Temp Question

[2112Rush]

I've just put together my first rig and have been using it a little bit. I finally clicked the Easy Tune5 Pro. It's showing the System fan at 28C/82F and the CPU at 16/60. In the Fan Checklist there is a flashing triangle with an !. It's flashing red then yellow and the RPM's are 0. Is that because I have no fans connected to the MB? I only have the fans in the case hooked up to the PSU. My Tunic Tower CPU fan is connected to the MB. Is it in the wrong spot and that's why it's not showing on the monitor? Are the temps I'm getting OK? I take it the flashing icons for the fans are a problem?

 

[sprok]

You're right about the fans. Spots don't really matter imo as long as the fan spins. As for temps, get something like everest or coretemp to check, mobo utils like easy tune only read temps from the cpu case and not the cores anyway.

 

[2112Rush]

I was planning on getting one of those programs. But when I saw those warnings flash I got a little worried. I just wanted to make sure I was going to burn anything out.

 

[jdkick]

Download CoreTemp and see what it says about your CPU temps. As for the CPU fan, if you want to monitor the RPM make sure it's to the CPU fan header on your motherboard. The fan headers should be labeled, otherwise you will need to consult the manual. If the CPU fan is connected to the proper connector maybe check in the BIOS and see if there are any settings that may have disabled RPM monitoring.

 

[2112Rush]

The CPU connector on the Gigabyte PS35 D3L has 4 pins and the Tunic Tower plug only has 3 pins. I Think I have it in the SYS fan. That's the only other fan connection that has 3 pins.

I just downloaded CoreTemp. It shows

CPU #0: Temperature Readings

Tj Max 212F
Core #0 82F
Core #1 81F
Core #2 75F
Core #3 75F

Are those normal?

In the tool bar the 82 is red, 81 is blue 75 is green and the other 75 is light blue. Do those colors mean anything or are they just to differentiate the 4 temps?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: 2112Rush
The CPU connector on the Gigabyte PS35 D3L has 4 pins and the Tunic Tower plug only has 3 pins. I Think I have it in the SYS fan. That's the only other fan connection that has 3 pins.

I just downloaded CoreTemp. It shows

CPU #0: Temperature Readings

Tj Max 212F
Core #0 82F
Core #1 81F
Core #2 75F
Core #3 75F

Are those normal?

In the tool bar the 82 is red, 81 is blue 75 is green and the other 75 is light blue. Do those colors mean anything or are they just to differentiate the 4 temps?

i almost freaked out until i saw you were giving temps out in F and not C. LOL...

Those are very cool temps. Near room temp if i may add, unless your room is freezing cold, so yes id say those are fairly good temps.

If i may add tho, you cant ask us for temp advice unless you load up that processor on full load. Download a program like Prime95 25.7 or higher. Load the processor up on small FFTs and repost coretemp.

 

[DerwenArtos12]

Originally posted by: 2112Rush
The CPU connector on the Gigabyte PS35 D3L has 4 pins and the Tunic Tower plug only has 3 pins. I Think I have it in the SYS fan. That's the only other fan connection that has 3 pins.

I just downloaded CoreTemp. It shows

CPU #0: Temperature Readings

Tj Max 212F
Core #0 82F
Core #1 81F
Core #2 75F
Core #3 75F

Are those normal?

In the tool bar the 82 is red, 81 is blue 75 is green and the other 75 is light blue. Do those colors mean anything or are they just to differentiate the 4 temps?

Those are good for idles, atleast in F, What are you getting for loads? Try orthos or a couple sessions of prime 95.

EDIT:didn't see aigomorla's post...

 

[Tim]

Congrats on your first build! You're a geek like the others here now.
It sounds like you aren't going to have any problems based off of your idle temps, but just like the above said, check out and report what your temps are when your CPU is under load. You can download it HERE.

 

[2112Rush]

Thanks. It feels good to actually put one of these together. And have it work! :laugh: I couldn't believe how easy it was. Although this site helped a ton. Now if I could just get all the tech speak down, I'd be in good shape.

What is considered a "full load"? I'm not sure what that means. Is that only found by using Prime 95 or by working in a program like Photoshop?

I will definitely get Prime 95 and report back.

Thanks for the help everyone.

 

[Tim]

Compare it to a trip to the gym. On your way sitting in the car, you're not moving your body, you're relaxed, calm and COOL. When you get there, the pysical activity starts... you're working your body out and you start to sweat and get hot.

Idle Temps (the ride to the gym in the car): When you're looking at your screen, and you have a tempature monitor running, but your computer isn't really processing much. It's not doing work, so the CPU is cooler.

