Tell me again...why would you vote for Bush over Kerry?

[batchusa]

Hey guys..Long time lurker @ AT, and just recently saw this forum. Being a political junkie, I now check this forum almost everyday!

Nowadays, I really am wondering why would someone pick Bush over Kerry? So, I decided to write down the key reason Bush supporters claim and argue against them....Here are two of them...

Strong Leader on the War Against Terror

Let me think...Before 9/11 Bush spends a bunch of time on vacation and doesn't pay much attention to al Qaeda. Ok, I give you hindsight is 20/20 and he maybe couldn't have stopped 9/11. However, when 9/11 does happen what does our "strong leader" do. Sit frozen for 7 minutes reading a story to kids. Calm under fire or frozen in fear?

Now, supporters will say he held a nation steady. I don't deny that he did. For many, he was a source of support (and for others, he wasn't). But my point is that any number of politicans could have done the same as Bush did. Bush went on TV, said "We will find these terrorists...America is strong and great...We love freedom...They hate freedom...etc, etc". Don't tell me that John Kerry, Al Gore, Bill Clinton, John McCain etc could have not done that (especially in this age of speechwriters & media consultants). If you are voting for Bush solely on this reason, then ask yourself would you vote the same way if any of the above were in office during 9/11?

They also point to the War in Afghanistan as an example of his leadership. Again, everyone knew we were going to attack Afghanistan. It doesn't take a "strong leader" to point to Afghanistan and say "bomb the #$(*# out of them". Also, one of Bush's main objectives before the war was to catch bin Laden. Umm......

Iraq? Don't even go there. Sure we got rid of Saddam. But, how many lies did Bush and his administration tell the American people. We, the people who are funding this war. I think we all can agree that a "strong leader" certainly doesn't tell lies to his constituents to start a war.

Honesty

Leading us into war - a war which has taken the lives of almost one thousand US soliders and thousands of civilians, has cost 200 billion dollars, and has created more terrorists - based on deception. However, he is making the world safer...For Bush is a honourable man.

Keeping the real cost of the faulty Medicare plan away from Congress until after they pass it. "Oh, its just around 100 billion dollars over what we told you." However, he is making medicare affordable to all seniors..For Bush is a honourable man.

Many other immoral acts committed by Bush and his party: Disenfranchising thousands of voters in Florida, leaking a CIA agent's name, lying about the Iraq-9/11 connection...But hey, Bush is a honourable man.


-- I'll write what I feel are the other reasons in another post if this topic receives any interest.

 

[XMan]

My question is, taking Bush out of the equation, what reason is there to vote for Kerry?

I've heard a lot of talk about how he'll do a better job, but no concrete plans. When pressed, he says he doesn't want to tip his hand before being elected. :roll:

 

[Ozoned]

You will fit right in here on this forum. There really is no need for you to understand anything, given where you will fit.

 

[Riprorin]

Why would I vote for someone who's running for office on a distorted account of what he did for 4 months over 40 years ago?

 

[fjord]

Originally posted by: X-Man
My question is, taking Bush out of the equation, what reason is there to vote for Kerry?

I've heard a lot of talk about how he'll do a better job, but no concrete plans. When pressed, he says he doesn't want to tip his hand before being elected. :roll:

If you take Bush out of the equation--you get rid of the problem in our domestic and foreign policies today.

Unfortunately, this next election is essentially a choice between 2 parties.

We only have 2 choices: Either Bush or Kerry.

 

[TheBDB]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why would I vote for someone who's running for office on a distorted account of what he did for 4 months over 40 years ago?

Bwahahaha

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why would I vote for someone who's running for office on a distorted account of what he did for 4 months over 40 years ago?

So you're voting for Nader?

 

[AntiEverything]

Originally posted by: fjord

Originally posted by: X-Man
My question is, taking Bush out of the equation, what reason is there to vote for Kerry?

I've heard a lot of talk about how he'll do a better job, but no concrete plans. When pressed, he says he doesn't want to tip his hand before being elected. :roll:

If you take Bush out of the equation--you get rid of the problem in our domestic and foreign policies today.

It's a bit soon to say Kerry will will remove policy problems. Let's wait until he's had 4 years to botch things up.

