Tenant's Responsibility? Hurricane related

[SP33Demon]

I think you do not know what its like after a hurricane. Everyone that can hold a chainsaw is going to be busy for the next few weeks.

Clear the roads of fallen trees
Get trees off power lines
Get trees off houses

Stuff like this is more important then ops yard

Nobody is disputing that tree surgeons will be busy. The crux of the matter is whether the OP is actually fiscally liable. Someone will have to pay for it whether it entails him buying a chainsaw or having his neighbor help him. Nothing is free in this world and the lease says that the landlord is fiscally responsible (yet claims he is not). How it actually gets done is for another thread.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Holy shit the janitor job title has got to be the most evolutionary title as of late!

Glad you guys liked it

 

[DrPizza]

That's about the size of a large branch.

Before I pass judgment on the OP, OP - picture of this branch? I'm going to guess that we get to mock you (and others) after you post a picture. Here's a picture of the "branch" down in my front yard. My son (14? at the time) took care of the entire thing himself, with the exception of the main part of the trunk - and only because the 18" chainsaw was too small to make it all the way through - even when cutting from both sides.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/drpizza/briantree.jpg

However, I feel inclined to ask - wtf kind of shithole city/town/neighborhood does the OP live in where the neighbors haven't gotten together and helped each other out with problems like "branches" in the yard? We get a storm around here that knocks something down, and a lot of people volunteer to help.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Awesome pic Pizza. Tell your son "You da man!!". My son is 5, already bugging me to go clean up the tree's and branches that came down in the hurricane. At 14, he'll be sawing it up too

 

[Texashiker]

That's about the size of a large branch.

Its the top of a pine tree. Some of the pine trees get over 100 feet tall around here. During high winds the tops will snap off.

The house belongs to a friend of the family, she is an elderly lady who evacuated. As soon as the winds died down a little bit my wife, a friend of mine and I left the shelter the checked on her house.

Before I pass judgment on the OP, OP - picture of this branch?

I would like to see a pic of this limb as well.

My mom and dad have a pen oak tree that blew down on their farm, its probably about 100+ feet long and maybe 30 inches across. As soon as the weather cools off a little bit the tree is going to be cut up for firewood.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Who has to live with it, who wants it out? Just do it and be done imo. Just ask permission but from the sound of it he basically wants you to do it anyway.

 

[Jeff7]

I really think you're missing the point.

Say you're at work, and the custodial engineer is out sick. Now, SOMEone has to empty the trash and clean the toilets. Pitch in buddy, do a little more, right? Well, I'm sure you'd jump right in, even though it wasn't in your employment agreement. Because, well, that's just the type of stand-up guy you are.

rofl

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And I'm a Doctor of Neffery.

 

[Zargon]

That's about the size of a large branch.

Before I pass judgment on the OP, OP - picture of this branch? I'm going to guess that we get to mock you (and others) after you post a picture. Here's a picture of the "branch" down in my front yard. My son (14? at the time) took care of the entire thing himself, with the exception of the main part of the trunk - and only because the 18" chainsaw was too small to make it all the way through - even when cutting from both sides.http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/drpizza/briantree.jpg

However, I feel inclined to ask - wtf kind of shithole city/town/neighborhood does the OP live in where the neighbors haven't gotten together and helped each other out with problems like "branches" in the yard? We get a storm around here that knocks something down, and a lot of people volunteer to help.

as he should be, little bastard wasnt working for a living so he works for free for mom and dad!

 

[the DRIZZLE]

I really think you're missing the point.

Say you're at work, and the custodial engineer is out sick. Now, SOMEone has to empty the trash and clean the toilets. Pitch in buddy, do a little more, right? Well, I'm sure you'd jump right in, even though it wasn't in your employment agreement. Because, well, that's just the type of stand-up guy you are.

I actually got chewed out by my boss once for not doing this. I was the engineer on a construction project and someone shit in a toilet that wasn't connected to plumbing. I made one of the laborers clean it up. He said that the laborer complained that I thought I was above cleaning toilets. I certainly do think that being an engineer makes me above cleaning up someones shit so I was completely dumbfounded.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I actually got chewed out by my boss once for not doing this. I was the engineer on a construction project and someone shit in a toilet that wasn't connected to plumbing. I made one of the laborers clean it up. He said that the laborer complained that I thought I was above cleaning toilets. I certainly do think that being an engineer makes me above cleaning up someones shit so I was completely dumbfounded.

Now you know. Education doesn't give you a free ride.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

Now you know. Education doesn't give you a free ride.

Certainly not, but it should move you a few grades above shit cleaner. I've had plenty of bad assignments because I was the low man on the totem pole and I worked plenty of bad jobs to put myself through school including plumbing. The laborer is low man on a construction site, so he gets all the fun jobs.

 

[Paladin3]

I rent and I do some of the maintenance around my home because it's easier to fix a leaky sink myself than to wait for the owner to call a plumber. We are on pretty good terms so it helps if I ever have an issue on my end that I need the owners help with. And it's nice knowing I'm not going to be evicted if I'm three days late with the rent.

That said, owning a rental property is just like running any other business. The costs of doing business are to be paid by the landlord not the tenant, unless stated otherwise in the rental contract. I'll put in reasonable work around the place, but as soon as it costs me more time or money than I am willing to spend, then the landlord needs to take care of HIS property and assume the costs of running HIS business.