Full Load (working out at the gym): You're running a program like a game, or PRIME95 (which was made to stress your CPU out). The CPU is taking in as much data as it can and computing and crunching numbers as fast as it can, meaning it's stressing out and producing heat.

The temps you get when it's working it's hardest will let you know if you're going to ever encounter problems. You'll know from these temps whethor or not you fall into the "safe operating zone" for your particular processor, or if you need to possibly tweak your cooling solutions a bit to solve a high temp problem. With many computer components generally speaking, the lower the temps tend to stay, the longer the possible lifespan of the component. With CPU's, it's a combination of the amount of voltage applied as well as the temps that can relate to a shorter or longer lifespan. Therefore, it's generally a sound thought to make sure you're temps are on the cooler side.

 

[2112Rush]

Thanks for the explanation. What I meant was I don't know what was considered a full load. I thought it meant running a program or something like that. I just didn't know if surfing the web was making it work hard or not. I didn't think it did.

I'm going to get PRIME95 right now and see what happens. I'll also report temps in C as that seems to be the standard.

 

[2112Rush]

Thanks for the explanation. What I meant was I don't know what was considered a full load. I thought it meant running a program or something like that. I just didn't know if surfing the web was making it work hard or not. I didn't think it did.

I'm going to get PRIME95 right now and see what happens. I'll also report temps in C as that seems to be the standard.

 

[2112Rush]

Well, PRIME95 has been running for almost 5 hours. It said it takes 6 to 24. I'm stopping it at 6. Anyway, the temps have been between in the low 30'sC (90'sF) for Cores 0 and 1 and high 20'sC (Low 80's) for Cores 2 and 3. Is that too high? What's the normal range and what is starting to get too hot?

Also it has passed every test so far. I don't know if I get some type of report when it's done but aside from the temps everything seems ok. I think.

 

[aigomorla]

2112, next time use the edit feature to addon your previous topic. Makes things a lot easier when we hit that reply button. No harm done tho, i see your just excited!

Anyhow, Prime95 Make sure its version 25.6 or higher, can load up your quadcore. It automatically threads how many cores you have, so you'll see 4 work threads.

Now, the reason why its so important is because we need to see how hot your chip will get. Given in real life situations, unless you Distribute Computing, or a massive multithreaded game freak, you'll never see those loaded temps on your processor.

But we just want to know where your upper and lower boundries are.

Now when your processor is loaded, it will generate the MAX possible heat. We want to see if your system is running okey where its able to vent all that heat out, or if its stuck inside your case, or you have an inadaquit sink.


Prime95 is also a good stress tool to see if your overclock is stable. I usually load my systems up 7-8 hours. Bedtime, to see if its still running. If you dont see errors, your overclock to my definition rock solid. Others will debate about the time, and others will say prime isnt enough.

But for general purpose, 7-8 hour prime should be good to go.

Anyhow enjoy your machine and have fun!

 

[2112Rush]

Thanks again for the help aigomorla. Sorry about the edit thing. I didn't want to make too big of a post. The version of Prime95 I just got is 24.14. Is there that much of a difference between that and 25.6? I'm guessing because there was only one work thread if I saw it right. There was 6 tests in each self test. I also didn't see the options to change the test time. Mine was set for 24hrs so I just stopped it. Does it need to go the full test or did I get a decent enough reading?

What does the Tj Max Temp of 212F mean?

One other thing. The Easy Tune5 Pro program that came with the MB has a Turbo Boost button. I just realized that the temps were from running at Extreme speed. The default is Turbo. If the temps are were ok at Extreme can I leave it there or is that only needed if I OC?

 

[2112Rush]

Can anyone help?

 

[Tim]

You need to download the latest version of prime95, as it runs a test on each core.

You only need to run it for about 1 hour while monitoring your temps to get a general idea of what the full load temps are. Let us know your results.

 

[2112Rush]

I will get the new version of PRIME95 and get back to you.

Any idea what the Tj Max temp is? 212F seems high.

I just finished running PRIME95 25.6 for over an hour.

Cores 1 & 2 were between 34C and 36C. They went a little above that for a few seconds but not long.

Cores 3 & 4 were 30C and 32C. They too went a little more for a bit.

I did the test with the the "Extreme" button checked on the Performance Enhancement setting on the Easy Tume5 Pro that came with the MB.

The Tj MaX Temp is 100C.

 

[2112Rush]

I take it these are good temps then?

 

[BlueAcolyte]

very.

 

[2112Rush]

Thank You. That's one less thing to worry about.