I'm quite looking forward to seeing which small defenseless country Kerry attacks, and then how his supporters try to spin it.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

1.) Bush is a strong moderate leader
2.) Bush is less likely to appoint a supreme court justice that'll use his station to intact his view of what "America should be", but rather interpret things as our laws intend.
3.) Bush is more likely to do what is unpopular but best for America
4.) Taxes going up for any group increases the drain of prosperity from all groups.
5.) Bush will fill out the necessary departments for control of terrorism while doing a better job of avoiding "big brotherism"
6.) Bush wants to set us on a path to achieve true greatness through space exploration.
7.) Bush recognizes the problems systemic to the illegal immigrant issue and has a truly visionary solution.
8.) Bush understands the need to bring American style freedom of debauchery to the barbaric nations of the world that are the spawning grounds of terrorism.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
1.) Bush is a strong moderate leader
2.) Bush is less likely to appoint a supreme court justice that?ll use his station to intact his view of what ?America should be?, but rather interpret things as our laws intend.
3.) Bush is more likely to do what is unpopular but best for America
4.) Taxes going up for any group increases the drain of prosperity from all groups.
5.) Bush will fill out the necessary departments for control of terrorism while doing a better job of avoiding ?big brotherism?
6.) Bush wants to set us on a path to achieve true greatness through space exploration.
7.) Bush recognizes the problems systemic to the illegal immigrant issue and has a truly visionary solution.
8.) Bush understands the need to bring American style freedom of debauchery to the barbaric nations of the world that are the spawning grounds of terrorism.

No.. seriously now...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
1.) Bush is a strong moderate leader
2.) Bush is less likely to appoint a supreme court justice that?ll use his station to intact his view of what ?America should be?, but rather interpret things as our laws intend.
3.) Bush is more likely to do what is unpopular but best for America
4.) Taxes going up for any group increases the drain of prosperity from all groups.
5.) Bush will fill out the necessary departments for control of terrorism while doing a better job of avoiding ?big brotherism?
6.) Bush wants to set us on a path to achieve true greatness through space exploration.
7.) Bush recognizes the problems systemic to the illegal immigrant issue and has a truly visionary solution.
8.) Bush understands the need to bring American style freedom of debauchery to the barbaric nations of the world that are the spawning grounds of terrorism.

I am interested about the American style of debauchery Bush wishes to bring to the world. Fill me in!

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why would I vote for someone who's running for office on a distorted account of what he did for 4 months over 40 years ago?

The only one still distorting it are the liars from swiftboatshills.com and people like you Kerry is highly decorated war hero who came back and spoke out. Get over it. You didn't serve in Vietnam and you certainly aren't over in Iraq laying your life down are you. So you are pretty much unqualified to have any idea what did or did not happen on his command.

You support a coward that hid behind his daddy's coattails to avoid active duty in vietnam, that tells us everything we need to know about you and your character or obvious lack-there-of.

:roll:

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: AntiEverything

Originally posted by: fjord

Originally posted by: X-Man
My question is, taking Bush out of the equation, what reason is there to vote for Kerry?

I've heard a lot of talk about how he'll do a better job, but no concrete plans. When pressed, he says he doesn't want to tip his hand before being elected. :roll:

If you take Bush out of the equation--you get rid of the problem in our domestic and foreign policies today.

It's a bit soon to say Kerry will will remove policy problems. Let's wait until he's had 4 years to botch things up.

I'm quite looking forward to seeing which small defenseless country Kerry attacks, and then how his supporters try to spin it.

Sure, that will happen.

 

[MoFunk]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

You support a coward that hid behind his daddy's coattails to avoid active duty in vietnam, that tells us everything we need to know about you and your character or obvious lack-there-of.

:roll:

The democrat poster boy Bill Clinton - avoided the draft through student deferments

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: fjord

Originally posted by: X-Man
My question is, taking Bush out of the equation, what reason is there to vote for Kerry?

I've heard a lot of talk about how he'll do a better job, but no concrete plans. When pressed, he says he doesn't want to tip his hand before being elected. :roll:

If you take Bush out of the equation--you get rid of the problem in our domestic and foreign policies today.

Unfortunately, this next election is essentially a choice between 2 parties.

We only have 2 choices: Either Bush or Kerry.

Right. I would love nothing more than to give the Libertarian Party my vote as an investment in the future, but this will be a binary election, and we need to make sure this monkeyshines doesn't go any further. This makes it a matter of common sense to support Kerry as far as I can see.

 

[TheBDB]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
1.) Bush is a strong moderate leader
2.) Bush is less likely to appoint a supreme court justice that?ll use his station to intact his view of what ?America should be?, but rather interpret things as our laws intend.
3.) Bush is more likely to do what is unpopular but best for America
4.) Taxes going up for any group increases the drain of prosperity from all groups.
5.) Bush will fill out the necessary departments for control of terrorism while doing a better job of avoiding ?big brotherism?
6.) Bush wants to set us on a path to achieve true greatness through space exploration.
7.) Bush recognizes the problems systemic to the illegal immigrant issue and has a truly visionary solution.
8.) Bush understands the need to bring American style freedom of debauchery to the barbaric nations of the world that are the spawning grounds of terrorism.

Admit it....you were LOLing at yourself while you typed that.

 

[wirelessenabled]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why would I vote for someone who's running for office on a distorted account of what he did for 4 months over 40 years ago?

So you will vote for someone who is running on a distorted account of what he did 19 months ago?

