akers is qustionable. punter johnson is out(IR), both starting DEs, NDkalu and Jevon kearse are hurt, dt Grasmanis, and rayburn and wlker are hurt, rb buckhalter is ir too, i mean in a west coast/ heavy pass offense that expects to put giant pressure on defense, having so many d linemen/ lbs injured and both starting wrs out is not exactly good for your team since the men in the box(D line, Linebackers) on defense under the 46 scheme and the recievers/ rbs in the west coast scheme are the most important players on the team. this year is all but over if the eagles continue injured like this. i'm just looking to next year.

the report is:
T. Owens WR Questionable Ankle
D. Akers K Questionable Right Hamstring
N. Kalu DE Probable Shoulder
J. Kearse DE Questionable Shoulder
S. Rayburn DT Questionable Stinger
M. Lewis S Probable Quadricep
D. McNabb QB Questionable Rib/Sports Hernia
Z. Moreno LB Probable Groin
J. Short LB Probable Ankle
J. Trotter LB Probable Knee
D. Walker DT Probable Thigh
L. Gordon RB Probable Ankle
Injured Reserve
Player Status Injury
T. Pinkston WR IR Ruptured Achilles tendon
C. Buckhalter RB IR Knee
P. Grasmanis DT IR Achilles/knee
D. Johnson P

I've seen much worse injury reports.

yuo have to take into effect how much each player is crucial to the team.
akers is crucial. philidelphia like to kick. owens/pinkston are crucial because phidelphia loves to pass and the backups are who? lewis and brown? Westbrook and Smith?
Buckhaleter is a 50/50 split time back with westbrook. their only balanced back. westbrook is a recieving threat but not powerful to go up the midline 20 times a game. Tapeh is slow as hell. the d linemen and linebackers are the very core of a 46 defense which is all about pressuring the qb and stopping runs at the line.

besides how many of those worse injury reports were able to scrape together a good season and go to the nf championships or superbowl?
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: The_Dude8
Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
if the eagles release him...do you think any other team would pick him up...it would be hard not to for a really struggling team


if the eagles release to, maybe the packers could sign him, since the packers are in need of a wr.


well, TO did said that eagles could use someone like that dude who's the QB for packers.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: Kev
WTF is this Eagles season over crap? They went to the NFC championship game 3 years in a row without him and won the 4th year without him.

good point. only problem is that the eagles are plauged by injuries at critical positions, recievers are gone, mcnabb playing through a sports hernia, akers is qustionable. punter johnson is out(IR), both starting DEs, NDkalu and Jevon kearse are hurt, dt Grasmanis, and rayburn and wlker are hurt, rb buckhalter is ir too, i mean in a west coast/ heavy pass offense that expects to put giant pressure on defense, having so many d linemen/ lbs injured and both starting wrs out is not exactly good for your team since the men in the box(D line, Linebackers) on defense under the 46 scheme and the recievers/ rbs in the west coast scheme are the most important players on the team. this year is all but over if the eagles continue injured like this. i'm just looking to next year.

the report is:
T. Owens WR Questionable Ankle
D. Akers K Questionable Right Hamstring
N. Kalu DE Probable Shoulder
J. Kearse DE Questionable Shoulder
S. Rayburn DT Questionable Stinger
M. Lewis S Probable Quadricep
D. McNabb QB Questionable Rib/Sports Hernia
Z. Moreno LB Probable Groin
J. Short LB Probable Ankle
J. Trotter LB Probable Knee
D. Walker DT Probable Thigh
L. Gordon RB Probable Ankle
Injured Reserve
Player Status Injury
T. Pinkston WR IR Ruptured Achilles tendon
C. Buckhalter RB IR Knee
P. Grasmanis DT IR Achilles/knee
D. Johnson P

I've seen much worse injury reports.

yuo have to take into effect how much each player is crucial to the team.
akers is crucial. philidelphia like to kick. owens/pinkston are crucial because phidelphia loves to pass and the backups are who? lewis and brown? Westbrook and Smith?
Buckhaleter is a 50/50 split time back with westbrook. their only balanced back. westbrook is a recieving threat but not powerful to go up the midline 20 times a game. Tapeh is slow as hell. the d linemen and linebackers are the very core of a 46 defense which is all about pressuring the qb and stopping runs at the line.

besides how many of those worse injury reports were able to scrape together a good season and go to the nf championships or superbowl?

How about the 2003 Eagles (lost dawkins, taylor, and vincent for most of the season - 3 pro bowl secondary players, their starting D-Line) or last year's Patriots?

Pinkston and Buckhalter have been out all year, so that's no change. And I've never heard someone refer to a kicker as "crucial."

Tapeh? Wtf? Why do you even mention him?

