Ten states propose bills to stop legal protests, including allow legal killing of protesters

brycejones

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Who is brave enough to click on that link? Given the op's less than perfect command of English looks like some fake news marketing.
 

Bitek

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Who is brave enough to click on that link? Given the op's less than perfect command of English looks like some fake news marketing.

Not me... But if true wtf... which should tell you that it is BS.
Unless Obama or Hillary did it, then it's all true, but with more Islam and ritual baby sacrifice.
 
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There is some truth to the story. North Dakota for example proposes lifting any liability from a motorist who "accidentally" injures or kills someone obstructing a roadway. Others have proposed making it a felony punishable with up to five years in prison for blocking a roadway and permits removal by "any means necessary" leaving it to the police to decide what's necessary.

None have been passed, yet. A few of the proposals have already been defeated.

http://www.snopes.com/lawmakers-criminalize-peaceful-protest/
 

Xellos2099

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Protestor can protest all they want as long as they follow the law. But the last I heard, blocking roadway is illegal.
 

glenn1

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There is some truth to the story. North Dakota for example proposes lifting any liability from a motorist who "accidentally" injures or kills someone obstructing a roadway. Others have proposed making it a felony punishable with up to five years in prison for blocking a roadway and permits removal by "any means necessary" leaving it to the police to decide what's necessary.

None have been passed, yet. A few of the proposals have already been defeated.

http://www.snopes.com/lawmakers-criminalize-peaceful-protest/

In the case when someone intentionally obstructs a roadway, the legal standard should be the person standing is presumed to accept the assumption of risk and limited liability applies to the motorist unless gross negligence or callous disregard applies. If you've ever been to North Dakota then you understand how empty it is I don't understand how you'd expect any reasonable motorist to be on constant lookout for a bunch of folks standing in the middle of the highway. After a couple hundred miles of road like the below if I even saw protesters blocking the road I'd wonder if I was seeing imaginary friends and needed to sleep.

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pcgeek11

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Last I heard pedestrians have the right of way, always!

North Dakota for example proposes lifting any liability from a motorist who "accidentally" injures or kills someone obstructing a roadway.

I think that is different than just a pedestrian.
 

Scooby Doo

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North Dakota for example proposes lifting any liability from a motorist who "accidentally" injures or kills someone obstructing a roadway.

I think that is different than just a pedestrian.
Just claim they were going to steal something... you can shot them in the back with another new stupid law. LOL
 

pcgeek11

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Just claim they were going to steal something... you can shot them in the back with another new stupid law. LOL

So you think that a driver accidentlly kills or injures someone obstructing a roadway should be held liable for it? I don't. Accidents happen, esp when a dumbass attempts to block a freeway.
 

norseamd

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Who is brave enough to click on that link? Given the op's less than perfect command of English looks like some fake news marketing.

I dont know anything about the OP or link, but the subject is legit. North Dakota has some bill that legalizes running over protesters and killing them.
 

norseamd

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So you think that a driver accidentlly kills or injures someone obstructing a roadway should be held liable for it? I don't. Accidents happen, esp when a dumbass attempts to block a freeway.

Are you looking for junior high school civics classes for yourself?
 

Zorba

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Protestor can protest all they want as long as they follow the law. But the last I heard, blocking roadway is illegal.

I don't remember that rule in the Constitution. I don't see how blocking a road isn't peaceful. Oh, and btw, conservatives have blocked roads too.
 

norseamd

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I don't remember that rule in the Constitution. I don't see how blocking a road isn't peaceful. Oh, and btw, conservatives have blocked roads too.

I think you mean peaceful. Its illegal, but its not violent. They can be removed in a variety of ways. Its just best to avoid protestors blocking any roads until they are removed.
 

Zorba

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So you think that a driver accidentlly kills or injures someone obstructing a roadway should be held liable for it? I don't. Accidents happen, esp when a dumbass attempts to block a freeway.

Yes, as a driver you are responsible for safely operating your vehicle. Doesn't mean you should get hit with murder charges if it was an accident, but you are still liable. And if it isn't an accident, you should get a neddle in your arm.
 

Scooby Doo

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So you think that a driver accidentlly kills or injures someone obstructing a roadway should be held liable for it? I don't. Accidents happen, esp when a dumbass attempts to block a freeway.
No I was referring to another bill in ND.... deadly force is allowed if there is "reasonable belief" that someone is going to commit a crime... and even when they're attempting to flee...
 

Ackmed

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Terrible thread title, but that was on purpose. Sounds like motorist can just go hunting protesters, which is not the case. The laws are being drafted to protect drivers from legal action if a protester steps in front of their vehicle, like has happened before. Protesting a very important and fundamental right in America, but there are right and wrongs ways to do it. Blocking highways, freeways, or other busy roads is not one of those ways if you do not have permission before hand to do so.

We have protesters at work on the side of the road every single week at my work. Every Sunday for sure, and other days too. Certain dates of the year we have much more than others. There is a "blue" line they cannot cross that separates public property from federal property, If they cross it they will be arrested on Federal charges. To their credit, they stay out of the road the vast majority of the time. I have zero problems with them protesting, its their right. They're doing it the right way most of the time.
 

WelshBloke

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In the case when someone intentionally obstructs a roadway, the legal standard should be the person standing is presumed to accept the assumption of risk and limited liability applies to the motorist unless gross negligence or callous disregard applies. If you've ever been to North Dakota then you understand how empty it is I don't understand how you'd expect any reasonable motorist to be on constant lookout for a bunch of folks standing in the middle of the highway. After a couple hundred miles of road like the below if I even saw protesters blocking the road I'd wonder if I was seeing imaginary friends and needed to sleep.

north-dakota-road.jpg

TBH there is no excuse for accidentally crashing into someone blocking that road!