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: umbrella39

You support a coward that hid behind his daddy's coattails to avoid active duty in vietnam, that tells us everything we need to know about you and your character or obvious lack-there-of.

:roll:

The democrat poster boy Bill Clinton - avoided the draft through student deferments

Clinton acknowledged last Monday night that he could never hold Kerry's jockstrap. That's why he's out there singing praise about it

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: X-Man
My question is, taking Bush out of the equation, what reason is there to vote for Kerry?

Not much really. I'm sure that people that vote for Bush like Bush more than people that are going to vote for Kerry like Kerry. Hopefully that made sense. I know that I'm most likely going to vote for Kerry and I don't really like him very much.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: umbrella39

You support a coward that hid behind his daddy's coattails to avoid active duty in vietnam, that tells us everything we need to know about you and your character or obvious lack-there-of.

:roll:

The democrat poster boy Bill Clinton - avoided the draft through student deferments

And I will not vote for his in November. :roll:

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: MoFunk

Originally posted by: umbrella39

You support a coward that hid behind his daddy's coattails to avoid active duty in vietnam, that tells us everything we need to know about you and your character or obvious lack-there-of.

:roll:

The democrat poster boy Bill Clinton - avoided the draft through student deferments

I think it's OK if he accepted the Rhodes Scholarship instead of going to Vietnam.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
1.) Bush is a strong moderate leader
2.) Bush is less likely to appoint a supreme court justice that?ll use his station to intact his view of what "America should be", but rather interpret things as our laws intend.
3.) Bush is more likely to do what is unpopular but best for America
4.) Taxes going up for any group increases the drain of prosperity from all groups.
5.) Bush will fill out the necessary departments for control of terrorism while doing a better job of avoiding "big brotherism"
6.) Bush wants to set us on a path to achieve true greatness through space exploration.
7.) Bush recognizes the problems systemic to the illegal immigrant issue and has a truly visionary solution.
8.) Bush understands the need to bring American style freedom of debauchery to the barbaric nations of the world that are the spawning grounds of terrorism.

I am interested about the American style of debauchery Bush wishes to bring to the world. Fill me in!

Hooters, Joe Cammel, McDonalds and Texas Hold'm.

Give the people that and they won't want to bomb us any more.

 

[Painman]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
1.) Bush is a strong moderate leader
2.) Bush is less likely to appoint a supreme court justice that?ll use his station to intact his view of what ?America should be?, but rather interpret things as our laws intend.
3.) Bush is more likely to do what is unpopular but best for America
4.) Taxes going up for any group increases the drain of prosperity from all groups.
5.) Bush will fill out the necessary departments for control of terrorism while doing a better job of avoiding ?big brotherism?
6.) Bush wants to set us on a path to achieve true greatness through space exploration.
7.) Bush recognizes the problems systemic to the illegal immigrant issue and has a truly visionary solution.
8.) Bush understands the need to bring American style freedom of debauchery to the barbaric nations of the world that are the spawning grounds of terrorism.

I am interested about the American style of debauchery Bush wishes to bring to the world. Fill me in!

Hooters, Joe Cammel, McDonalds and Texas Hold'm.

Give the people that and they won't want to bomb us any more.

Is that what Kirk Cameron told you?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
1.) Bush is a strong moderate leader
2.) Bush is less likely to appoint a supreme court justice that'll use his station to intact his view of what "America should be", but rather interpret things as our laws intend.
3.) Bush is more likely to do what is unpopular but best for America
4.) Taxes going up for any group increases the drain of prosperity from all groups.
5.) Bush will fill out the necessary departments for control of terrorism while doing a better job of avoiding "big brotherism"
6.) Bush wants to set us on a path to achieve true greatness through space exploration.
7.) Bush recognizes the problems systemic to the illegal immigrant issue and has a truly visionary solution.
8.) Bush understands the need to bring American style freedom of debauchery to the barbaric nations of the world that are the spawning grounds of terrorism.

I started to type a reply to this...then figured you were joking.

Then I thought, "Wouldn't it be scary if you weren't?"

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
1.) Bush is a strong moderate leader
2.) Bush is less likely to appoint a supreme court justice that'll use his station to intact his view of what "America should be", but rather interpret things as our laws intend.
3.) Bush is more likely to do what is unpopular but best for America
4.) Taxes going up for any group increases the drain of prosperity from all groups.
5.) Bush will fill out the necessary departments for control of terrorism while doing a better job of avoiding "big brotherism"
6.) Bush wants to set us on a path to achieve true greatness through space exploration.
7.) Bush recognizes the problems systemic to the illegal immigrant issue and has a truly visionary solution.
8.) Bush understands the need to bring American style freedom of debauchery to the barbaric nations of the world that are the spawning grounds of terrorism.

I started to type a reply to this...then figured you were joking.

Then I thought, "Wouldn't it be scary if you weren't?"

boo!