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random

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Question is...Why the hell is everyone here using a DSL/Cable Router? Routers are meant for WAN/SAN ops and are not to be
toyed with. Are you computers 15000 miles away or somethin? A switch or hub would be the likely choice for home use.


Hub no. Hub is half duplex and only one person can transmit at a time. This kills off your effective bandwidth. Depends on what you want out of your connection. If it's in router mode, you can easily set up NAT in the router. A switch won't let you do that.
 

FrankRizzo

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A router is used to connect two or more networks. Considering that the internet is a vast array of networks (containing countless routers) it's not hard to see that you could also use one at home - although you don't have to. A nice thing about using a router and enabling NAT is that it allows you to share an IP address among many computers and provides added protection from intruders (since your PCs are on a private subnet).

If you could add NAT functionality to an existing telocity modem / router it would make it easier to share internet access without added expense (a hub is cheaper than a router).

Alternatively you could set up a machine with two networks adapters two run NAT to share internet access.

 

alkemyst

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bump...

I hate have things that I bought locking me out.

I was going to write a brute force attack script on the password, but haven't had time.
 

CrimsonKing

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Holy cow. I missed this thread. Telocity IS suck! The mail servers are down all the time. DNS is hosed frequently. Wow. Glad I'm not the only one. And I went to some site to test my speed and it said I had 160 down, 500 up. It never got over 200. I've used other sites with better results, but that's pathetic. and it does get so bogged down when everyone's online. I wish they'd quit selling that "dedicated bandwidth" crap. From what I hear, that's a lie for the cheap prices they sell it.

Anyhow, anyone have any good sites to test their speed from?
 

Ark

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I have password for my white modem - got it from tech long time ago.
But I don't see NAT option there:
Look here
May be my firmware is outdated.
v01.05.01.08 May 2000.
 

Ark

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I loaded configuration few times while ago, never had this option available.
Maybe they changed somthing recently.
sharkbitz, what is a version of your modem and what connection SDSL or ADSL (version based on DSL type).
Mine is SDSL
 

jrofman

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Question is...Why the hell is everyone here using a DSL/Cable Router? Routers are meant for WAN/SAN ops and are not to be
toyed with. Are you computers 15000 miles away or somethin? A switch or hub would be the likely choice for home use.


Also, routers save a lot of computing power in a home network connected to the internet.
 

Ark

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jrofman
DSL service gives you ONE WAN IP address (static or dynamic).
If you have ONE PC only you don't need it.
If you have more than one PC on your LAN you will need NAT (network address translation), so each PC can get WAN access using only one WAN IP address.
This is what HOME DSL router does. It is WAN to LAN device.
Another option pay to your ISP for additional IP addresses.
Plus router gives you hardware firewall.
 

dumars

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If anybody else wants a password to try, mine was cbn7dbg4 ...

What exactly will this accomplish? Right now, I've got 2 NICs in my computer. DSL goes into one. Other one plugs into a hub, and other computers can plug into the hub. Mine is the gateway. If I set this option in the modem, can I plug the modem straight into the uplink of the hub?

Question is, my computer is a mail server, web server, etc. Will this still work if my computer isn't set as the static IP I get from telocity?//
 

geoffct

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it is my impression that if enabled you can set up the routing using the standard access. Thanks dumars for the Pword, I will try it tomorrow.
 

PandaBear

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If you are keeping one of your computer on 24/7 and have mail server setup on it, why do you want to f**k with the telocity gateway, you can run NAT on your computer and use it as a router instead....

or if you have a 486 at home, why not use coyote linux and make a router out of it? You still need a hub if you use the NAT from telocity anyway, might as well add one more computer and use it as a router. 486 are dirt cheap now a days,


www.coyotelinux.com
 

bugsysiegel

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Signed up for Telocity on the 22nd of Feb, got the line to my house from Americrap today. Set up the inside wiring job for 2 weeks from Friday (due to vacation). I'll let you know how it goes.

It's gotta be better then Ameritech's ISDN though. The ISDN line constantly loses connection to the office, requiring me to reload the ISDN adapter (happened with 3 differant adapters!) Ameritech *never* got the dual channels to work in synch with each other, so I was down to 64K per channel right off the bat, plus, the ISDN connect gets me downstream rates the same as using my analog modem! Literally! If I plug the analog modem into the ISDN adapter, I can download from a local ISP at the exact same rate. Why would I try this you ask? Welp, I noticed one day that it took over 90 seconds just to log into the network when dialing up with the ISDN adapter. So just for giggles, I tried with the analog, connect, logged in, bing... surfin'! Same with gaming. ISDN-slow as hell for some reason, analog-much less lag... Americrap's tech support answer-"must be your machine or net traffic or the game servers" sure, course I'm the only one laggin'. Bah.

WTF? Ameritech's 'ace' tech support blows too. Me-"Why does my connection freeze for 30-60 seconds for noreason, then restart, when I can connect using the same computer to the same sites using MSN of all, god-forsaken ISP's?" Americrap- "They must be using a different protocal than us." WHAT? Coulda swore tcp/ip was fairly standard on the net, might be a mistake I learned in college in one of those MCSE courses I took.

Anyway, like most people, I've heard good and bad about Telocity, but no contract to me was a big plus. We'll see, and I'll keep you good folks posted on the status of the whole mess! :)
 

Siamskunk

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Hmmm...they've been down for a couple days now. I can't believe the 56k day could come back to me. Hehehe...lucky me, I didn't take my modem blaster off...but it sure is SLOW as H_ll.

Argh...I want my connection back :|

edit: Oh, btw, I'm in Bay area
 

sharkbitz

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I think telocity went through upgrades. I'm getting better routes, and speeds are significantly higher, almost, if not as good as Bellsouth. I'm in Gainesville, FL
 

alkemyst

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bellsouth is lame here...telocity is a lot better. We should have double my residential telocity speed at the office through bellsouth, but regularly I am getting higher connects. I stream regularly at 155Kps...sometimes 200K at home.

An associate at work has tracked several bad bellsouth routers giving over 20% packet losses. Bellsouth does not reply to his reports of these, except to say the network is not down...he is sending the matter to their upstream now as even though the network is not 'down' its not really 'up' either. We have been getting ~20download/27upload regularly at the office for the last couple weeks, it has been maybe at half speed (~150Kps) only a few days this past month, the rest of the time much lower. We are web developers so when dslreports.com says you have a medium modem connectionwhen we should be at a fast dsl connection it comes out of our pockets.
 

SoundBoy

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NYC SDSL thru Telocity, is pretty damn good. Static IP and 530kbps UPLOAD. The DNS was slow compared to the fast connection, so I put a caching DNS on my router. (dnscache) Some hiccups but no outage was worse than an hour.