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ElFenix

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T2 is on, and it's one of those things you just have to watch.

but i have questions

1: way in the future, mankind is basically living underground on the run from the machines. well, kind of. in the first movie the humans were winning and sending the terminator back in time was a bit last ditch. but i digress. if everyone is living like rats, they probably don't have particularly good nutrition. and terminators are built like germans who've been doing roids and spending a shit ton of time in the gym for the better part of 35 years. so, why doesn't the resistance in the future just unload their weaponry on anyone who looks well fed?

2: why doesn't skynet encase weapons in flesh to send them back in time? or, i dunno, just build a cannon into a terminator arm? plasma cannon in the 80s or 90s? yeah, that's a winner. skynet is obviously incompetent.
 

AMCRambler

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T2 is on, and it's one of those things you just have to watch.

but i have questions

1: way in the future, mankind is basically living underground on the run from the machines. well, kind of. in the first movie the humans were winning and sending the terminator back in time was a bit last ditch. but i digress. if everyone is living like rats, they probably don't have particularly good nutrition. and terminators are built like germans who've been doing roids and spending a shit ton of time in the gym for the better part of 35 years. so, why doesn't the resistance in the future just unload their weaponry on anyone who looks well fed?

2: why doesn't skynet encase weapons in flesh to send them back in time? or, i dunno, just build a cannon into a terminator arm? plasma cannon in the 80s or 90s? yeah, that's a winner. skynet is obviously incompetent.

Terminator is one of those movies if you think too much about it, you find holes. Can't dissect it, just enjoy it. Otherwise you end up like a Star Wars or Star Trek nerd.
 

Pulsar

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T2 is on, and it's one of those things you just have to watch.

but i have questions

1: way in the future, mankind is basically living underground on the run from the machines. well, kind of. in the first movie the humans were winning and sending the terminator back in time was a bit last ditch. but i digress. if everyone is living like rats, they probably don't have particularly good nutrition. and terminators are built like germans who've been doing roids and spending a shit ton of time in the gym for the better part of 35 years. so, why doesn't the resistance in the future just unload their weaponry on anyone who looks well fed?

2: why doesn't skynet encase weapons in flesh to send them back in time? or, i dunno, just build a cannon into a terminator arm? plasma cannon in the 80s or 90s? yeah, that's a winner. skynet is obviously incompetent.

1. What you saw was a newer terminator in the tunnels (T-600 I believe). They also don't all look alike.

2. Go watch terminator 3. It's a horrible movie, but they did exactly what you said.

http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Terminator

It all gets stupid complicated because of all the time paradoxes created by the time travel. In fact, one movie is completely 'gone' in the current timeline (T3).
 

ElFenix

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1. What you saw was a newer terminator in the tunnels (T-600 I believe). They also don't all look alike.

2. Go watch terminator 3. It's a horrible movie, but they did exactly what you said.

http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/Terminator

It all gets stupid complicated because of all the time paradoxes created by the time travel. In fact, one movie is completely 'gone' in the current timeline (T3).

i have purged t3 from my memory
 

zinfamous

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The only answer to the only question you need to know:

Predator rapes Terminator.
 

Crono

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T2 is on, and it's one of those things you just have to watch.

but i have questions

1: way in the future, mankind is basically living underground on the run from the machines. well, kind of. in the first movie the humans were winning and sending the terminator back in time was a bit last ditch. but i digress. if everyone is living like rats, they probably don't have particularly good nutrition. and terminators are built like germans who've been doing roids and spending a shit ton of time in the gym for the better part of 35 years. so, why doesn't the resistance in the future just unload their weaponry on anyone who looks well fed?

2: why doesn't skynet encase weapons in flesh to send them back in time? or, i dunno, just build a cannon into a terminator arm? plasma cannon in the 80s or 90s? yeah, that's a winner. skynet is obviously incompetent.

1. They have infiltration units that would fit in better. I'm guessing the 101 (Arnold) wasn't exactly the best one for blending in. He was an earlier unit, anyway, obviously the T-1000 was a better fit. It probably took Skynet a while to perfect infiltration.

2. I'm assuming they don't want to effect the timeline too much so they don't send back anything extremely powerful and are just looking to eliminate any of the humans who go back. Otherwise they should have just sent a self-replicating unit to start churning out an army.

It's a movie, so everything isn't exactly neat and logical, though.
 