 

[Doppel]

I would have thought landlord. If I were a landlord I would not want to piss off a tenant by failing to do such a cleanup on their behalf since they do have control to mess up my property.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Certainly not, but it should move you a few grades above shit cleaner. I've had plenty of bad assignments because I was the low man on the totem pole and I worked plenty of bad jobs to put myself through school including plumbing. The laborer is low man on a construction site, so he gets all the fun jobs.

We're not talking about being transferred to shit clean up duty, we're talking about doing what needs doing in the moment. Too many people think they shouldn't ever have to do work they don't like because they have a <insert degree of choice>. You take the same care cleaning the shit can as you do writing a report not, because you hope the boss will notice but, because a real live human does his best for his own prides sake.

 

[Doppel]

Certainly not, but it should move you a few grades above shit cleaner. I've had plenty of bad assignments because I was the low man on the totem pole and I worked plenty of bad jobs to put myself through school including plumbing. The laborer is low man on a construction site, so he gets all the fun jobs.

I agree. I wouldn't clean up the sh*t, either.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I agree. I wouldn't clean up the sh*t, either.

Another self entitled loser.

 

[the DRIZZLE]

We're not talking about being transferred to shit clean up duty, we're talking about doing what needs doing in the moment. Too many people think they shouldn't ever have to do work they don't like because they have a <insert degree of choice>. You take the same care cleaning the shit can as you do writing a report not, because you hope the boss will notice but, because a real live human does his best for his own prides sake.

The first rule of plumbing is shit runs down hill. That makes it the laborers job.

 

[SamQuint]

You know that if you make the landlord do it then he is only going to pass on the cost to you in the form of an increase in rent. Or he will eventually just kick you out when your lease is over.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

The first rule of plumbing is shit runs down hill. That makes it the laborers job.

The first rule of being a real human being is take care of the job in front of you instead of being a precious self entitled asshole.

 

[iGas]

The first rule of plumbing is shit runs down hill. That makes it the laborers job.

I agree, however there is a distinct different between a good engineer and bad engineer.

A good engineer is one that look out for his flock, and the bad engineer is a lazy ass that only look out for themselves.

That said, I would suck it up and clean up the yard, because it is much quicker getting it done with a positive attitude than bemoan about it.

Congrats to you and wife DrPizza for raising your son to be a stand up citizen.

 

[BoberFett]

That type of attitude is one of the problems with this country - "its not my problem".

When the landlord sells that property someday, what portion of the proceeds to all of his previous tenants get?

That type of attitude is one of the problems with this country - "everyone else do the work, I'll keep the profit."

 

[BoberFett]

Before I pass judgment on the OP, OP - picture of this branch? I'm going to guess that we get to mock you (and others) after you post a picture. Here's a picture of the "branch" down in my front yard. My son (14? at the time) took care of the entire thing himself, with the exception of the main part of the trunk - and only because the 18" chainsaw was too small to make it all the way through - even when cutting from both sides.
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/drpizza/briantree.jpg

Yippy damn skippy for your son. It's also your house, not a rental.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Little bit of an update

First off I am not posting any pictures because no matter what its a no win situation for me. Texas, c'mon man thats not a branch thats a friggin tree that fell on the house.
Dr. Pizza, its nice that you have some help but I do not. My 2 year old son isn't quite old enough to help nor is my one week old daughter. I don't want to ask my wife for help because she only got out of the hospital last week.

Anyways, I spoke with the landlord and showed him in the lease where it says removing the branch is not my responsibility and he agreed and came over, cut it up and brought it to the curb. I on the other hand spent the day outside raking and sweeping up the leaves and smaller branches. I also managed to make a small donation at my local firehouse.

The point of the thread was not to say "oh, I'm not doing that" or "I'm too educated to bring myself to raking up some leaves". The point of the thread was to see if it was my responsibility to take care of the situation. If it was then fine, Ill go out and do it. If not, then I'd want the LL to do it. Like someone mentioned earlier, if and when he decides to sell the home I am not going to get anything for the work I put into the home.

I just moved into this place only 2 month ago. We are still trying to get settled in and we don't know any of our neighbors all that well. Especially not enough to go over and ask for help when they have their own properties to take care of.

One last thing.....I do feel like my wife and I were duped into renting the place. Had it not cost me around $9000 to move into the place (1st month rent, 1 month security, 1 month rent to realtor and moving service) we would have been out after the first week. I could go on about the crap that we have had to deal with but I don't want to derail the thread even further.

One of the things I will reveal is the pool. When we were browsing the ads we saw the home and pool. Now, blame me for this but when we saw the house we didn't bother to actually go out and look at the pool. It had started to rain and the LL's wife had asked us to take our shoes off. We didn't want to walk outside barefoot so we just looked at it from the window and it looked ok.

This is what it looked like

I didn't ask the LL anything in regards to the pool. For the past 2 weeks I have been weeding, raking, edging and trying to get the pool area ready for next year. The concrete of the side wall of the area crumble when you touch it. All of the pool furniture that they left is dry rotted, rusted and not usable. I eventually have to bring it out to the curb for garbage removal.

Thats all I have for now. The situation has been corrected and honestly I'll never rent again.

Edit: forgot to include the picture of the pool in the ad

 

[Icepick]

Do you mow the lawn or do any grass maintenance?

Sounds like you could use the exercise. Man up and get to it bitch.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Do you mow the lawn or do any grass maintenance?

Sounds like you could use the exercise. Man up and get to it bitch.

Reading comprehension....I did it myself already