Terminal server XP/98SE question:

justcrash

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Ok guys... my mm just got a new system, with XP Home on it. I have 98 SE. From what I understand, XP is set up to allow remote access to a system. This sounds pretty good, since she lives 30 miles away, and LOVES things like Banzai buddy, Comet cursor.. you get the picture.. lol.

My question is: Can i do this if I have 98 SE, and how? I use terminal server at work, but never sat it up for a home system(s).

Thanks guys!
 

ivwshane

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Net meeting should work in your case.
You will need to know her IP so you may want to create a shortcut to a program or a link that will give her that info so she can tell you.
This would be really handy if you had a winNT based machine. It requires no client software, you just need to know the admin pass and the IP of the machine.
 

lowtech1

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As ivwshane has explained that Netmeeting can be cool, but it is not as powerfull as TS services or Remote Administrator, etc...

You will need to download Netmeeting from MS site and install it on the Win9.x/ME machine, but on the Win2k/XP box all you need to do is type conf in the run box. Then follow the wizard to config your setting.
 

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Actually, XP Home can only host a remote desktop session. You have to have XP Pro on your machine, if you want your machine to log onto XP Home. So XP Home machine is ready for it, you just have to get XP Pro on your side to log on with.
 

ivwshane

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Or you can just get the TS client that winXP uses and install it on win9X (assuming you can actually install it on a dos based machine). But like I said net meeting would be the best bet;)
 

MetroRider

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well, besides netMeeting, you could always useVNC. It is a free download, and works fairly well (and of course, the faster your internet connection, and hers, the smoother the transitions).

all that has to be done is for the VNC server to be loaded on her machine, and you just load up the client (vncviewer) and then put in her ip address followed by password, and there you go!

hope this helps... if you give it a shot, feel free to ask any questions :)
 

lowtech1

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Actually, XP Home can only host a remote desktop session. You have to have XP Pro on your machine, if you want your machine to log onto XP Home. So XP Home machine is ready for it, you just have to get XP Pro on your side to log on with.
I think that XP home can only be a RDP client not the other way around.

Or you can just get the TS client that winXP uses and install it on win9X (assuming you can actually install it on a dos based machine). But like I said net meeting would be the best bet
Win16 & Win32 are clients that on the NT4/Win2k server disk that you can install on Win9.x/ME & NT4/Win2k workstation. However the newer WinXP universal RDP client can be download & is compatible with Win9.x/ME & NT4/Win2k with the colour translation bug fixed.

Citrix sells RDP client that work on Dos/Windows/Unix/Mac clients to connect to Windows TS server.

Rdesktop is a great free RDP compatible app that let Linux/Unix/Mac to terminal into a NT4/Win2k TS box.

well, besides netMeeting, you could always useVNC. It is a free download, and works fairly well (and of course, the faster your internet connection, and hers, the smoother the transitions).

all that has to be done is for the VNC server to be loaded on her machine, and you just load up the client (vncviewer) and then put in her ip address followed by password, and there you go!

hope this helps... if you give it a shot, feel free to ask any questions
VNC is a nice free setup similar to PCanywhere and Remote Administrator. VNC is free and available for Dos/Windows/Linux/Unix/Mac, but isn't any where near as fast as RDP (TS services). VNC lack options compare to PCanywhere & Remote Administrator, but is a bit faster than PCanywhere & about the same speed as Remote Administrator.

There are several other popular Remote Control/Desktop sharing apps such as Timbuku, and they are quite expensive.

And, then there are such things as Telnet & SSH that is also available.
 

justcrash

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Wow.. now im really overwhelmed.. so would you guys say netmeeting, VNC, or finding TS would be the way to go? :(
 

ucdnam

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Use VNC. It's free and will do the deed for you just fine.
Use google and do a search for TightVNC.

 

lowtech1

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Originally posted by: justcrash
Wow.. now im really overwhelmed.. so would you guys say netmeeting, VNC, or finding TS would be the way to go? :(
It all depend on what your need.

Terminal Services (TS services/RDP - free with Win2k/XP), Citrix TS (expensive), and Rdesktop (free) -- are the best way to go if you need to have a lot of work done daily.

VNC (free), PCanywhere (cost some $), and Remote Administrator (inexpensive) -- are great for the occasional remote administration/online tech support & file transfer.

Netmeeting (free) -- isn't as good as the above, but it is quick and easy way to get the information between peers.

Telnet (free), and SSH (free) -- are the best remote admin tool, but you will need to learn CLI.

Try both becasue it doesn't hurt or cost you money to download/install Netmeeting or VNC. Then try RDP once you have 2 WinXP machine.
 

justcrash

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Originally posted by: lowtech
Originally posted by: justcrash
Wow.. now im really overwhelmed.. so would you guys say netmeeting, VNC, or finding TS would be the way to go? :(
It all depend on what your need.

Terminal Services (TS services/RDP - free with Win2k/XP), Citrix TS (expensive), and Rdesktop (free) -- are the best way to go if you need to have a lot of work done daily.

VNC (free), PCanywhere (cost some $), and Remote Administrator (inexpensive) -- are great for the occasional remote administration/online tech support & file transfer.

Netmeeting (free) -- isn't as good as the above, but it is quick and easy way to get the information between peers.

Telnet (free), and SSH (free) -- are the best remote admin tool, but you will need to learn CLI.

Try both becasue it doesn't hurt or cost you money to download/install Netmeeting or VNC. Then try RDP once you have 2 WinXP machine.


Thank you! :)
 

MetroRider

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lowtech,

good in-depth explanation of the possibilities! Personally, I find that overall, TS + Citrix is the best overall remote experience there is, yet does not come cheap. However, for quick, in-house jobs, or light administration, VNC is on the easiest and fastest devices to use to do quick admin work on a pc.

btw, a bit off-topic here, but for any of you that use the Citrix ICA client, have you found it being a bit quicker or more responsive when run from Linux as opposed to Windows? it is quick for me from within Windows, yet feels even smoother in Linux. Pretty neat I think. Your suggestions...... :)
 

lowtech1

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btw, a bit off-topic here, but for any of you that use the Citrix ICA client, have you found it being a bit quicker or more responsive when run from Linux as opposed to Windows? it is quick for me from within Windows, yet feels even smoother in Linux. Pretty neat I think. Your suggestions...... :)
It felt about the same in Unix & Windows for me. Which I assume should be the same in Windows. However I think the Citrix ICA (RDP) is better optimizes (newer) than the one that they sold to MS, therefore I think it is a little faster.

I found that Rdesktop (ICA) for linux is quite a good free tool, just about as good as MS RDP client for terminal into Windows TS.