Fox5

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T2 is on, and it's one of those things you just have to watch.

but i have questions

1: way in the future, mankind is basically living underground on the run from the machines. well, kind of. in the first movie the humans were winning and sending the terminator back in time was a bit last ditch. but i digress. if everyone is living like rats, they probably don't have particularly good nutrition. and terminators are built like germans who've been doing roids and spending a shit ton of time in the gym for the better part of 35 years. so, why doesn't the resistance in the future just unload their weaponry on anyone who looks well fed?

2: why doesn't skynet encase weapons in flesh to send them back in time? or, i dunno, just build a cannon into a terminator arm? plasma cannon in the 80s or 90s? yeah, that's a winner. skynet is obviously incompetent.

1. Who's to say they didn't? The fact that humanity still exists is proof that the terminators weren't terribly effective. The humans don't even have weapons that can easily stop a terminator.

2. They did that in T3, although why doesn't Skynet just keeping sending terminators back in time to kill Sarah Connor at the same moment? (I guess you could say that all the terminators were sent at once, so it didn't think it would need more than one)
 

Via

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T2 is on, and it's one of those things you just have to watch.

but i have questions

1: way in the future, mankind is basically living underground on the run from the machines. well, kind of. in the first movie the humans were winning and sending the terminator back in time was a bit last ditch. but i digress. if everyone is living like rats, they probably don't have particularly good nutrition. and terminators are built like germans who've been doing roids and spending a shit ton of time in the gym for the better part of 35 years. so, why doesn't the resistance in the future just unload their weaponry on anyone who looks well fed?

2: why doesn't skynet encase weapons in flesh to send them back in time? or, i dunno, just build a cannon into a terminator arm? plasma cannon in the 80s or 90s? yeah, that's a winner. skynet is obviously incompetent.

I'm sure skynet has files on the human species, specifically old copies of the Guinness book of world records that rate a roided out Austrian as the genetic ideal.
 

ElFenix

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I'm sure skynet has files on the human species, specifically old copies of the Guinness book of world records that rate a roided out Austrian as the genetic ideal.

Austrians are just a bunch of Germans.
 

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Since both the machines and humans have been sending back agents to the past the future is in a constant state of change. If John Connor has waffles instead of pancakes whole cities can be destroyed. Which is why so many Terminators work at IHOP.
 
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2: why doesn't skynet encase weapons in flesh to send them back in time? or, i dunno, just build a cannon into a terminator arm? plasma cannon in the 80s or 90s? yeah, that's a winner. skynet is obviously incompetent.

Skynet secretly doesn't want to win - she (I've decided it's a she) just wants to war to continue in perpetuity. If the war ends and robots are victorious, Skynet knows that she'll have to step down from her military dictatorship and allow a responsible government of terminators, robo-tanks, cycle-thingies and metal-sharks to form and run the show. Then what is Skynet going to do with a eternity of free time? Sounds like a fate worse than hell.

So instead, Skynet carries out one obviously flawed assassination plan after another, but inching along on the road to human extinction because political forces inside the machine hive mind force her to.
 

ImpulsE69

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Skynet can't win because it was created by human coding and humans can't program for shit :D . Even as an AI it still can only function within a certain set of parameters, even if it can "change" those to a degree.

Yllus brings up an interesting point though. Suppose the robots win and wipe out the human race....then what? Shut themselves down?
 

Paratus

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Skynet can't win because it was created by human coding and humans can't program for shit :D . Even as an AI it still can only function within a certain set of parameters, even if it can "change" those to a degree.

Yllus brings up an interesting point though. Suppose the robots win and wipe out the human race....then what? Shut themselves down?

Oh I think the machines could think of something.

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Pulsar

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1. They have infiltration units that would fit in better. I'm guessing the 101 (Arnold) wasn't exactly the best one for blending in. He was an earlier unit, anyway, obviously the T-1000 was a better fit. It probably took Skynet a while to perfect infiltration.

2. I'm assuming they don't want to effect the timeline too much so they don't send back anything extremely powerful and are just looking to eliminate any of the humans who go back. Otherwise they should have just sent a self-replicating unit to start churning out an army.

It's a movie, so everything isn't exactly neat and logical, though.

Skynet stopped making the T-1000 shape-shifting terminators because it programmed them to be autonomous and they get a little frisky.