I get the impression you really, really don't know what you're talking about and just did a google search on "eagles injury report" and based everything off of that.
 

Reckoner

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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: Kev
WTF is this Eagles season over crap? They went to the NFC championship game 3 years in a row without him and won the 4th year without him.

good point. only problem is that the eagles are plauged by injuries at critical positions, recievers are gone, mcnabb playing through a sports hernia, akers is qustionable. punter johnson is out(IR), both starting DEs, NDkalu and Jevon kearse are hurt, dt Grasmanis, and rayburn and wlker are hurt, rb buckhalter is ir too, i mean in a west coast/ heavy pass offense that expects to put giant pressure on defense, having so many d linemen/ lbs injured and both starting wrs out is not exactly good for your team since the men in the box(D line, Linebackers) on defense under the 46 scheme and the recievers/ rbs in the west coast scheme are the most important players on the team. this year is all but over if the eagles continue injured like this. i'm just looking to next year.

the report is:
T. Owens WR Questionable Ankle
D. Akers K Questionable Right Hamstring
N. Kalu DE Probable Shoulder
J. Kearse DE Questionable Shoulder
S. Rayburn DT Questionable Stinger
M. Lewis S Probable Quadricep
D. McNabb QB Questionable Rib/Sports Hernia
Z. Moreno LB Probable Groin
J. Short LB Probable Ankle
J. Trotter LB Probable Knee
D. Walker DT Probable Thigh
L. Gordon RB Probable Ankle
Injured Reserve
Player Status Injury
T. Pinkston WR IR Ruptured Achilles tendon
C. Buckhalter RB IR Knee
P. Grasmanis DT IR Achilles/knee
D. Johnson P

I've seen much worse injury reports.

yuo have to take into effect how much each player is crucial to the team.
akers is crucial. philidelphia like to kick. owens/pinkston are crucial because phidelphia loves to pass and the backups are who? lewis and brown? Westbrook and Smith?
Buckhaleter is a 50/50 split time back with westbrook. their only balanced back. westbrook is a recieving threat but not powerful to go up the midline 20 times a game. Tapeh is slow as hell. the d linemen and linebackers are the very core of a 46 defense which is all about pressuring the qb and stopping runs at the line.

besides how many of those worse injury reports were able to scrape together a good season and go to the nf championships or superbowl?

How about the 2003 Eagles (lost dawkins, taylor, and vincent for most of the season - 3 pro bowl secondary players, their starting D-Line) or last year's Patriots?

Pinkston and Buckhalter have been out all year, so that's no change. And I've never heard someone refer to a kicker as "crucial."

Tapeh? Wtf? Why do you even mention him?

I get the impression you really, really don't know what you're talking about and just did a google search on "eagles injury report" and based everything off of that.

If McNabb was healthy, then I wouldn't count the Eagles out. But McNabb is nowhere near 100%; you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out from the past 4 games.
 

codeyf

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Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
If McNabb was healthy, then I wouldn't count the Eagles out. But McNabb is nowhere near 100%; you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out from the past 4 games.

Bingo!
 

Carbo

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The season is over for the Eagles. Stick a fork in 'em. They're done. They now begin that long, painful descent into NFL oblivion, bottom feeders, doing battle with the Texans in front of a home crowd of 35,000 drunks.
 

shilala

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I am so thrilled with the Eagles for taking a stand.
TO is an exceptional athlete. He's also a tremendous asshole.
His lack of respect is epic.
The only way I could be any happier is if the NFL tossed his ass forever.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Muadib
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Syringer
What's the point of suspending him when he's injured?

1. makes a statement
2. costs him $200K per game

It's not gonna cost him squat!! They can stop him from playing, but taking money from him when all he did was speak his mind, aint gonna happen.

Not true at all. When a player is suspended, they don't get paid for that week.

It will only be temporary, they have a union you know, and there is no way in hell that they won't back TO.

I'm sure its in his contract. If you do certain things, you can get suspended, and when you're suspended, you don't get paid. That's how it works.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Kev
WTF is this Eagles season over crap? They went to the NFC championship game 3 years in a row without him and won the 4th year without him.

A) McNabb is playing hurt and doesn't look to be getting any better
B) The offensive line is older and not what it used to be
C) Before they had Owens, their top 3 receivers were Pinkston, Thrash, and Mitchell. Not exactly an all-star crew, but certainly better than Lewis, Brown, and McMullen
D) Rookie punter
E) Much less depth on the defensive line & at linebacker...unable to absorp injuries like before
F) The NFC East is much stronger than its been in past years

There's a few for you.

none of those reasons mean the season is over. if you have a chance check out the eagle's record the past 4 years in november and december.

The Eagles won't make the championship game.